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amanstiva
post Jan 25 2013, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 25 2013, 09:44 AM)
Isn't samak filthier than just washing with soap?
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Nope, dirt cleans more effectively, proven by people who experienced it themselves in the wild.

"Of considerable interest is the fact that washing with dirt is actually highly effective in getting rid of other stuff, such as (in this instance) gasoline. After two good scoop-and-scrubs, hardly any odor could be detected when sniffing the offending hand"

source : http://ghost32.hubpages.com/hub/Washing-In-Dirt, http://camp.wonderhowto.com/how-to/clean-y...camping-363199/
amanstiva
post Jan 25 2013, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 25 2013, 11:45 AM)
You do know that parasites like ringworms, E.coli and toxoplasmic bacteria and a crap load of other stuffs live in dirt, don't you?

Your link shows an alternative to washing in the absence of water, not soil as a better cleansing agent! doh.gif
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Nope, soil is a better cleansing agent. Why don't you try it yourself? Rub some engine oil on your hand, make sure it's greasy enough, compare it with using water+soap or dirt+water.

For example, this article which explains the "samak" technique, though the application of it is different.

http://voices.yahoo.com/clean-hands-tools-...rt-6685860.html

I'm not gonna dig for more source which i'm sure you can search it yourself.


About parasites in dirts, i'm not gonna elaborate on that since you mentioned E.coli, it's not like you take soils from a place where people or animal defecate, people are smarter than that lol.
amanstiva
post Jan 25 2013, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 25 2013, 02:55 PM)
I STILL do not see that article say washing with soil is better than washing with soap. Show me ONE article, just ONE that says using dirt to wash your hands is BETTER THAN USING SOAP. Believe you me, I've tried "soil better than soap", "dirt better than soap" and "clay better than soap", and the results are a BIG FAT ZERO.

After all, the whole purpose of samak is to clean your the germs off your hands, right?

This is called solipsism, you only see things you want to see. That article says mud harnessed to fight infectsion. First of all, you don't even know what kind of mud they are referring to or its application. Secondly... dog saliva is NOT an infection. That's using the wrong tool to do the wrong job. Why not I help u samak your hands with a sand blaster and see how sparkly clean your hands will be.
See, this is what is wrong with Islam, it's a non-progressive religion. The practitioners will rather stick to old obsolete beliefs rather than use their own brains to think logically.
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I'm sorry if you deemed Islam as a non-progressive religion, i assure you every religion have their own ways of making others rejected their belief. For example judaism and rabbi suckle on penis and hinduism belief on cow feces miracle yet you don't see me questioning their motives do you?


If they believe that it could do more good than harm, so be it. For example, there's this one guy who believed that hemotoxin from snakes could cure cancer, he's been injecting himself with snakes venom for 20 years and still ongoing. Why does the conventional logic on toxin does not apply to this case?

like you said, solipsism.

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