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felixmask
post Jan 8 2013, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(xuexueli @ Jan 8 2013, 10:28 AM)
any comments on this new sukuk??? what say u guys???

is it worth to buy ???? icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif

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This Offer is currently open for subscription through Maybank2u. You can apply for the DanaInfra Retail Sukuk and check your application status conveniently online, wherever you are.

Sukuk Issue Number  : 537
Sukuk Name  : DanaInfra Retail Sukuk
Opening Date  : 8 January 2013
Closing Date  : 18 January 2013
Unit Price  : RM100.00
More information on DanaInfra Retail Sukuk is available through its knowledge pack and at www.danainfra.com.my as well as www.bursamalaysia.com/etbs.
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Cant find the profit rate......anyone spotted? I see sample calculation 3.74%....dam little from my public mutual bond fund.

below the link: DanaInfra Profit rate
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...5&if_height=663

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post Jan 8 2013, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 8 2013, 10:50 AM)
It is a sukuk (or islamic bond), so it is about how much the yield it can be.
It is not a ordinary stock with dividend.
The rate is not attractive, that at 3.x% little different with FD.


Unless the sukuk bond price goes down (which highly unlikely for current situation), that make the yield higher, only then it is attractive.
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Updated: from dividen to profit rate for correct Terminology

Dam little, must wait and see got other yield more then this one

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post Jan 8 2013, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(htt @ Jan 8 2013, 04:21 PM)
This parking might be one way one... at 3.74% that's hardly attractive... Maybe can buy at open market with cheaper price later tongue.gif
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Anyhow is comfirm 3.74 profit rate? or hv to wait till closing?
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post Jan 8 2013, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(htt @ Jan 8 2013, 04:32 PM)
Haha... everyone say so, but don't even see the prospectus leh... But 3.74% hardly inspiring for a search tongue.gif  yawn.gif
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I read prspectus cant find the profit rate, only find in sample calculation and thestar.

Got stated:
How will the Profit Rate be determined?
The Profit Rate will be determined at the close of the book building of the institutional offering.
It will be determined and the prevailing market interest rate.



blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif No one know until.......the closing date... blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif

Wait and see tmorw news .... doh.gif







felixmask
post Jan 8 2013, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jan 8 2013, 05:02 PM)
3.74% is much better than German Bonds, don't u think so  laugh.gif

But not  so attractive  when u compare that to Greece one.

Maybe u can sell for a 1.5% gain in the open market also.... icon_rolleyes.gif
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got fee selling back: 0.33% of trade value;
Quote form prospetus:

How much is the transaction cost to buy and sell DanaInfra Retail Sukuk?
There will be no fee at the point of subscription. However, the
transaction cost in the secondary market is 0.33% of the trade value.


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post Jan 19 2013, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Jan 19 2013, 01:25 PM)
Should be under-subcribed!!!

Sukuk offer period extended

KUALA LUMPUR: DanaInfra Nasional Bhd, a wholly owned subsidiary of Minister of Finance, Inc, will extend the offer period for its maiden retail sukuk to another week.

The retail sukuk was launched on Jan 8 in what was considered the country's first new asset class in the exchange meant for retail investors. The offer period was opened for 11 days from Jan 8 to yesterday.

However, it will now be extended to another week to give retail investors the opportunity to invest in this new instrument.

The indicative profit rate, which was previously announced at a minimum of 3.7% per annum, has now been fixed at 4% per annum.

The investment offers pre-determined returns in the form of coupons, which are paid out over regular intervals. Investors need only a minimum of RM1,000 as capital to start investing at the initial public offering stage.

This debut issuance will be used to partly fund the MRT project, giving investors the opportunity to diversify their investment portfolio by investing in the nation's key transport infrastructure with the security of a government guarantee with Syariah-compliant returns to boot.

DanaInfra chairman Datuk Mat Noor Nawi said DanaInfra was formed to ensure and facilitate the funding of large infrastructure projects undertaken by the government for the benefit of the general public.

“Our role is one which comes with great responsibility and we are committed to undertake our role with utmost integrity.

“We are proud to be given the privilege to become the first issuer and be able to provide the public the opportunity to share in the growth and wealth of the nation with the launch of the country's debut DanaInfra retail sukuk,” he said in a statement yesterday.

The RM300mil retail sukuk is part of the second series of sukuk being issued this month for a total of RM1.5bil, with RM1.2bil slated for institutional over-the-counter trading for 10-year papers.
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...10&sec=business
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laugh.gif laugh.gif cant beat EPF dividend
http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...the-cards-.html
Wait for ah jib extend more.

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post Jan 19 2013, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 19 2013, 03:16 PM)
It is not about extension, it is about its yield.

FD rate now is 3.x% for 1 year, as retailer why one want to opt a sukuk/bond that yield is almost the same with FD?
(bare in mind buy/sell need to incur commission charges which can be range from 0.1*% ~ 0.42%, I assumed it may be traded like ordinary stocks and incurred the same commission if one incurred 0.4% at 3.7%, net yield is only 3.3%)
(If incurred both way buy & sell, then 0.4% x 2, like that lower than FD, it doesn't make sense for retailers already)

It needs to provide better yield like at least around 1% higher than any FD can be offered out there.
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nod.gif nod.gif nod.gif increase the yield.
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post Oct 25 2013, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(topearn @ Oct 25 2013, 11:01 AM)
Amount : Up to RM100,000,000.00
Nominal Value Tenure : 15 years
Profit rate : 4.58% per annum
Opening date for Danainfra Retail Sukuk offering : 24 October 2013
Closing date for Danainfra Retail Sukuk offering :15 November 2013
Listing and commencement of trading : 28 November 2013

Got some queries -
1) Any balloting for this ? balloting. else invest as Instuitional investor thru Bank.
2) If no balloting, do U get the bond the next working and interest start from that day ? wait until the listing day
3) What happens if more than RM100m applicants, the offer will stop and those who apply after RM100m will get refunded ?
    balloting, you may heard someting is over subscription...there is min allocation but only few percentage will hv full..the higher you put..the changes you get higher but the unit give will be less what you apply.  
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post Oct 27 2013, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 27 2013, 11:38 AM)
1)&2) Bond always being redeemed at face value, disregard the market price.

3) Yes, but market generally taking into account already, the bond won't be traded at Rm90, if it is going to be matured tomorrow.
Who is the water fish to sell at Rm90, when tomorrow can get Rm100?  tongue.gif
Unless there is a risk of default.
Single tier system already in place many years back.

Old imputation dividend system is going to be obsolete next year. In other word, start next year, all dividend is under single tier.
Those tax credit under old imputation system will be obsoleted.
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Afternoon cherroy,

if PKR win the next election...

the new gov still need pay the face value when the bond hv matured?


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post Nov 19 2013, 11:25 AM

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100 % SUCCESS..


Why no one sharing happy news ???


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post Nov 19 2013, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 19 2013, 11:30 AM)
100% success because no one wants ....  rolleyes.gif
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tongue.gif ..funny AAX/westport also many noise tis one no noise..got fix cupon rate summore...

What ever.... cry.gif I succesfull......keep in the freezer. tongue.gif


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post Nov 19 2013, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 19 2013, 11:49 AM)
what is the coupon rate?
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4.58%....different ppl hv own opinion/preference.

I guess u dont happy one...

I little little bit happy only.

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post Nov 19 2013, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 19 2013, 11:59 AM)
lets see go through bond calculator...

If invest RM 1000, 4.58% coupon, yield to maturity is 15 years.

If hold until maturity.. then total money receive = RM 1000 (capital) + RM 687 (Interest-not reinvested) = RM 1,687

Annualized return on investment 3.55%

hmm.. not much more than FD... hmm.gif Better to buy reit... at least got some rental increase... yawn.gif
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I didnt expect i can kena...this is extra money i save in flexi loan....

I waiting my bullet full before shoot reits...since noting to shoot i shoot temporary at this IPO.

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post Nov 19 2013, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(topearn @ Nov 19 2013, 01:03 PM)
U should check out the 1st tranche balloting to guess that this 2nd tranche will also be 100% successful. Next time, check 1st B4 shooting. Bullets are valuable...so don't simply shoot and waste your bullets.
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1st trance cupon rate & size much more different 2nd tranche.....

Any one want to share their IPO sucess ??? Or im the only lame duck apply.... cool2.gif

no fun this IPO...becoz easy to get while most lowyat forummer didnt apply .. doh.gif

No hot topic discussion.
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post Nov 20 2013, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Nov 20 2013, 12:11 AM)
My application was successful
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post Nov 21 2013, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(topearn @ Nov 21 2013, 07:18 PM)
Congrats ! When listing ?
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28th Nov..book you calendar.
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post Nov 21 2013, 09:16 PM

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topearn and gark

you all have the point......


Let PEACE icon_rolleyes.gif and cheers cheers.gif

becoz when the storm come...is may not what we wanted

Both of suggestion to equip all the investor to sail cross the storm day.

We cant blame each other who create the storm ...when it come always come with unexpected.

Best always diversity and don't put all the egg in single bucket.

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post Nov 27 2013, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(wisillichok @ Nov 26 2013, 10:48 PM)
Bro, congratulations to both of us. Please check your application status at MIH and share with me your surprise. If it is correct what both of us see in CDS tomorow, then what ever Dana price  open up will be full 100% bonus. Please check and share with me ok
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WHAT BONUS? JACKPOT got this IPO?
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post Nov 27 2013, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(topearn @ Nov 27 2013, 08:58 AM)
Agree, absolutely no bonus...the best it could do is maybe go to 102 vs IPO price of 100...this is a bond, not a stock.
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you keeping or seeling ?

My mind still worry the MGS, Tapering Qe and BNM OPR increse, the BOND price will drop after few year listing....

except the New One issue Bond will hv greater cupon yield.


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post Nov 28 2013, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 28 2013, 02:37 PM)
felixmask You sold your sukuk already?
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not yet....still in ICE room..like leaking ICE CREAM

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