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post Jan 18 2013, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(robeng @ Jan 18 2013, 10:26 AM)
let me recap u about TS Questions;
1) The Pro?
2) The Con?
3) Best Price?
4) Where to get?

So, where did he state about 40k? he only mentioned about 400/mth budget.

U can buy a better 80k car by throw a huge deposit and still maintain that 400/mth budget.

Most of u give The Pro but cannot accept The Con.

No wonder ppl look down to Saga owner.
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Mind to share what car and how much down payment boss? Serious inquiry, not interested with bashing and bashed topic. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 18 2013, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 18 2013, 10:46 PM)
can wait for this 1

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dp 60k
monthly $400x 60months

I love marine mammals wub.gif

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Sorry but I have a silly internet which will block some website and your image from photobucket are blocked except the dugong. And, what is dugong? Vios?

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post Jan 18 2013, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 18 2013, 11:09 PM)
may be wub.gif

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imageshack are blocked too. doh.gif

Edit: Okay, now can open. rclxub.gif So, Myvi are dugong car? When will Myvi sedan will be released?

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post Jan 18 2013, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jan 18 2013, 11:22 PM)
Assuming 2.8% interest, as long as your loan amount does not exceed RM27k for 7 years, or RM34k for 9 years.

That means if you wanna buy a 80k dugong with a loan tenure of 7 years, your d/p must be RM53k or more.
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If that's the case, I will put RM10k for car down payment and the rest for house down payment. biggrin.gif Seems like I will buy Saga FLX this year...
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post Jan 18 2013, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jan 18 2013, 11:30 PM)
Inb4 why you wanna join low mentality kampung ppl sleep.gif sorry cant resist.

Anyway, loan calculator for your reference

http://www.autoworld.com.my/v2/tools/loan_payment.asp
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I am from kampung indeed. But what do you mean low mentality kampung people? Are you saying I have low mentality? And what is inb4?
QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 18 2013, 11:31 PM)
Dun buy GaGa, very poisonous shakehead.gif Everyday "fix" this "fix" that. shakehead.gif

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Really need to fix everyday? shocking.gif
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post Jan 18 2013, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(lcy851031 @ Jan 18 2013, 11:40 PM)
Inb4 is a internet meme, it means you anticipated some response gonna pop out in this thread after you post "Inb4 x happens"

Source
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I'm not making this thread sound like a kopitiam but I don't get what you mean doh.gif . And, the website given are blocked sweat.gif . But thank you for trying to explain. thumbup.gif
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post Jan 18 2013, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jan 18 2013, 11:41 PM)
It was a joke sleep.gif some ppl say all saga owners have low mentality. Read thru this thread and you will see what I mean.
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Oh I see. I think I got what you mean. Well if you saying that I have low mentality for my thought just now, it doesn't offend me too:) . If somehow I might categorized in low mentality, I'll explain for my self. I plan to buy Saga just for family car while funding for house down-payment and some for my degree. After maybe 5 years, change to a better car. But if Saga serve me well, I might drive the car as long as the car can survive. Others can think what they want to think icon_rolleyes.gif . Plus, if don't want to listen what others think, try to avoid join forum discussion. Right?
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post Jan 19 2013, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(AmeiN @ Jan 18 2013, 11:58 PM)
Ikut kemampuan diri kita bro.. Jngan fikir sngat apa orang cakap..

Klo betul2 saga ni xda kualiti, cnfem la jarang2 jumpa kat jalan.. Ye tak? icon_rolleyes.gif
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Pada pandangan saya, kualiti memang ada tapi mungkin tak sehebat kereta import. Pastu, ikut nasib jugak. Kan? Buat apa beli kereta mahal, puas hati drive tapi makan NLK (nasi lauk kicap). Tapi beli kereta yang perlu duit tiap minggu tiap bulan untuk repair pun boleh buat kita NLK jugak. Haha...

QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 19 2013, 12:15 AM)
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Don't buy GaGa. Everyday need to fix. If not fix this, must be fix that
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So, you are seriously serious advice me to avoid Saga? How about Persona boss? The price range are not too far and have more space too...
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post Jan 19 2013, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Jan 19 2013, 10:53 AM)
His just being sarcastic. Can't you see the things his fixing are all add on. Listen to those who own the car and driven them before instead those who told you. I listen hor my friend say bla bla bla and the list goes on. A lot ppl damn 3 8 one. They just listen and spread the rumors without even finding it out right or otherwise.
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doh.gif Now I understand. Damn it. LoL... Well, I sit inside and I drive my friend's Saga. Just the trunk that feel quite light, cheap. Other than that, very comfortable for the price. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 19 2013, 10:59 AM)
Tibai.... shakehead.gif I'm being sarcastic lar. I'm telling you I luv my GaGa sangat lar wub.gif Many people had the kind of mentality of buying Plotong means never ending FIXING, so imma give you guys my FIX list lor

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That's why I say lar, everytime also need to FIX whistling.gif By judging from this FIX list you generally have an idea what does it mean by FIX lah.
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Oi kawan, marah ka?! Haha... Sorry boss. I don't know that you're joking notworthy.gif . Well, I'm really zero knowledge with car, so I thought you really not encouraging me to buy Saga. My first aim are Vios, Almera, Forte, Fiesta, Mazda 2 but now I have a new plan with my future so I just thinking of Proton. So, I have Saga and Persona, both AT in my mind. Different are about RM6k (according the price list from Proton Edar website) for 1.3 Saga vs 1.6 Persona Standard. So, should I just buy Persona? I looking for a spacy car.
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post Jan 19 2013, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(Icetea87 @ Jan 19 2013, 11:50 AM)
Go to showroom ,test drive both. test out both cars. For me, the reason why i go for saga flx is the rear seat are much more comfortable than persona rear seat. Persons rear seats are somehow almost 90' straight up which is kinda torturous for long journey for the back passengers.
If you really want to get saga, I would suggest to go for 1.6 Saga FLX SE. you will need the extra torque to move this car around.
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Will do next week. But I'm asking to get more input and try to compare the pro and con etc. Thanks for your thoughts mate. BTW, why Saga FLX have different color for body and skirting (according to Proton website)? Ugly combination IMO. I plan to buy white car.
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post Jan 19 2013, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(AmeiN @ Jan 19 2013, 11:55 AM)
saga vs persona..

persona all the la dey...  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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Is it? Hmmm... Well, where can I find spec/ detail sheet for both Saga and Persona, other than Proton showroom and seller? I only found pricing at Proton website...
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post Jan 19 2013, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Jan 19 2013, 12:41 PM)
go for saga flx se. persona the spec aint that good la. unless they are still selling the H-Line models. Elegance issit?
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Entah la boss Elegance or what sweat.gif . Zero regarding car... I think gonna take the browser from SA at Miri Proton next week, and compare and ask refer at this thread again.
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post Jan 19 2013, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 19 2013, 03:06 PM)
3MAX bars are made of 1.7mm light weight cold rolled fabracted pipes, manderal bent to fit its purposes. Over the long run, it MAY rust from the inner diameter, but I guess that time the car can be trashed ady yawn.gif

Diaboliqu3,

Persoga is a better looking guy IMO. However, GaGa can be garang also. Depends on huat u looking for. GaGa can be very good FC if 1 know how to control DbW technology. Provided slightly lighter than Persoga, its FC definitely better than Persoga. Some said GaGa 1.3 is weak compare to same category vehicle, I'd like to help clarify that CVT is a tranmission running with flexible ratio. Anyone time if u need speed, just slam the gas pedal, the puller will auto adjust the belt to suitable angle, and the 1.3litre engine will roar! Most tested 1.3CVT 0-100 in 11-12seconds. Topped out at about 200kmh. Manual, around 10seconds, also topped out about 200kmh.

Therefore, unless u really feels the need of that extra 30Nm for such a small car, with leather seats, odd colored skirting, yes u need to look for 1.6SE CVT. Otherwise, Persoga, but u hv much older technology. One thing that Persoga can never match is the aged old 4AT technology. But ofcourse Persoga rear wheels hooked up with multi-link. Anyone time its more comfortable than GaGa. If 0.5seconds faster in 0-100 sprint is not your concern, why not 1.3 CVT.

So, it really boils down to what u want.
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Seems like I only can decide when I compare all the spec line up. For now, I'm more interested with Saga FLX exec. BTW, what's the difference between FLX Exec and FLX CVT? Proton website are not car noob friendly. doh.gif
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QUOTE(redshark_999 @ Jan 19 2013, 08:35 PM)
i think u meant flx exec and flx standard. if auto all is CVT gearbox. the accessories bundled are different. the exec is more worth it. u wan full package go for the 1.6. semua pun ada~
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No, I do really mean what I mean. I thought FLX Exec and FLX CVT are different spec. You might get what I meant when you visit Proton website. FLX Exec and FLX CVT are on different tab. doh.gif

QUOTE(dares @ Jan 19 2013, 09:05 PM)
CVT is the gearbox, that means AUTO. The other option is MANUAL.

The FLX Executive and FLX Standard have both CVT (Auto) and Manual.

FLX SE only have CVT (Auto).
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Okay boss, thanks... You clear my confusion. Silly website, or am I'm the one that silly. rclxub.gif
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post Jan 19 2013, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 19 2013, 11:09 PM)
If want full spec + skirting might as well get 1.6SE lor. However, if want manual then no choice, only got 1.3. As for 1.3EXEC CVT, different with 1.6SE different only few thousand, but you get hellalotmore on the SE compare to 1.3EXEC. Power and FC wise wont be that much of different la anyway. So, if can afford, why not 1.6SE leh?
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I don't hate Saga or Proton but I hate the color combination doh.gif . I want auto, enough with manual car. Kuching are getting crowded and smaller. Manual car good if I want to shape both my calf and my arse muscle. biggrin.gif I still don't know which one to take as the spec sheet at the website are difficult to compare side by side. I wonder if the white color have white skirting.

And there's another idea, buy a standard or upper class abit of Persona (almost similar to Saga 1.6), after few moment change to leather seat, custom skirting, better player and sound system and other common mod. Hmmm... Bingung. BTW, rear seat for Persona and Saga are same or Persona have spacier rear seat? Next week drive test but just want to ask. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(dares @ Jan 19 2013, 11:13 PM)
He dun like FLX SE's mia bodykit color la  unsure.gif

diabolique BTW how much is FLX SE now? Last I check was near RM48k for the white color, if that's true then it's a good deal compared to FLX Exec. When I bought mine it was almost RM50k.
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Yup, totally hate it laugh.gif . For solid color OTR price (CVT):
FLX 1.3 STD: 44 134.00
FLX 1.3 EXEC: 47 554.00
FLX 1.6 SE: 52 056.00
Persona STD: 53 206.00

*East Malaysia price, from Proton website.

How to decide ah... Haha...

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post Jan 20 2013, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jan 20 2013, 12:13 AM)
Of course Persona is more spacious and more comfortable (some owners say rear seat not as comfortable due to too upright...), it's also more stable, quieter and handles better.

Downside is, the current Persona only have 1 airbag and no ABS/EBD, no CVT (uses 4AT), foglamps, electric side mirrors etc...(FLX exec/SE has 2 airbags and all those things) So it's up to you to decide if you can do without these stuffs.
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Other I can live without with but airbag might change my mind. What is ABS/ EBD and CVT thingy? CVT better than 4AT? If yes, so I'll opt for Saga. I ask because my internet block certain website so googling with this internet is a nightmare. notworthy.gif It's okay of you don't want to answer to my silly question. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Jan 20 2013, 12:35 AM)
I hope you can access Wikipedia

ABS - Antilock Braking System
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antilock_braking_system

CVT - Continuously Variable Transmission
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuously_...le_transmission
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Yup, can. Thanks... Reading now, but so hard to understand but I know one or two.

QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 20 2013, 12:45 AM)
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And ofcourse CVT much much much much more better than 4AT laugh.gif
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Thanks mate, I get it... Why I'm not thinking of using Youtube to search for every term right? doh.gif BTW, 1.3 also CVT right? Just to be sure sure... biggrin.gif sweat.gif
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post Jan 20 2013, 01:06 AM

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I think I just hijacked TS thread. doh.gif
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post Jan 20 2013, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jan 20 2013, 01:07 AM)
Basically, ABS allows you to steer the car when hard braking instead of skidding forward uncontrollably.

CVT....well CVT is simply a more efficient transmission than 4AT, very difficult to explain  laugh.gif

Yes, 1.3 pakai CVT.
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I think I know what you mean mate. Hehe... BTW, out of topic. My friend own Hilux. And should have ABS right? He's an off road driver at Miri, which is logging road camp. He told me he disable the ABS because ABS are hard to control than not having ABS. Sound weird? Can someone explain? I know ABS are for safety but why he said different? Or is he need to be repair? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 20 2013, 01:17 AM)
shakehead.gif bro you really go beyond liao. If you're still interested in GaGa stuff, please go back GaGa thread. And some of the irrelevant things you've asked, this is final answer from my side:

If your friend think ABS hard to control, then go ask him how. The only reason people does not appreciate ABS was the pedal is harder than without ABS. There's no INSTANT reponse from the brake pedal as every brake has to be calculate precisely so your wheels does not lock. A car with ABS seldom hear tyre screeching sound even during emergency brakes.

p/s: GaGa thread at

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2663640/+1440

Please make use of it, instead of hijacking thread sleep.gif
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He said this to me. So, that's the reason he disable the ABS. Hmmm... Okay guys, thank you for a helpfully answer. Hijacking others thread might be helpful somehow. Hehe... icon_rolleyes.gif Chow...

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