Fellow muslim friends..

Husky, the Siberian dog, can kept as pets?

Breed matters meh?

keyword : DOG

wai no? vroom vroom

any dog is still a dog man. Dog also wanna discriminate ah?

This post has been edited by vans1088: Jan 25 2013, 09:28 AM

No .................. muslim mana boleh bela anjing??

can if u name your cat 'Husky' or 'Siberian dog'

you want a dog, get one and care for it. fuk what some ancient book says.

actually Muslim can bela dogs. Touch also can. But have to clean after that.

No such thing as cannot bela anjing.

wai you want to discriminate against dogs? just because a book tells you so?

What kind of question is this? <facepalm>

jangan bodoh plz, muslim CAN have dog

u can have dog just u need air samak to clean urself

so, when they clean, just flush with air paip aja ka? or kena apply something?

Yes you can.

bela anjing sebagai binatang peliharaan - no
bela anjing untuk jaga ternakan/kebun - yes.

I'm sure they can... just like having this..

u can breed wolf if u want ..but please cabut all gigi ..owai

can cabut gigi kucing? They got taring.

No problem to have dog as pet in Islam. just need to stay clean.

http://islam.stackexchange.com/questions/1...llowed-in-islam

http://islam.stackexchange.com/questions/4...-haram-in-islam

husky not good for malaysian climate... their hair will drop down

BOLEHH. KO TAK BACA BUKU KAHH? ..... KENA CUCI SELEPAS SENTUHAN JE!

org islam yang brsembahyg x boleh bela anjing lah.. malaikat x masuk rumah yang ada anjing sebagai peliharaan.. so kalau dah malaikat x masuk rumah jadi segala pahala yang dah d buat kat dlm rumah tuk malaikat xdapat bawa kira..

Isn't samak filthier than just washing with soap?

sometimes i feel like slap the person who make this statement (no offence)

no other way o go in meh!!!!

is ok, husky = wolf, nt dog

lol.... what kind of logic is this

Can bela as guard dog, but as pet kept inside the house...not allowed.

Of course can. If can already rasuah, sure can breed dog.

actually why these animal consider no good in islam? like dog, pig....
i got asked my fren b4 but all giv answer gila gila xDD
btw, remember got news a malay man love dog & keep alot dog

this

i heard need guna tanah liat to wash from my muslim frds

only husky? how about other breed? pls dont discriminate leh

kesian.. bela anjing pun kena tanya..

Tanya tak sesat jalan. No harm asking question. If you think this is stupid question, see how people answer it.. still unclear.

Thanks all for the input and for those who provide the link.. its really useful. Thank you.

This post has been edited by say_xtr: Jan 25 2013, 10:50 AM

wait...is the same thing applies if you want to do bad thing the house??no malaikat want to jot down your sin??

can bela..no problem....nowadays can find sabun samak easily

muslim can jaga anjing for guarding purpose only
other than that kenot
i think got saying like this
"if u jaga anjing, bit of iman berkurangan" or something like that.

sorry.. i will pass this answers to someone who more knowledgeable about this.. me myself r not qualify to answer this..

a dog is still a dog

make sure no common sense is used for your judgement, ts. i wish you luck.

can if you are blind

hope u know that im mocking the questioner. it is not the harm , but the confusion that cause the question to be asked . but of course im speaking this from another perception. it might be a informative discussion among another group, high five to that. but pls dun be alarmed, given the fact that this is kopitiam, i would just want to leash out my horse once a while to neigh.

muslim pipol can pet any dog, as long as keep them outside house, keep the yard clean. For those who say muslim hates dog, discriminate dog, you should read more, dont choose to become ignorant just because you hate Islam

police oso rear so many guard dogs ma. train them, bath them, feed them and take care of them.

armies also do the same.

yes for sure. just get random input from here.

trust me, in the end i still know where to get the right answer. TQ

Muslim mazhab Maliki can rear dogs one of 4 schools of Islam..they don't regard dogs as najis

Can they intra-convert?



One of the best Rottie breeder in malaysia is him, a muslim malay.
http://www.juara-rott.com.my/gallery.html

if i am u, i will say this is a siberian cat campur with a dog, so yes, technically its a cat. hahaahaha

Dun keep dog, keep cats.

Cat cheaper to feed, easier to clean, and you dont have to wash 7 times after touching.

And Prophet Muhammad loved cats.

Nope, dirt cleans more effectively, proven by people who experienced it themselves in the wild.

"Of considerable interest is the fact that washing with dirt is actually highly effective in getting rid of other stuff, such as (in this instance) gasoline. After two good scoop-and-scrubs, hardly any odor could be detected when sniffing the offending hand"

source : http://ghost32.hubpages.com/hub/Washing-In-Dirt, http://camp.wonderhowto.com/how-to/clean-y...camping-363199/

Threads or posts pertaining to racial, religious, political or sexual issues are strictly prohibited in Kopitiam, Serious Kopitiam and its subforums.

OK Boss.. woi enuf enuf.. dunno this can lead to religious issue..

I believe TS watched this movie:



god damn good movie yo! but I still like red dog movie better hehehe...

ps: got whole movie in youtube

give me your email TS i will email you the issue regarding dog. It's a good read for a muslim.

p/s: whoever want to know also can pm me your email. to those who think dog are "haram" in Islam.

This post has been edited by Xerxethable: Jan 25 2013, 11:35 AM

husky is wolf la, not dog

why part of husky looked like a dog?

You do know that parasites like ringworms, E.coli and toxoplasmic bacteria and a crap load of other stuffs live in dirt, don't you?

Your link shows an alternative to washing in the absence of water, not soil as a better cleansing agent!

Nope, soil is a better cleansing agent. Why don't you try it yourself? Rub some engine oil on your hand, make sure it's greasy enough, compare it with using water+soap or dirt+water.

For example, this article which explains the "samak" technique, though the application of it is different.

http://voices.yahoo.com/clean-hands-tools-...rt-6685860.html

I'm not gonna dig for more source which i'm sure you can search it yourself.


About parasites in dirts, i'm not gonna elaborate on that since you mentioned E.coli, it's not like you take soils from a place where people or animal defecate, people are smarter than that lol.

Boleh

idiots that didnt relly know bout islam but straitght away said cannot

jimmies will be rustled. I remember there was a case of a malay girl holding a baby pig and a malay guy rearing dogs. butthurts were imminent.

you'll have easier time keeping a hunky as pet.

This post has been edited by LamboSama: Jan 25 2013, 01:07 PM

nice explanation

good effort bro..im with you

got something to do with earth and repetition of 7 times or something like that

this is gonna be funneh

anjeeeeeeeeng

please dont eat every single food that comes and grows on the ground.including animals and crops.coz i afraid they contaminated with e.coli as you mentioned..thanks

Read please~~
http://s3molina.wordpress.com/2008/04/08/a...ah-untuk-samak/

even chinese touch dog also wash hand...

Yes muslim can bela ayam for safety or their jaga their kebun, rumah, tanah, for hunting, but not as pet.

boleh tapi ts kena cuci after holding em

like what others have said. for specific use like hunting sure can but no as pets.t

I STILL do not see that article say washing with soil is better than washing with soap. Show me ONE article, just ONE that says using dirt to wash your hands is BETTER THAN USING SOAP. Believe you me, I've tried "soil better than soap", "dirt better than soap" and "clay better than soap", and the results are a BIG FAT ZERO.

After all, the whole purpose of samak is to clean your the germs off your hands, right?
This is called solipsism, you only see things you want to see. That article says mud harnessed to fight infectsion. First of all, you don't even know what kind of mud they are referring to or its application. Secondly... dog saliva is NOT an infection. That's using the wrong tool to do the wrong job. Why not I help u samak your hands with a sand blaster and see how sparkly clean your hands will be.


See, this is what is wrong with Islam, it's a non-progressive religion. The practitioners will rather stick to old obsolete beliefs rather than use their own brains to think logically.

its not period "NO".. for muslim, its troublesome to samak everytime we touch the dog.. if u hav the time and effort to samak, u can keep a dog to watch your house.. but again, its not a pet like cats.. u can keep it should you had a valid reason

lolz anyone can take care of dog,just follow the islam rule.

samak isn't troublesome, unless you call washing your hands with soap troublesome samak is EXACTLY like washing soap. it's not like dabbing your hands into the dirty ground. we (and science also proves) that clean sand/dirt is the most effective common bacterial removal agent, much better than any soap and cheap too (almost free).


for muslims, there are only ONE breed of dog that can be considered, which is a special breed of hunting dog. One of the rarely known reasons is that muslims, at least those in old eras, view dogs not as a pet, but as a companion - for hunting, protection, etc.



It's a Saluki. just google it, retyping it won't serve any use. But if you've ever watched Hachiko the movie before, it's like that special bond lah between muslims and Saluki for thousands of years already. Some sects, like the Bedouins, regard the saluki as clean (can put in house, sleep together, etc). but only because of their lifestyle that it is clean.


not to say that you cannot bela a Husky lah. I used to take care of a German Shepherd before, outside of the house. samak wasn't a problem at all..... it's just like washing your hands, really. just that in my opinion if you bela because its cute ke, cantik ke, etc, that's not a normal consideration for muslims to own a companion dog as we don't see them as pets. but up to you ler.

This post has been edited by C-Fu: Jan 25 2013, 03:12 PM

of course you can have a husky,just move to alaska.

I'm sorry if you deemed Islam as a non-progressive religion, i assure you every religion have their own ways of making others rejected their belief. For example judaism and rabbi suckle on penis and hinduism belief on cow feces miracle yet you don't see me questioning their motives do you?


If they believe that it could do more good than harm, so be it. For example, there's this one guy who believed that hemotoxin from snakes could cure cancer, he's been injecting himself with snakes venom for 20 years and still ongoing. Why does the conventional logic on toxin does not apply to this case?

like you said, solipsism.

I'm not a Jew nor am I a Hindu, and I find those practices (if true) are equally outdated. But if you're willing to show that such practices are mainstream, I'll be more than happy to call their religion non-progressive on your behalf.

I noticed you dodged the issue though... that is, isn't the whole purpose of samak to disinfect oneself? If yes, why is using dirt superior to using soap? If no, then no need answer, because then I will know it's no doubt for the same reason why "rabbi suckle on penis".

Prove please. I'm sure if it's true there must be surgeons using sand and dirt to clean clean their hands before going into the operating theater.

No such thing as cannot lar, you can play you can touch.. later just need to wash. Alot of people just too lazy to wash so simplified it as cannot.

but eat of course haram lah.

Oh wow. Many people give correct answer for this, but still continue discussing?

using poop to clean ur hand?

soil is indeed cleansing agen cos its veri fine hydrated molecular chain (alumina kaolinite talc ........) with apanama kovalent bond which make them pasticine like & easily shape yet break unlike polimer thingy liat
cleaning need fine molecule with disporposionate charging head it do find in soap & soil/clay as well
the bestest clay is the apanama ben....punya o forgot but it effective in deal with oil & not chemicaly irritating like some soap & no buih oso
soil is natural , soap is artificial, which one better depend aplicasion nya

arrr Bentonite arrrr

If dog and pig is haram, Why the hell Allah make them ???????

Then again, Allah rather spread deadly sickness to humans instead of this HARAM animals.

Its logical that Human is more Haram than animals.

No lah, don't troll like that. Even though I'm against the practice of samak, I will not say things like this.

That's like asking why god created dodo birds. Important thing is that it's here, and we deal with the problem properly.

COMMON BACTERIAL REMOVAL AGENT. i don't think you understand what I wrote.

i want my future husband to be my dog

Susahnye syarat~

senang je.

he meant dia nak batang kecik.

HAAHHAHA!

hahahaha ....
berminat ke? dont worry ..
i'll will cuddle u and treat u well

lol batang anjing like husky is waaay bigger and longer thn urs...thats for sure

pape la achik, i rather not think about dog's d*** size. i don't even think my gay friends think about that everytime we hang out. ko suke batang anjing ko punye hal la bro/babe.


anyway bentonite and calcium-based minerals are used quite often as a cleansing agent. like here a water storage was accidentally treated to be clear gila babi, just because it's in a batu kapur mountain lombong.



This post has been edited by C-Fu: Jan 25 2013, 05:31 PM

Common bacteria and germs inducing agent got la. You have no idea how many kinds of intestinal parasites live in soil lah. Why do you think Muslim majority countries have so many cases of dysentery and cholera?

In fact, when U.S. soldiers go to the middle east, they get some sort of infection, and when they check, almost 100% of workers there have some form of parasitic infestation.

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2...3000299?LI=true

Even the CDC agrees that ALL refugees from the middle east be treated for intestinal infections.

http://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/...s-overseas.html