It was like this:


Need to fix these:








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Don't buy GaGa. Everyday need to fix. If not fix this, must be fix that



This post has been edited by davidke20: Jan 19 2013, 12:19 AM

Why not?

Dugong also got on other SEA country.

China also got dugong

USA also got dugong called Toyota Yaris Sedan/Toyota Belta

This post has been edited by lcy851031: Jan 19 2013, 08:48 AM

@davidke20 how much was it for all the bars? I'm looking at anti roll and also sturt for my Kimchi.

@lcy851031 Don't get confuse. Belta is the real JDM and only the 2nd generation Yaris is available in US.. and it's only the hot hatch.. with tons of difference - http://www.toyota.com/yaris/features.html

For most Asian markets (except Japan), the Belta is built and assembled in Thailand and the Philippines. For the Japanese, American and Middle Eastern markets (except Israel and Morocco) the Belta is built in Japan. The name "Belta" is a contraction of the Italian words "bella gente", or "beautiful people". There is a reason why the better built car was not sold here.

The Toyota Vios is a four-door subcompact sedan developed for the South East Asia, China, and Taiwan markets. USA? sorry no 1st gen. 2nd gen? Oh.. tak laku so they only continue selling Yaris.. which is the hot hatch.

It's a good enough starting car, ie if you're still not married and yet to own a car then Proton Saga FLX CVt would be very perfect.

FC is better on highway, my Saga full tank for highway driving can reach up to 420km (full tank is rm 65-70).

For city driving, if you can reach 250km it's good already.

As for the driving experience itself, I'd say the NVH is very bad meaning that noises from outside is very evident. If that doesn't bother me like I do, then it'd not be a prob.

For the quality of the car, it's actually very good. So far, I've yet to encounter a problem. I've even lenjan the car up to it's cut-off line and corner here and there and it still loves me like a loyal dog.

Love my Saga for these reasons

Pada pandangan saya, kualiti memang ada tapi mungkin tak sehebat kereta import. Pastu, ikut nasib jugak. Kan? Buat apa beli kereta mahal, puas hati drive tapi makan NLK (nasi lauk kicap). Tapi beli kereta yang perlu duit tiap minggu tiap bulan untuk repair pun boleh buat kita NLK jugak. Haha...

So, you are seriously serious advice me to avoid Saga? How about Persona boss? The price range are not too far and have more space too...

FIX 3MAX 4 points FSB = RM150(discounted RM130)
FIX 3MAX 3 point rear seat brace = RM160(discounted RM135)
FIX ULAR room bar = RM150 if not mistaken
FIX ULAR rear member brace = RM175 if not mistaken

3MAX contact person = Marhaihai
ULAR contact person = drexchan

So, married ady kenot drive GaGa lar

NVH? FIX rubber door seal lar diu

His just being sarcastic. Can't you see the things his fixing are all add on. Listen to those who own the car and driven them before instead those who told you. I listen hor my friend say bla bla bla and the list goes on. A lot ppl damn 3 8 one. They just listen and spread the rumors without even finding it out right or otherwise.

Uncle david.. 3Max is also another kind of performance bars ah?

Tibai.... I'm being sarcastic lar. I'm telling you I luv my GaGa sangat lar Many people had the kind of mentality of buying Plotong means never ending FIXING, so imma give you guys my FIX list lor

Fix super bright 68SMD LED parking lamp
Fix super bright 68SMD LED reverse lamp
Fix external temperature gauge to have precise radiator temperature reading
Fix vacuum gauge to have better judgement on throttle reponse
Fix flatbed active subwoofer under seat for some extra bass in the cabin
Fix erictioh 100kuf voltage stabilizer to avoid light dim when aircon kicks in
Fix 15" alloy wheels, so it looks hensem
Fix Falken tayar so I can drive confidently
Fix Hello Kitty sticker because they're so cute
Fix K&N drop in performance filter for better mid range output
Fix SIMOTA drop in when K&N too dirty need to wash
Fix 3MAX 4 point strut bar for precise cornering experience
Fix 3MAX 3 point seat brace to enhance rear wheel traction
Fix ULAR room bar to strengthen cabin torsion
Fix ULAR axle member brace to enhance rear chassis strength
Fix fragrance beads so the car wouldn't smells like dead fish
Fix aircon cabin air filter to further eliminate micro particle circulate in the cabin
Fix IDEMITSU HONDA VTEC 10W30 oil coz its cheap

That's why I say lar, everytime also need to FIX By judging from this FIX list you generally have an idea what does it mean by FIX lah.

Bars are not "PERFORMANCE" part. It's FIX tool. To fix your handling and torsion rigidity

Please consult Marhaihai directly. Factory in Subang. Quality of those products are awesome. Partial handmade. The last time I got my bar, I had to WAIT for it. Withness them construct those bars piece by piece. I have the confident to say 3MAX product either can match the well known BRAND, or out perform their competitor at a lower price

ill still call it PERFORMANCE BAR!!! cause it provides better handling I dont care it is performance PART! la la la

oh heard of 3MAX but never thought it would be that good. the rigidness of the steel.. solid bo? or flimsy flimsy those kind?

Now I understand. Damn it. LoL... Well, I sit inside and I drive my friend's Saga. Just the trunk that feel quite light, cheap. Other than that, very comfortable for the price.

Oi kawan, marah ka?! Haha... Sorry boss. I don't know that you're joking . Well, I'm really zero knowledge with car, so I thought you really not encouraging me to buy Saga. My first aim are Vios, Almera, Forte, Fiesta, Mazda 2 but now I have a new plan with my future so I just thinking of Proton. So, I have Saga and Persona, both AT in my mind. Different are about RM6k (according the price list from Proton Edar website) for 1.3 Saga vs 1.6 Persona Standard. So, should I just buy Persona? I looking for a spacy car.

Go to showroom ,test drive both. test out both cars. For me, the reason why i go for saga flx is the rear seat are much more comfortable than persona rear seat. Persons rear seats are somehow almost 90' straight up which is kinda torturous for long journey for the back passengers.
If you really want to get saga, I would suggest to go for 1.6 Saga FLX SE. you will need the extra torque to move this car around.

Will do next week. But I'm asking to get more input and try to compare the pro and con etc. Thanks for your thoughts mate. BTW, why Saga FLX have different color for body and skirting (according to Proton website)? Ugly combination IMO. I plan to buy white car.

saga vs persona..

persona all the la dey...

Is it? Hmmm... Well, where can I find spec/ detail sheet for both Saga and Persona, other than Proton showroom and seller? I only found pricing at Proton website...

go for saga flx se. persona the spec aint that good la. unless they are still selling the H-Line models. Elegance issit?

Entah la boss Elegance or what . Zero regarding car... I think gonna take the browser from SA at Miri Proton next week, and compare and ask refer at this thread again.

3MAX bars are made of 1.7mm light weight cold rolled fabracted pipes, manderal bent to fit its purposes. Over the long run, it MAY rust from the inner diameter, but I guess that time the car can be trashed ady

Diaboliqu3,

Persoga is a better looking guy IMO. However, GaGa can be garang also. Depends on huat u looking for. GaGa can be very good FC if 1 know how to control DbW technology. Provided slightly lighter than Persoga, its FC definitely better than Persoga. Some said GaGa 1.3 is weak compare to same category vehicle, I'd like to help clarify that CVT is a tranmission running with flexible ratio. Anyone time if u need speed, just slam the gas pedal, the puller will auto adjust the belt to suitable angle, and the 1.3litre engine will roar! Most tested 1.3CVT 0-100 in 11-12seconds. Topped out at about 200kmh. Manual, around 10seconds, also topped out about 200kmh.

Therefore, unless u really feels the need of that extra 30Nm for such a small car, with leather seats, odd colored skirting, yes u need to look for 1.6SE CVT. Otherwise, Persoga, but u hv much older technology. One thing that Persoga can never match is the aged old 4AT technology. But ofcourse Persoga rear wheels hooked up with multi-link. Anyone time its more comfortable than GaGa. If 0.5seconds faster in 0-100 sprint is not your concern, why not 1.3 CVT.

So, it really boils down to what u want.