RM100 per unit. sounds like quite hard to digest
NEW SUKUK : DANAINFRA NASIONAL, >>> worth to buy?
NEW SUKUK : DANAINFRA NASIONAL, >>> worth to buy?
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Nov 27 2013, 02:08 PM
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RM100 per unit. sounds like quite hard to digest
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Nov 27 2013, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE(topearn @ Nov 27 2013, 08:58 AM) Agree, absolutely no bonus...the best it could do is maybe go to 102 vs IPO price of 100...this is a bond, not a stock. What would anyone buy at 102?At 100, the yield until mature is 4.58% (without taking into of broker commission yet). Somemore at 1.02, yield become only 4.49% (not yet taking into account of commission + 2 cents loss until maturity). |
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Nov 27 2013, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 27 2013, 02:30 PM) What would anyone buy at 102? IF sold at 102 + 0.5% brokerage+stamp duty .. yield to maturity = 4.35%At 100, the yield until mature is 4.58% (without taking into of broker commission yet). Somemore at 1.02, yield become only 4.49% (not yet taking into account of commission + 2 cents loss until maturity). |
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Nov 27 2013, 02:55 PM
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Nov 27 2013, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 27 2013, 02:30 PM) What would anyone buy at 102? That's why I say maybe........very low chance of such happening...but if people want to goring the counter, then anything goes.At 100, the yield until mature is 4.58% (without taking into of broker commission yet). Somemore at 1.02, yield become only 4.49% (not yet taking into account of commission + 2 cents loss until maturity). |
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Nov 27 2013, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE(topearn @ Nov 27 2013, 03:16 PM) That's why I say maybe........very low chance of such happening...but if people want to goring the counter, then anything goes. Wah goreng bonds.. which shark so stupid to goreng RM 100/unit bonds... This post has been edited by gark: Nov 27 2013, 03:18 PM |
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Nov 27 2013, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 27 2013, 03:18 PM) Don't look at the price per unit as it makes no sense since U R comparing different things. U can't complain why a BMW cost RM300,000 while a kancil cost just RM30,000...BMW cos so much cos it cost much much more to make a BWM vs a kancil. Similarly a RM1 per unit stock is is not 100 times cheaper vs a RM100 per unit bond.A sundry shop can sell a pack of say ikan bilis for RM20...but if U buy a pack of ikan bilis from a whole seller it might cost RM180...but U must know the sundry shop pack is just 500gm pack while the whole seller pack is 10 times bigger at 5kg. So U can't complain to the whole seller - why U sell so expensive ? |
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Nov 27 2013, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE(topearn @ Nov 27 2013, 03:42 PM) Don't look at the price per unit as it makes no sense since U R comparing different things. U can't complain why a BMW cost RM300,000 while a kancil cost just RM30,000...BMW cos so much cos it cost much much more to make a BWM vs a kancil. Similarly a RM1 per unit stock is is not 100 times cheaper vs a RM100 per unit bond. haha you obviously dont know the goreng methods.. its all about volume..A sundry shop can sell a pack of say ikan bilis for RM20...but if U buy a pack of ikan bilis from a whole seller it might cost RM180...but U must know the sundry shop pack is just 500gm pack while the whole seller pack is 10 times bigger at 5kg. So U can't complain to the whole seller - why U sell so expensive ? anyway be interesting to see someone try.. |
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Nov 27 2013, 04:39 PM
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Nov 27 2013, 04:40 PM
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Nov 27 2013, 05:16 PM
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Sold 1st Danainfra sukuk close to 102.00
Who say can't make $ from sukuk? |
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Nov 27 2013, 05:30 PM
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Nov 28 2013, 09:43 AM
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Danainfra 2nd
98.02/99.00 now Last done 98.95 Down 1.05 |
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Nov 28 2013, 10:10 AM
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98.04/98.50 now
Last done 98.04 Down 1.96 |
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Nov 28 2013, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Nov 28 2013, 10:10 AM) wow i am surprised that it is down by RM 1.5.. i though 4.58% yield is fair.. apparently not... Extremely thin volume on opening.. not a good sign only 1560 units traded.. This post has been edited by gark: Nov 28 2013, 11:04 AM |
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Nov 28 2013, 11:08 AM
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Nov 28 2013, 11:11 AM
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Nov 28 2013, 11:27 AM
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Nov 28 2013, 02:37 PM
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felixmask You sold your sukuk already?
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Nov 28 2013, 02:49 PM
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