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 Google Nexus 4 - V5, >150 proud owners

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post Jan 28 2013, 01:30 PM

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here is my dump file.. could you help me to check it out?

Attached File  BetterBatteryStats_2013_01_28_022040946.txt ( 13.29k ) Number of downloads: 11

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post Jan 28 2013, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jan 28 2013, 10:54 AM)
It is easily done just be using the Nexus 4 toolkit : Just pick what you want and the software does everything automatically
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1995688
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Uncle Benny, need some guidance here. The rooting bug has bitten me but a noob on such things, would appreciate your comments if I got the sequence tight

My situation
- I am already using the phone extensively so I will want to restore my apps and settings over
- I don't intend to flash customs roms and remain stock to get OTA updates

With the toolkit, is this sequence correct,

- option 1, install drivers
- option 2, backup device
- option 8, 1 click unlock, root etc
- option 2, restore backup

Question, where are the backup files located? If it's in the phone, then I will have to move it to PC and then move it back to restore after I root?

Can I or should I relock bootloader after the rootas I read that leaving the bootloader open, may make the phone susceptible to malicious app

Thanks for answering, uncle Benny and everyone else contributing

This post has been edited by kuntakinte: Jan 28 2013, 01:32 PM
orenzai
post Jan 28 2013, 01:39 PM

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Guys, Im getting like 13% of battery drop per hour. I use it only moderately with few phone calls and occasional whatsapp. After installing juicedefender, it was better at about 9-10% an hour drop. Are there any mods/hacks that increase battery life for good? Some of you mentioned that you can get 15-19hours on average use. How do you achieve that?
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post Jan 28 2013, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(Harddisk @ Jan 28 2013, 01:06 PM)
Don't have laser thermometer to measure that.
This is not Tegra 3 la. Since when does "running too much thing" in Android makes the phone heats up?  laugh.gif
Bro, you didn't do enough research. It has been proven by Anandtech that Nexus 4 will "slow down" the processor if the phone is overheating (reason unknown). Hence the lower benchmark scores compared to it's counterpart phones with same spec (LG Optimus G, HTC Droid DNA, etc)

So yes, the lag was indeed caused by the heat. sweat.gif
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i know......but isnt this snapdragon suppose to be > tegra 3? hmm.gif


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post Jan 28 2013, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(Harddisk @ Jan 28 2013, 01:23 PM)
Just normal web surfing using 3G connection after I took a PhotoSphere. Earlier I was having problem with the connection. Showing H but no connection (probably fall into Maxis' network), so I did some stuff like set to Airplane ON/OFF to try to reinitialise the connection, but failed. By doing all these stuff, phone starts to warm up.

So finally I force a reboot and I get back my connection. By that time, phone was quite warm already. So I just go with my usual stuff, G+, FB. Eventually it falls into hotter than "warm" category. That's where the keyboard went lagging on me.

Most of the time when the CPU down clock, the most obvious lag would be the keyboard.
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Not sure what's happening there. But I do know that, whenever I lost connection (data, network), it will automatically warms up.. Working in a plant with a lot of EM interference, sometimes really warms up the pocket. Have to off all data.

Conclusion, I think the warmth is from your network connection. But getting laggy after that, I am clueless. Sifus sifus here have any idea why?
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post Jan 28 2013, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(herojack41 @ Jan 28 2013, 01:39 PM)
i know......but isnt this snapdragon suppose to be > tegra 3?  hmm.gif
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I don't get such lag on my GNex if the device heats up, but that doesn't mean TI OMAP is better than the Snapdragon in Nexus 4.

I didn't get the right term earlier, so I quote:
QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jan 28 2013, 01:30 PM)
Nexus 4 has a thermal throttle set to rather low at just 60 Celsius. So the CPU slow down to prevent overheat. However this is to low. It should be fine even at 75. I suspect that is what other phones are using. Silk check when I am free.
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This is the main reason why the lag appears, because of the sudden lacked of CPU resource for the apps to run.

QUOTE(Kazz123 @ Jan 28 2013, 01:43 PM)
Not sure what's happening there. But I do know that, whenever I lost connection (data, network), it will automatically warms up.. Working in a plant with a lot of EM interference, sometimes really warms up the pocket. Have to off all data.

Conclusion, I think the warmth is from your network connection. But getting laggy after that, I am clueless. Sifus sifus here have any idea why?
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The heat generated from the lacked of signal was a collateral damage. It's accounted into the thermal detector used by the CPU as well. And I believe they are in the same area. So if 3G chip heats up, the CPU follows. It's SoC right? Meaning both CPU and 3G controller supposed to be on the same chip.

So there you go. laugh.gif

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post Jan 28 2013, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(orenzai @ Jan 28 2013, 01:39 PM)
Guys, Im getting like 13% of battery drop per hour. I use it only moderately with few phone calls and occasional whatsapp. After installing juicedefender, it was better at about 9-10% an hour drop. Are there any mods/hacks that increase battery life for good? Some of you mentioned that you can get 15-19hours on average use. How do you achieve that?
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by using internet commander pro. i'm getting twice than that, max battery without charge is 35 hours.

QUOTE(herojack41 @ Jan 28 2013, 01:39 PM)
i know......but isnt this snapdragon suppose to be > tegra 3?  hmm.gif
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yes it is, i've got both and i'd say snapdragon chips are always better than tegra, even the older gens compared to tegra 3

anyway, does anyone know (and can confirm) whether the N4 can be bought at digi using only prepaid? i've heard from my sis that many digi distributors there are accepting prepaid to get the N4, don't need to register any plans, so the price is only RM1499 + the price of the prepaid (RM50???)



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QUOTE(stormlcc @ Jan 28 2013, 01:44 PM)
by using internet commander pro.  i'm getting twice than that, max battery without charge is 35 hours.
yes it is, i've got both and i'd say snapdragon chips are always better than tegra, even the older gens compared to tegra 3
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how about graphics? hmm.gif
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post Jan 28 2013, 01:49 PM

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hi.. i just bought n4 (my first smartphone) last week.. i got it unlocked, rooted, and flashed to CM10.1.
My question is if google release OTA update (eg 4.2.2), should i flash to stock first or flash the new gapps or just accept the update?
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post Jan 28 2013, 01:49 PM

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anyone here encounter the same problem as me on the home screen button? rclxub.gif


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post Jan 28 2013, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(Jaja91 @ Jan 28 2013, 01:10 PM)
user posted image

anyone encounter the same problem as me?
is it defect or ? any solution for this ar sifu?  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

p/s: it doesn't happen all the time but randomly
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im encountering the same situation also.. randomly la.. hopefully its software prob.. only happen to the bottom toolbar.. ><
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post Jan 28 2013, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(herojack41 @ Jan 28 2013, 01:48 PM)
how about graphics? hmm.gif
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the graphics in the tegra 3 is definitely better, but nothing to shout about.
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post Jan 28 2013, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(Harddisk @ Jan 28 2013, 01:44 PM)
I don't get such lag on my GNex if the device heats up, but that doesn't mean TI OMAP is better than the Snapdragon in Nexus 4.

I didn't get the right term earlier, so I quote:

This is the main reason why the lag appears, because of the sudden lacked of CPU resource for the apps to run.
The heat generated from the lacked of signal was a collateral damage. It's accounted into the thermal detector used by the CPU as well. And I believe they are in the same area. So if 3G chip heats up, the CPU follows. It's SoC right? Meaning both CPU and 3G controller supposed to be on the same chip.

So there you go.  laugh.gif
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So the conclusion is, try to have good connection every time to avoid device heating up. Or put it on a cold place, ie in front of aircond to cold it down.

Then I have another question, this constant heating and cooling, dies it affect the glass back? Am really concern with it cracking~~ huhuhu..
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post Jan 28 2013, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(xerox8908 @ Jan 28 2013, 01:13 PM)
Well if you wan to be stubborn as rock ntg i can do .
Its ur parent responsibility , not mine .
No need to argue .
Its normal for person who have single device to act like that also  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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post Jan 28 2013, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(stormlcc @ Jan 28 2013, 01:51 PM)
the graphics in the tegra 3 is definitely better, but nothing to shout about.
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Disagree. Check opengl score. I smoke tegra 3 in nexus 7 by far. Generally adreno 320 lost only to iphone5.

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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Jan 28 2013, 01:28 PM)
Got to agree with this one on bold points. Some of my friend bought the phone and totally have zero knowledge on basic troubleshooting / etc. Couldn't even do a factory reset and just send it to service centre doh.gif
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Well that what sc for. We paid them when they buying the device lol.
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post Jan 28 2013, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(chicky86 @ Jan 28 2013, 01:49 PM)
im encountering the same situation also.. randomly la.. hopefully its software prob.. only happen to the bottom toolbar.. ><
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exactly ! ahaha we're not alone..im hoping the same its the software prob & there's solution for this...running on stock bro?

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post Jan 28 2013, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(Jaja91 @ Jan 28 2013, 02:01 PM)
exactly ! ahaha we're not alone..im hoping the same its the software prob & there's solution for this...running on stock bro?
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yup.. everything stock.. it happen only to the navigation area.. hopefully its just a bug la.. haha..
so far very satisfied with this phone.. just that acc damn hard to find.. ><
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post Jan 28 2013, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(stormlcc @ Jan 28 2013, 01:51 PM)
the graphics in the tegra 3 is definitely better, but nothing to shout about.
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ohmy.gif i tot andreno is better
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post Jan 28 2013, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jan 28 2013, 01:59 PM)
Disagree. Check opengl score. I smoke tegra 3 in nexus 7 by far. Generally adreno 320 lost only to iphone5.
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not every device tegra 3 is same

my O4X tegra 3 > HOX tegra 3

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