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 NEW SUKUK : DANAINFRA NASIONAL, >>> worth to buy?

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post Nov 28 2013, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Nov 28 2013, 11:27 AM)
The cost to apply during IPO is 100.00
D understand y applicant sell now n register losses
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Also trade in lots of 100? Means min purchase RM100 x 100 = RM10,000??? shocking.gif
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post Nov 28 2013, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Nov 28 2013, 02:57 PM)
Also trade in lots of 100? Means min purchase RM100 x 100 = RM10,000??? shocking.gif
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No, min 10 shares to trade, so min purchase is just RM1000, if price is RM100 per share.

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post Nov 28 2013, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Nov 28 2013, 02:57 PM)
Also trade in lots of 100? Means min purchase RM100 x 100 = RM10,000??? shocking.gif
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Trades @ multiple of 10 lots
If u buy 10 lots, it means u buy 1,000 units as 1 lot equals to 100 units

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post Nov 28 2013, 06:07 PM

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2nd tranche close @ 98.50 on 1st day
Down 1.50 with thin volume of 191 lots
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post Nov 29 2013, 09:52 AM

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traded at 98.02.. shocking.gif

YTM = 4.77%
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post Nov 29 2013, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 29 2013, 09:52 AM)
traded at 98.02.. shocking.gif

YTM =  4.77%
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Wise to buy some?
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post Nov 29 2013, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Nov 29 2013, 10:08 AM)
Wise to buy some?
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aim above 6% - 8 % yeild to hv be save line.

5% i also consider little.

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post Nov 29 2013, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Nov 29 2013, 10:15 AM)
aim above 6% - 8 % yeild to hv be save line.

5% i also consider little.

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If you think 5% is little.. why do you buy in the first place? shakehead.gif
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post Nov 29 2013, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Nov 29 2013, 10:08 AM)
Wise to buy some?
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I think the yield is fair BUT you need to wait until maturity to get the yield which is 15 years more.. if you want to consider as super long term FD then maybe ok lar...
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post Nov 29 2013, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 29 2013, 10:17 AM)
If you think 5% is little.. why do you buy in the first place?  shakehead.gif
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after learn my mistake realize the MSG can increase above 4% , making wise above 6% is save line for bond.

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Nov 29 2013, 10:15 AM)
aim above 6% - 8 % yeild to hv be save line.

5% i also consider little.
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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 29 2013, 10:18 AM)
I think the yield is fair BUT you need to wait until maturity to get the yield which is 15 years more.. if you want to consider as super long term FD then maybe ok lar...
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hmm.gif I think the yield is not really bad as bond investment. But considered inflation nowadays easily reach more than 6% per annual , hmm.gif
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post Nov 29 2013, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Nov 29 2013, 10:21 AM)
hmm.gif  I think the yield is not really bad as bond investment. But considered inflation nowadays easily reach more than 6% per annual  ,  hmm.gif
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if not so desperate..then wait for 3trance sukuk..then possible above 4.58%..maybe 5.1%...

it matter of time.
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post Nov 29 2013, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 29 2013, 09:52 AM)
traded at 98.02.. shocking.gif

YTM =  4.77%
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Mind to share how to calculate YTM?
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post Nov 29 2013, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Nov 29 2013, 10:25 AM)
Mind to share how to calculate YTM?
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OR.. you can use online calculator...

http://www.investopedia.com/calculator/aoytm.aspx
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post Nov 29 2013, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Nov 29 2013, 10:24 AM)
if not so desperate..then wait for 3trance sukuk..then possible above 4.58%..maybe 5.1%...

it matter of time.
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So.... are you gonna cut loss or keep in freezer for 15 years? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 29 2013, 10:43 AM)
So.... are you gonna cut loss or keep in freezer for 15 years?  hmm.gif
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keep freezer currently...waiting the BOND hot enough i will sell with profit ; use it to buy reits.

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post Nov 29 2013, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Nov 29 2013, 10:57 AM)
keep freezer currently...waiting the BOND hot enough i will sell with profit ; use it to buy reits.
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Only way the bond can be hot IF MGS yield comes down. but then again if it does comes down REIT will even more hotter as well. wink.gif They both move in tandem.

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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 29 2013, 11:03 AM)
Only way the bond can be hot IF MGS yield comes down. but then again if it does comes down REIT will even more hotter as well.  wink.gif They both move in tandem.
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there staple reits or other divident stock..like Tiger Bank also drop.

juz suggestion in reits the price still not HOT move; like what u said it move tandem.
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post Nov 29 2013, 05:21 PM

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Close @ 98.00
Down 2.00 from IPO of 100.00
YTM = 4.77%
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post Nov 29 2013, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Nov 29 2013, 05:21 PM)
Close @ 98.00
Down 2.00 from IPO of 100.00
YTM = 4.77%
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This is for tranche 2, right ? Then tranche 1, which gives a lower rate, will be even lower price.


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