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post Apr 10 2013, 04:19 PM

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We see this term ‘dual-key’ in many new launches now as one of the unit types offered in many new launches today, including a couple of Executive Condominiums.

What is dual-key apartment?

Dual-key apartment essentially is a single strata-titled unit with a studio apartment adjoining a regular condominium apartment (ranging from 2 bedroom apartments to 4 bedroom apartments), sharing the same foyer but separate doors. The studio apartment and the regular condominium apartment are meant to be able to function as a house independently, such that both apartments have their own Kitchen, bathrooms, separate doors etc.

Following the ‘shoebox’ apartment trend, dual-key units seems to be the next ‘in’ thing in the real estate industry in Singapore. The growing popularity of the dual-key concept in condominiums these days are understandable. While the ‘shoebox’ unit offers an opportunity for buyers to own a unit located in the prime districts yet at an affordable quantum, dual-key units allow flexibilities.

Essentially dual-key units are all about possibilities and flexibilities. You can:

1) Live with your parents while you maintain certain comfort level of privacy for you and your family. This is especially important for children who wants to ‘keep an eye’ on their old-aged parents.

2) A private nest for your grown child, while still staying in close contact.

3) Rental opportunity. You can choose to either rent out the studio apartment while you stay in the regular condominium apartment, or you can choose to rent out ‘both’ apartments, while you pay for the price of one! You can also keep an eye on your tenant if you live in the same dual-key apartment. Because dual-key units are single titled units, you do not have to worry about Additional Buyers’ Stamp Duty or securing an additional bank loan where MAS new restrictions kick in. It will be that you are buying one house, but you reap the benefits of two!

4) You have a choice to remove the partition wall of the dual-key apartment to have a bigger unit when your family size grow.

5) The studio apartment could be your private home office, separated from your residences.

6) The attached studio apartment can be anything basically, limited only by your creativity.

Most new launches we see these days offers dual-key units, with 3 bedroom dual-key and 4 bedroom dual-key as the most commonly seen types of dual-key apartments. The sizes of these dual-key units are generally larger in size and thus will cost more in terms of quantum.

Some developers call these multi-generation units or inter-generation units, essentially it means the same thing.

Fisheye Viewpoint:

The dual-key concept may be more sustainable in the long term compared to the ’shoebox’ units due to our gradually aging population and unlike demand for ‘shoebox’ units may just be a property bubble, there will be genuine demands for grown children and parents wanting to stay together. It is a real situation that people faces these days where they have to shuffle to and fro just to visit their parents or just to have dinner. The situation becomes particularly pressing especially when old-age parents have certain medical conditions that require care-taking or monitoring. Yet, not many have the financial ability to purchase two apartments within the same development just to stay close together enough. Such dual-key units are the solutions to these problems and considerations.

It is also an attractive option for amateur property investors where they may not have enough liquid funds to buy a second house for investment. Especially with today’s government stringent measures on the property market, such as the Additional Buyers’ Stamp Duty (ABSD) and tighter loan-to-value ratio when securing bank loans. Dual-key again is the solution as it still remains a single strata titled property!

Although the overall price tags for such dual-key units are higher due to the larger size, it is still significantly lower than purchasing two separate units. The only down side is probably you would not be able to sell off part of the apartment like two separate units.

One thing to note though, developers are fast latching onto the ‘dual-key’ trend, however, to maximize profits, they are building 3 bedroom dual-key units at 1,300 sqft. So I will advise that you watch out for ‘mickey mouse’ dual-key units that may not be as comfortable to live in as you want it to be.

You have to get prepared that your regular 3 bedroom condominium unit is going to be even smaller than a true-blue traditional 3 bedroom unit. Take a 1,300sqft dual-key unit for example, 500 sqft goes to the studio apartment (which is the size of a ’shoebox’ unit), the 3 bedroom unit will be 800sqft, which is really tiny for a 3 bedroom.

For this model to work according to the above discussed principles, it will not be advisable to buy a small dual-key unit.

http://fisheyer.com/2012/12/02/dual-key-apartments/
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post Apr 10 2013, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Apr 10 2013, 04:29 PM)
Sorry... Firstly I'm from UOS, University of Society..... Secondly, I look forward to live better, not backward....  rclxm9.gif
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bro, this micro pantry concept definitely not for established UOS graduates like yourself

am thinking of renting out the "attached studio/room unit" to single working adults in the locality looking for good quality private accommodation. "affordable privacy" very important for this group brows.gif

they also help subsidise the landlord's installment rclxms.gif


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post Apr 10 2013, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(chulk @ Apr 10 2013, 05:18 PM)
lol better dont try.
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boss peri-peri may bomb you here though......
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post Apr 11 2013, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(chulk @ Apr 10 2013, 08:21 PM)
nah i am with peri peri side.  tongue.gif
will open a new thread until i have enough information.
now pending on pricing and packaging, the rest are ready.
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u mean u r peri-peri's side (dish)? shocking.gif drool.gif
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post Apr 11 2013, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(petlu28 @ Apr 11 2013, 12:19 PM)
still this topic? concentrate about Vina lor.
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ok ok tongue.gif

any idea how much the "single room/studio" (part of the dual key unit) can rent for?
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post Apr 12 2013, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(adrian0229 @ Apr 11 2013, 08:49 PM)
when the showroom will ready ya?
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once show unit is ready, Mitraland sure naik harga wan smile.gif

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post Apr 12 2013, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(jpaul @ Apr 12 2013, 03:25 PM)
What is the selling point of this project?
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skies above, greens below
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post Apr 12 2013, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(citykyo @ Apr 12 2013, 05:23 PM)
Haha doesn't make sense lo... i think their intension is just to explain the concept and functionality of dual key type la...
60% Greenery, Dual Key, Full facilities, reputed developer, nice finishing (according to buyers) and etc....

Anyway, I'm going to particape the soft launch tomorow early morning... Who's joining !! lets's meet up!  brows.gif
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ok-ah, you promise don't buy tomorrow and wait for show unit to finish first k smile.gif hehe
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post Apr 14 2013, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(hellooWorld @ Apr 13 2013, 10:57 PM)
2 types : 1250 sqft & 1550 sqft (if not mistaken)
8% discount
free S&P
DIBS
free 4 aircone
500 psf (b4 discount)
each level increase 2k
currently selling Tower A and B, still got another tower C
10k booking fee. if loan reject, fully refund without any single cent charge
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how many units u booked? smile.gif

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post Apr 15 2013, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(hellooWorld @ Apr 14 2013, 09:59 PM)
haha..none, out of budget...so quiet here, no1 buying? i tot almost fully booked, jz left few units...
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Block B 7788. Mitraland opened Block A for preview over the weekend. Response is very good with minimal publicity - no show unit and no AP license yet.
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post Apr 16 2013, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(kitkat @ Apr 15 2013, 05:31 PM)
you sure?
as i know they only sold 2 units during last 2 days.
Block A they open before the weekend, and whole block A only 11 units sold.
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i was there Saturday afternoon and I recall about 4 units were taken in Block A.

if indeed 11 units were sold in Block A, they couldn't have only sold 2 units over the weekend, right?


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post Apr 18 2013, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(kitkat @ Apr 17 2013, 11:46 AM)
by the way, for Block B it seems most unit been taken up, but i understand that quite a big number of those units, are "book" by developer biz partner, contractor, etc.
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yes, most of the Block B units were taken up by insiders.

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post Apr 18 2013, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(kitkat @ Apr 18 2013, 01:24 PM)
glad you know that.
the project response isn't as good as you thought.
please think twice before you proceed.
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I already knew most of the units were taken by insiders when I booked. Maybe I am an insider too? smile.gif

By the way, am told - again - that Block A was opened for booking over the weekend and 10 units were taken over the weekend.

Maybe u want to double check with your source?

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post Apr 18 2013, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(kitkat @ Apr 18 2013, 03:49 PM)
the market still good, in fact i feel that better than 6 months ago.
but it doesnt mean that ALL project can be sold within a month.
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funny that you think insiders buying a project is not a good sign. so, what's a good sign then - insiders don't buy but outsiders all jump in and buy? hehe

btw, u sound like the confident-type, how many properties do u buy a year?

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post Apr 18 2013, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(chulk @ Apr 18 2013, 09:20 PM)
buddy, i know how they play the game.
few months later you might found that a big number of those units that book by "insider" suddenly loan reject and reopen for sale.
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I also know this ancient trick la bro. Sticker doesn't mean anything until SPA and LA/DA are signed.

Whether there will be a hole or not depends on the "integrity of the bookings". That one, need a seasoned player to assess......hehe




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post Apr 19 2013, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(cyanidezyen @ Apr 19 2013, 11:48 AM)
Agree with both bro chulk and peri peri - this fineshiraz dupe is probably a metrohome agent who's trying hard sell the condo for the commission la...

next time don't use shiraz as your nick name la...phui!
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maybe he's giving a bottle of fine shiraz to every purchaser leh??

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post May 19 2013, 05:11 PM

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wah, damn syiok - Vina sandwiched between 2 upcoming MRT stations, the second one even nearer! 👏👏👏

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post May 20 2013, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(chulk @ May 19 2013, 05:21 PM)
the first one is not walking distance, almost 4km away.

you know the exact location of the 2nd one?
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yes.......at 95% confidence.....😃😃😃

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post May 20 2013, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(chulk @ May 20 2013, 09:21 AM)
where is it?
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one station should be at junction of Jalan Alam Damai/Persiaran Minang 4 and another one along Persiaran Damai Perdana....
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post May 20 2013, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(familyfirst @ May 20 2013, 03:20 PM)
Then its quite near between these 2 stations?
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35 stations over 56km would imply an average distance of 1.6km per station.....

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