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SUSPink Spider
post Apr 22 2013, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Apr 22 2013, 09:31 PM)
You behave like a big shark  laugh.gif
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Unker gark is the biggest shark of all blush.gif
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post Apr 22 2013, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Apr 22 2013, 09:31 PM)
You behave like a big shark  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 22 2013, 12:48 PM)
For me, there are two ways to count dividend yield.

1. Yield on price
2. Yield on cost

If the yield on price is no longer attractive, i will see the overall business/growth if it is still doing rather well, AND my yield on cost is still good. Why sell?  laugh.gif

Otherwise yield on price is no good, business is declining & not doing well, then i will consider to let go EVEN with good yield on cost.

If yield on price is still attractive, and business/growth doing well, i will add more.  whistling.gif

If sometimes a company reduce/cut dividend and my yield on cost is no longer attractive, then i will sell

Well that is my 2 sen, others may have different perspective. wink.gif
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I add my 2 sen...

Let's say I own reit A. It's yield on price is just 5%. OTOH, reit B's yield on price is 7%. (Let's ignore other factors in this simple example.) I may sell reit A and use the proceed to buy reit B.
But if I can't find that reit B with good yield, there is no point selling reit A and keep the money in FD.
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post Apr 23 2013, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 22 2013, 12:00 PM)
Dear Venerable Sir Dividend Warrior notworthy.gif

What if the dividend stock that u bought rallied to the point that the yield is no longer attractive? Would u sell to take profit?
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No. I will not sell just before the price went up alot.

In fact, quite the opposite. I want to keep the stock even more! biggrin.gif

The management must be doing a good job, that's why the price goes up.

I can enjoy the dividends at the same time. icon_idea.gif
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post Apr 23 2013, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(marketstore @ Apr 22 2013, 09:18 PM)
i baru L ma....maybe in few months can graduate to  P tongue.gif  wish.gif
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Dun worry.

When I first started 3 years ago, I also asked many silly and basic questions......hahahahaha!!! rclxub.gif doh.gif

Time really flies.......
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post Apr 23 2013, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 22 2013, 12:48 PM)
For me, there are two ways to count dividend yield.

1. Yield on price
2. Yield on cost

If the yield on price is no longer attractive, i will see the overall business/growth if it is still doing rather well, AND my yield on cost is still good. Why sell?  laugh.gif

Otherwise yield on price is no good, business is declining & not doing well, then i will consider to let go EVEN with good yield on cost.

If yield on price is still attractive, and business/growth doing well, i will add more.  whistling.gif

If sometimes a company reduce/cut dividend and my yield on cost is no longer attractive, then i will sell

Well that is my 2 sen, others may have different perspective. wink.gif
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mine to elaborate how you calculate yield on price and yield on cost..sorry newbie here.... icon_question.gif


i understand now that to get passive income from dividend..i need to keep it for long term......do people do DCA on dividend stock?


i will be investing post GE although i know it wont make much difference as it is for long term....from the few stocks i saw....... i decided on this strategy...can any sifu comment...

i just want a dividend better than FD rate around 4-6%
so i ll buy stocks which has good dividend history for many years which has been giving at least 4 % dividend per year. then i ll choose from these based on the upwards movement of the stock price..ie graph inclining not declining for the past 3-5 years.....to further consolidate i ll choose stocks which has potential to reach higher ground based on their investment and news headlines...

apa macam my plan sifu??
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post Apr 24 2013, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(marketstore @ Apr 23 2013, 08:04 PM)
mine to elaborate how you calculate yield on price and yield on cost..sorry newbie here.... icon_question.gif
i understand now that to get passive income from dividend..i need to keep it for long term......do people do DCA on dividend stock?
i will be investing post GE although i know it wont make much difference as it is for long term....from the few stocks i saw....... i decided on this strategy...can any sifu comment...

i just want a dividend better than FD rate around 4-6%
so i ll buy stocks which has good dividend history for many years which has been giving at least 4 % dividend per year. then i ll choose from these based on the upwards movement of the stock price..ie graph inclining not declining for the past 3-5 years.....to further consolidate i ll choose stocks which has potential to reach higher ground based on their investment and news headlines...

apa macam my plan sifu??
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total dividend/current share price = yield on price
total dividend/cost price bought = yield on cost

Yes there are people dca on dividend stocks, but mostly prefer to buy on dips.

Investing post/pre GE does not matter, what matter is the yield acceptable for you

for higher dividend you need to search out lower ranked stocks, blue chips have very less dividend nowadays

You cannot count 4% per year historically as you have no basis to count as the share price will fluctuate. You have to count at current yield. Then you choose those who has maintained or raised dividend over the years.

Looking at past graph is useless in stock investing. You need to look into the future and gauge if the business will be improving. Investing based on headlines and rumors is another surefire way to end up with the wrong stocks, especially you are into dividend investing and not capital gain.

Since you are so 'green' come back later when you have read some of the following books :-

'The intelligent Investor' by Benjamin Graham.
'One up on wall street' by Peter Lynch
'The little book of investment' by Joey Greenblatt

Otherwise you have zero knowledge and will end up with disappointing results. Investing is not easy, it takes a lot of hard work. So work on it. If you are not even willing to invest 'time' in reading further.. perhaps stock investing is not your cup of tea.

This post has been edited by gark: Apr 24 2013, 05:03 PM
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post Apr 24 2013, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 24 2013, 05:01 PM)
total dividend/current share price = yield on price
total dividend/cost price bought = yield on cost

Yes there are people dca on dividend stocks, but mostly prefer to buy on dips.

Investing post/pre GE does not matter, what matter is the yield acceptable for you

for higher dividend you need to search out lower ranked stocks, blue chips have very less dividend nowadays

You cannot count 4% per year historically as you have no basis to count as the share price will fluctuate. You have to count at current yield. Then you choose those who has maintained or raised dividend over the years.

Looking at past graph is useless in stock investing. You need to look into the future and gauge if the business will be improving. Investing based on headlines and rumors is another surefire way to end up with the wrong stocks, especially you are into dividend investing and not capital gain.

Since you are so 'green' come back later when you have read some of the following books :-

'The intelligent Investor' by Benjamin Graham.
'One up on wall street' by Peter Lynch
'The little book of investment' by Joey Greenblatt

Otherwise you have zero knowledge and will end up with disappointing results. Investing is not easy, it takes a lot of hard work. So work on it. If you are not even willing to invest 'time' in reading further.. perhaps stock investing is not your cup of tea.
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Unker, I only invest based on my ACCA textbook finance knowledge sweat.gif
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post Apr 24 2013, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 24 2013, 05:18 PM)
Unker, I only invest based on my ACCA textbook finance knowledge sweat.gif
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Got ACCA and 3 yrs experience = Chartered Accountant, rite?
Why u mentioned accountant which don't hv license ? I guess u r a student?
Similar to CPA, MIA ..etc.

This post has been edited by netmask8: Apr 24 2013, 05:36 PM
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post Apr 24 2013, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(netmask8 @ Apr 24 2013, 05:35 PM)
Got ACCA and 3 yrs experience = Chartered Accountant, rite? 
Why u mentioned accountant which don't hv license ? I guess u r a student?
Similar to CPA, MIA ..etc.
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7 years experience already. I lazy to fill up the forms to submit to ACCA, not important to me since I'm not working in audit/tax firm. Hence "unlicensed" laugh.gif

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post Apr 24 2013, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 24 2013, 05:18 PM)
Unker, I only invest based on my ACCA textbook finance knowledge sweat.gif
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ACCA texttbook teach stock investing meh? hmm.gif
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post Apr 24 2013, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 24 2013, 05:40 PM)
7 years experience already. I lazy to fill up the forms to submit to ACCA, not important to me since I'm not working in audit/tax firm. Hence "unlicensed" laugh.gif
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'license' can get more gaji than 'unlicensed'.. cepat2 go get your 'pangkat', then threaten your boss... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 24 2013, 05:45 PM)
ACCA texttbook teach stock investing meh?  hmm.gif
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Basic finance concepts lo...concept of stock, dividend, cost of capital, IRR, ROI, investment analysis bla bla bla...

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post Apr 24 2013, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 24 2013, 05:46 PM)
'license' can get more gaji than 'unlicensed'.. cepat2 go get your 'pangkat', then threaten your boss...  tongue.gif
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now my pangkat oredy naik sampai tak boleh naik lagi...unless my boss resign laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Dividend Warrior @ Apr 8 2013, 09:02 PM)
April Update.  biggrin.gif

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My July update. biggrin.gif

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post Aug 3 2013, 11:43 AM

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blue chip stock - united plantation drop from RM28.5 to RM25.94 (drop by around 9%). the dividend yield has increased to 4.63%. But revenue drop lower than 2011 which highest price is RM21.

time to average or wait it drop to 2011 price?
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 24 2013, 06:50 PM)
now my pangkat oredy naik sampai tak boleh naik lagi...unless my boss resign laugh.gif
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means time to change company lor tongue.gif
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QUOTE(thenightcrusader @ Aug 3 2013, 04:04 PM)
means time to change company lor  tongue.gif
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you reply with the post which has post 4 months ago
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Dividend Warrior, wanna ask if stock is good to keep for dividend in long term? or it is purely hold and sell game? hmm.gif newbie here blush.gif

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QUOTE(nightzstar @ Aug 5 2013, 01:33 PM)
Dividend Warrior, wanna ask if stock is good to keep for dividend in long term? or it is purely hold and sell game?  hmm.gif newbie here  blush.gif
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if u looking for capital appreciation then its a hold and sell game lo biggrin.gif but the dividend yield will be lower when the price of that stock go higher. so in the end u gain dividend + capital appreciation.

my dividend stocks (mainly reits) are on dividend + capital appreciation, except amfirst which is not giving capital appreciation, but consistent 6+% dividend. Still better than FD laugh.gif

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