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gark
post Feb 19 2014, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 19 2014, 11:08 AM)
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You better find big rope and save... tongue.gif

Which 1 more important?
Earnings growth or dividends yield ?

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Both! Stock must have good earnings AND some dividend... laugh.gif

If only stagnant yields sooner or later your income from dividend will lose to inflation. wink.gif

This post has been edited by gark: Feb 19 2014, 11:13 AM
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post Feb 19 2014, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 19 2014, 11:09 AM)
JTI top line have been stagnant, but its been improving its margins for the past few years.

And I'm a smoker myself, recent innovations to its top product Mevius has been fairly well-received.
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By right, the upcoming quarter should be positive for JTINTER.

It's simple.
last year, its Q4 was a disaster.
JTINTER made only 2.9 million profit.

For a company making 30+ million per quarter...
this quarter earnings, this month...
should see JTINTER blow the earnings out of the ball park....
news/reports can easily SELL the stock...

Rather easy to spot...

but ... the market...
as you can see.......
in the charts...
doesn't seem to acknowledge such a possibility...

Frankly this I cannot understand...
I, for one, if I had to guess...
I was going to guess the stock should trend higher a bit...

But chart says no....
it's drifting a bit lower as we speak now...

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post Feb 19 2014, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Feb 19 2014, 11:07 AM)
Zhulian from RM5 drop until 2.87, that's almost 50% drop

I'm worry there would be major changes in Zhulian's fundamental sweat.gif
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told you to let it go mah..........


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post Feb 19 2014, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 19 2014, 11:16 AM)
By right, the upcoming quarter should be positive for JTINTER.

It's simple.
last year, its Q4 was a disaster.
JTINTER made only 2.9 million profit.

For a company making 30+ million per quarter...
this quarter earnings, this month...
should see JTINTER blow the earnings out of the ball park....
news/reports can easily SELL the stock...

Rather easy to spot...

but ... the market...
as you can see.......
in the charts...
doesn't seem to acknowledge such a possibility...

Frankly this I cannot understand...
I, for one, if I had to guess...
I was going to guess the stock should trend higher a bit...

But chart says no....
it's drifting a bit lower as we speak now...

hmm.gif
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But sometimes market players would try to play down a stock, then they accumulate, then announcement out...KABOOM! Everyone rush in to buy, they dump...no? hmm.gif

And second guessing game is whether got Special Divvy, which was announced in early March last year.

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post Feb 19 2014, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 19 2014, 11:08 AM)
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You better find big rope and save... tongue.gif

Which 1 more important?
Earnings growth or dividends yield ?

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To me, earning growth translated into dividend growth is the best rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 19 2014, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Feb 19 2014, 11:10 AM)
I thought it is related to Thailand's riot?
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Yes, and majority Zhulian's profit from there

AFAIK some fund manager dump all their stake on the sharp drop, i guess they knew something we don't know sweat.gif

U ask refer Ah boon about this chart, keep going down and down until no where to see its bottom sweat.gif
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post Feb 19 2014, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 19 2014, 11:18 AM)
told you to let it go mah..........
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whew.. dodged this bullet... sweat.gif
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post Feb 19 2014, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 19 2014, 11:18 AM)
But sometimes market players would try to play down a stock, then they accumulate, then announcement out...KABOOM! Everyone rush in to buy, they dump...no? hmm.gif

And second guessing game is whether got Special Divvy, which was announced in early March last year.
It could happen.
Yes, someone could be trying to manipulate the stock a bit.

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post Feb 19 2014, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 19 2014, 11:18 AM)
told you to let it go mah..........
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Luckily i don't have biggrin.gif

But hor this counter keep breaking its support line until i can't see any.
It remind me of Hai O several years ago sweat.gif
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post Feb 19 2014, 11:22 AM

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Blardy hell.. BBRI.JK i throw at 8800 cause already overvalue PE 16x... now end up at 9100... vmad.gif

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post Feb 19 2014, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Feb 19 2014, 11:18 AM)
To me, earning growth translated into dividend growth is the best  rolleyes.gif
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Chicken and egg?

But if earnings no growth...
how will company's cash grow (unless borrow?) ?
If company's cash don't grow... how will dividend grow?


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post Feb 19 2014, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 19 2014, 11:22 AM)
Blardy hell.. BBRI.JK i throw at 8800 cause already overvalue PE 16x... now end up at 9100...  vmad.gif
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Ah bo in advice to sit on the stock rather than jump in and out haha... Just joking... Know to take profit ok la... No right o wrong ma.. as long as u happy... As boon said.. he never see the stock he sold
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post Feb 19 2014, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Feb 19 2014, 11:24 AM)
Ah bo in advice to sit on the stock rather than jump in and out haha... Just joking... Know to take profit ok la... No right o wrong ma..  as long as u happy... As boon said..  he never see the stock he sold
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This one already sit >2 months... sometime people can be irrational.. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 19 2014, 11:24 AM)
Chicken and egg?

But if earnings no growth...
how will company's cash grow (unless borrow?)  ?
If company's cash don't grow... how will dividend grow?
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Think like this...

Better to hold rokok stock than 4D stok

Rokok prices go up with inflation
Margins can be improved thru cost management

4D...not inflation-linked doh.gif
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post Feb 19 2014, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Feb 19 2014, 11:21 AM)
Luckily i don't have biggrin.gif

But hor this counter keep breaking its support line until i can't see any.
It remind me of Hai O several years ago sweat.gif
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Some stocks when it breaks down....
just close laptop and no need see one la... whistling.gif

remember Amedia? whistling.gif

is same now with Ah Lian...

time could be spend better looking for other better stocks.....


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post Feb 19 2014, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 19 2014, 11:25 AM)
This one already sit >2 months... sometime people can be irrational..  hmm.gif
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Yea... So just let it be... If I know today Toto first prize number I all in lo... Still need to wait? Haha
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post Feb 19 2014, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 19 2014, 11:27 AM)
Some stocks when it breaks down....
just close laptop and no need see one la...  whistling.gif

remember Amedia?  whistling.gif

is same now with Ah Lian...

time could be spend better looking for other better stocks.....
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Thank u ah boon

Now learn more and more after each exposure thumbup.gif

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post Feb 19 2014, 11:37 AM

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This uli is quite snarky... Surpressed to collect more
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post Feb 19 2014, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Feb 19 2014, 11:37 AM)
This uli is quite snarky... Surpressed to collect more
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he purposely play with you tongue.gif
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post Feb 19 2014, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Feb 19 2014, 11:49 AM)
he purposely play with you  tongue.gif
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Nvm I bot at 104.. xp

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