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 Peugeot 408 Owners/ Fans Thread, Motion & Emotion

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post Feb 18 2013, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Feb 18 2013, 11:26 AM)
O I C kawe kelante.
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post Feb 18 2013, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Feb 18 2013, 11:29 AM)
Peugeot has overstocked 408.
Higher discounts to clear it.
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O I C same thing like VW polo sedan, huge discount for slow moving models. Make sense!
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post Feb 18 2013, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(darrez @ Feb 18 2013, 11:51 AM)
After doing a lot of research n study, finally i put booking for the Pug 408T white to replace my satria neo cps...already pay the d/p and now waiting for a nice reg number  rclxms.gif

This thread and the old thread really help me in making the decision to pick my new car..i would like to express my gratitude and appreciation to all forumer that contribute in this two thread. I learn a lot from all your post, esp on the experience owning a pug notworthy.gif

I bought the car from the only distributor here in Kota Kinabalu (Angkatan Hebat) and manage to get the old version which is without the aero kit, i dun think i'll pay extra for that kind of bodykit. Hopefully the car is in a good shape and not much problem.

As for suggestion since this group is growing, i hope TS can put more info on the 1st page such as the common problem faced by owner and whether it can be solve or not, place to go to solve the problem, checklist on getting new car  rolleyes.gif , tips/tricks for the car such as as resetting gearbox by turn off the car and step on pedal for 15s, wind up all window using remote etc. and other info that is helpful
take preve thread as examples --> http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2671435.

By doing this hopefully it will attract more ppl and reduce ppl from asking the same questions and can be a guide to ppl before going for service etc..

Again, thanks to all of u and wish me luck for my new car  smile.gif
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I think it is a good suggestion but that would put tremendous responsibility to bro Jfcheong.
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post Feb 18 2013, 12:15 PM

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Hi all mind sharing if u have sensitive handbrake too? Not a complaint just asking if normal
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post Feb 18 2013, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(joeaggas @ Feb 18 2013, 12:55 PM)
Sensitive? Meaning move it a little the (Handbrake) lights come on?
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post Feb 18 2013, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(jfcheong @ Feb 18 2013, 12:57 PM)
Mine is quite sensitive, just maybe a CM the level not fully released, it considered hand brake engaged. But that is not an issue for me, just make sure the level is completely released before start accelerate. Moreover, I consider it is a bonus to protect you car.
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Ok, thanks it is affirmative then. Always helpful our bro Jfcheong. Owe u one.
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QUOTE(jfcheong @ Feb 18 2013, 01:02 PM)
Yes, I experienced that and agree with that. Everytime after I open the boot after car wash, I would need to wipe off the water on the cover quickly before dropped into my boot.
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Agree. Me too.
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post Feb 18 2013, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(jfcheong @ Feb 18 2013, 12:59 PM)
sweat.gif I will take that into consideration, time needed.  tongue.gif
Anyone wanna give me a hand?
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Nasim and Peugeot should really hire u and bro SKYjack. That will make a world of difference in their car sales!

Like to help. I will pm u the compilation of common Q&A may be by end of week. But to all, please help!
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post Feb 18 2013, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Feb 18 2013, 01:31 PM)
Tks bro. Glad to help our bro's who may require additional tech info. of our lovely Pug. You know,it's really scary Peugeot taking a whacking Europe side!
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Yeah 3 days ago Bloomberg reported their banking unit cut to JUNK by standard & pool due to sluggish car sales especially in Europe ( an astounding world wide sales decline of 8.8% despite 9.2% sales increase in china)
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Feb 18 2013, 01:38 PM)
Similar issue with my K5. A design oversight for sure but one that should not have been made. Even the 1st gen Vios didnt have this.  vmad.gif
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Err.... Is that the price we all have to pay for having a big booty---a wet prone booty?
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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Feb 18 2013, 01:46 PM)
Yup it is a design flaw.
It happens on my Citroen too.
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Hmmm.... Citroen too, Aiyo!
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post Feb 18 2013, 01:53 PM

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No wonder the European prefer sports
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QUOTE(darrez @ Feb 18 2013, 02:01 PM)
Tonite after work, i'll try my best to compile everything that relevant from previous thread into 1 post then maybe ts can just copy to the 1st page. U guys rock  thumbup.gif
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HEY YOU ROCK 2! No hurry bro , take time it is an enormous task
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post Feb 18 2013, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(joeaggas @ Feb 18 2013, 02:06 PM)
Remember this commercial released over 10 years ago? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50A9wjJ40Dk

The boot experience gives me the kind of indian nod look in this commercial.
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Hahaha u r funny.
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post Feb 18 2013, 05:11 PM

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Hi all, in case u r curious how VW jetta maint cost looks like here is one I borrow from brother kensomuse. A bit dated since it was created circa May 2012.

Bear in mind Jetta service interval is 15k km or 1 year whichever earlier. Please share thoughts to discuss how cost compares, again good or bad, both welcomed


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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Feb 18 2013, 05:29 PM)
Well, it's definitely more expensive than the typical Japanese sedan for sure. Many owners were offered free servicing for the 1st 2 services as well as part of their package. The family has got a VW Polo Tsi that took this deal. I was also offered the same for the Passat but I declined and took another 1k+ off instead from the list price. I've to sit down to work out the math, because they go on a 15,000km service interval instead of a 10,000km service interval so you have a difference of 5000km there which can explain the pricing.

Also, I'm not sure if this is the right way to do it, but if you divided 10,000km by range RM326 to RM336 for the turbo variant and 15000km by RM475.60, you can actually work out the cost of servicing per km. And both marque look like they are about the same, give and take a few ringgit. Also it's kind of hard to directly compare the 30,000km servicing with the Peugeot interval because it's essentially 1/1/2 servicing for VW whereas Peugeot owners would have done the 20,000km mark.

From the looks of things, i think both marques are on par with each other, could be that VW is a little more expensive if I were to guesstimate. The engine oil pricing looks about right, it will range around RM250 to RM280. The labor also looks about on par with what they tried to charge you when you sent in your P408NA for servicing. The windscreen cleaner is optional I think. Everything else actually looks kind of about the price that I'd expect to pay.
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Err... Read harder?

408Turbo

http://www.kensomuse.com/wp-content/upload...servicing-1.pdf

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Compare to VW Jetta


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post Feb 19 2013, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Feb 19 2013, 02:19 AM)
True story: Someone (other forum) actually told me that turbo engines should be compared to turbo engine cars whereas NA engines should be compared against NA engines to be fair.

So with that in mind, the tsi engine should be compared to the THP engine whereas the only comparison for the PUG 408NA is against the Polo Sedan, which isn't fair either...

Current thoughts are the NA 2.0 variant servicing price is actually a little on the high side if you compare against Japanese marques for regular intervals, even though the EW10A+ engine uses 1L more engine oil. I think their charges for engine oil is slightly on the high side. Oddly enough, VW is guilty of doing the same as well. To the best of my knowledge, Honda actually charges a lot less per liter for their fully synthetic engine oil. Even Toyota which I have been with them for the past 4 years don't charge a lot for fully synthetic engine oil. Perhaps their higher volume plays a role in the lower engine oil prices.On the plus side, the 408 2.0 40,000km service cost less compared to the Japanese marque. A lot less actually if those prices are accurate. Then coming to 60,000km, it is more or less on par with T&H C-segment cars.

Edit: But as you have personally serviced your car at 10,000km. It actually doesn't cost as much as the listed price as in your attachment for the 2.0. It only cost more if they didn't waive the labor charges. In fact, at RM300.6 was it? It is only roughly RM50 more expensive than a regular Honda Civic (latest gen) service at 10,000km according to the service guide listed by Honda. The only problem is, all the owners I know actually only get charged around RM180+ instead. That's why those pricing is only good as a guide. The prices you submit as an owner is more accurate and we can actually see if there are any pricing discrepancies between different service centers.

Edit 2: If I were to compare the Jetta with the 408 THP, then on paper I'd say the Jetta cost more during the regular service intervals where the 408 major servicing at 60,000 is unbelievably expensive compared to the 60,000km Jetta service. But I'd actually have to start crunching some numbers to know for sure if they are actually on par with each other or is one more slightly more or much more expensive. I'll probably do that a little later in the week.
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The bolded part is the one that looks scary, it come again on 120k km service interval. the italic part is what i suspect too. The specified L needed is 4.25 L yet everytime purchase and paid for 5L, what a waste. Think I will ask next time where does the extra 0.75 L goes to, and can we save it for next service. vmad.gif

But I still find it hard to believe RM180++ /10k km only for new Honda Civic. My Honda experience so far (my Mrs. car) is they always charged higher than indicated in schedule, and higher than 180++ at 5k km interval (older version of Honda), so 180++ at 10k km is really AMAZING if true. shocking.gif
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QUOTE(EP6CDTM @ Feb 19 2013, 01:44 PM)
possible if you pour in mineral engine oil and run it for 10000kms

anything fully synthetic will cost RM250 onwards nowadays
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That is right. I think if our fren mr Z looks a bit deeper, new Honda Civic 1.8/2.0 actually charged RM310. per 10k service, see below, source: Honda.com.my

x1,000 km** 1 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100
Month** 1 6 12 18 24 30 36 42 48 54 60
Labour* (RM) 24.80* 127.47* 128.15 127.47* 138.49 127.47* 141.93 127.47* 159.16 127.47* 169.49
Parts (RM) Nil 115.90 258.76 208.08 298.40 115.90 451.77 115.90 805.68 208.08 943.83
Total Cost (RM) 24.80 243.37 386.91 335.55 436.89 243.37 593.70 243.37 964.84 335.55 1,113.32

Hourly labour rate – RM65
*Free labour at 1,000km, 10,000km, 30,000km, 50,000km, 70,000km and 90,000km
*Inclusive of 6% Govt.Tax
**Kilometres or time in months whichever comes first.

Note:
1. We recommend to use genuine HONDA Fully Synthetic Engine Oil (SM0W-20) for optimum performance and better fuel consumption.
2. We recommend refilling with genuine Honda Long Life Antifreeze/Coolant Type 2. Using non-Honda genuine coolant may result in corrosion, causing the cooling system to malfunction or fail.
3. We recommend refilling with genuine Honda Brake Fluid (DOT 3 or DOT 4). Using non-Honda genuine brake fluid may result in corrosion and decrease the life of the system.
4. Prices quoted are for genuine HONDA Mineral Oil & Economical Coolant (Type 1).
Preventive Maintenance Rates & Costs have been revised as of May 2012. All effort has been taken to ensure that the information is accurate and up-to-date. However, prices are subject to change as and when necessary without prior update, and parts or services not covered in this guide are subject to additional charges.

So 115.90 , 386.91 , 208.08, 436.89, 115.90, 593.70 first 60 km total 1,857.38 which is approx. 309.56 per 10k service
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Feb 19 2013, 04:53 PM)
Naza Kia allows you to save that extra engine oil and use it for the following service. But depends on which SC u go to. Either way, knowing the Service Manager is always good.  brows.gif
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Good to know. I will ask next service!
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Feb 19 2013, 04:11 PM)
Haiya, I got bill to look at of coz I know those people who just serviced their car is using 5w40 fully synthetic oil what. On top of that, owners have been given a rm40 discount voucher as well. I also got one for the 1st service for answering a questionaire they send us. The 2nd service for 20,000km may cost rm250 or so, maybe even rm300. Once some of the owners have their 2nd service, I'll get their bill and we can compare notes again.
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K. Fair enough but that also means u have to wait for folks like me to reach 20k ... So wait ya. And wait for me to oso apply for vouchers ya since coupon, voucher pun Sudah ada jadi pasal n buat kacau

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