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jazzy939
post Sep 23 2007, 09:48 PM

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One of the reference materials would be the jeppesen book, which is based on the AMP book.
Yes,MIAT students do refer to the book besides others...

QUOTE(underzoom @ Sep 23 2007, 09:06 PM)
jazzy sir, just curious. our syllabus are all extracted 100% from the jeppesen books? heard somewhere that the MIAT students also use the same one? care to enlighten please?
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post Sep 25 2007, 08:11 AM

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Why do you worry about what has been posted and what other people are saying?
YOU are an AirAsia Engineering Trainee. We only have the best, you were the best selected among the hundreds/thousands that applied.

We have a 5 year long schedule for you to completed and at the same time satisfy the minimum requirement set by the regulatory body for you to be eligible to sit for LWTR or EASA license whatever the case may be.

All you have to do is just concentrate what you have to do and work HARD to get THAT LICENSE! Anything else is NOT worth your concern.



QUOTE(underzoom @ Sep 24 2007, 10:34 PM)
and there was a post earlier in the thread saying that the jeppesen's versions are solely level one or so? someone started saying we (airasia trainees) are not much of a difference compared to those from MIAT besides the exposure to a real aircraft.

how far is that true?
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post Sep 25 2007, 10:57 PM

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Point taken. However 'fuming' doesn't seem to be right choice of word here. Are you really fuming? tongue.gif

This is an open forum, anyone can make whatever claims or statement here and NO ONE has the responsibility to put things right... I certainly do not follow this thread closely and will only make necessary remarks as deem necessary.
You can always channel your concern through proper channels which is through your training executive who reports to the responsible manager. Bear in mind,the Engineering Trainee Program in under the purvue of the Engineering Department,they are the one that should be in position to resolve any queries/concerns about the program. The Academy is there to fullfil the Engineering Department requirements.

Your questions are NOT annoying at all. How can it be? I am an Instructor, I get all sorts of questions! It's part of the job!
However the way you put/relay the questions through wrong choice of words can and may be misinterpreted. Sometimes, it is better to hold on until a face to face meeting/discussion session to resolve 'sensitive' issues rather than asking through typed words in a forum... also, there is the internal email if you have NOT forgotten! biggrin.gif

Try to be 'tactful' the next time k.

Take it easy... tongue.gif

QUOTE(underzoom @ Sep 25 2007, 10:31 PM)
i'm not fuming over the course nor the lectures. infact i'm glad that i was given a chance to undergo the program being fully funded. sorry if it did offend anyone, i was just being curious as nobody wanted to refute to those comments made earlier.

i don't know about the rest, but the whole licensing thing and the syllabus and the whole program is quite new to me. so pardon me if my questions are pretty much annoying. furthermore, you did tell us the other day, don't keep quiet & ask if we need to know anything..haha

anyways thanks sir for the clarification, makes more sense now =)
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post Oct 2 2007, 09:47 PM

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dun blame yourself entirely. the system did NOT prepare you for it.
for what it is worth, you now have a taste of what is in store for you... biggrin.gif


QUOTE(underzoom @ Oct 2 2007, 09:38 PM)
to sum up a bad week of exams, only 4 out of 20 passed the module 6 exam by AK. questions were extracted from the EASA question bank..guess we were not ready for it..
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post Oct 3 2007, 07:47 AM

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SPM is the minimum qualification. Score well in your Physics, Mathematics and English.
MAS however has raised the minimum to diploma for the TAME training.
Good luck, do your best.

QUOTE(Agent 47 @ Oct 3 2007, 03:47 AM)
i wanna ask if there is anyone passed for the TAME by just being a SPM holder?
i'm sitting for spm this year and i'm quite interested in this field.
any advice for what should i prepare ?
if just being a spm holder is not enough, what should i go for after spm ?
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post Oct 10 2007, 08:17 AM

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Hundreds of life is an understatement.. think again.

The statement that is bolded, who are you referring to? Who is 'they'?
The minimum age for LWTR as per BCAR Section L is 18 years of age, minimum. Maturity has nothing to do with it. In apprenticeship training, the candidates have to start young in order to learn the trade, and the training is hard and long, hence the early age of 18 (not to start, but for the EXAM qualifying)
Please DO NOT get mislead if you have a diploma even a degree would ensure you a place. This course are only meant for specific kind of people with specific talent and attitude and not many have the cut to qualify.The interview process will filter out the non-qualified candidates. If you're in only for the money, you'll regret it. But if you're in for the challenge and passion certainly you'll get the rewards.

'Nuff said.

QUOTE(ezi23 @ Oct 10 2007, 04:27 AM)
..... Remember, hundred of life including your family and your love one will be depend of you.

Cheers..


Added on October 10, 2007, 4:50 am
... AK and transmile, I think they still take it, because they are new and have no experience in this academic. Because of what I can see is mostly people under 21 is not mature enough to start the course. You cannot start to feel the responsibility after 3 years of your course. So taking the dip is the best choice, cuz you can apply to TAME programme in APR (you pay, so might be easy) if you can't get MAS. Alternatively, you can apply for the jobs in maintenance to get your experience to take the exam. But with a dip, it much easier to get a job. I search and try so many ways, and this is the best way for you guys since you are still young. But if you lucky enough, you will get the programme under Ak or transmile. Furthermore, most of the spm leaver just asking about the money cuz they just think about their dream car. So stop thinking about the salary if you really love this field. But don't worry. The rewards is there.

Cheers Bro..
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Added on October 10, 2007, 8:19 amDon't worry about NOT having cable or someone inside. If you're not cut for the job, no matter what you'll not make it, sooner or later.

QUOTE(Agent 47 @ Oct 8 2007, 06:01 PM)
i'm not for mas la then.....
no cable, big, small......just me bruce.gif
besides mas and ak, who else is offering tame prog for spm holders ??
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post Oct 11 2007, 01:18 AM

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So what do you really wanna do?
Fly or get your hands 'dirty'? biggrin.gif


QUOTE(Agent 47 @ Oct 10 2007, 06:56 PM)
So many sifu here  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
I really appreciate your advice.
I'm interested in this field because as far I know, I'll get to work with the most advance technology drool.gif  drool.gif
But, of course, my dream is to fly. Be able to see my work fly is special (like those days when my paper airplane fly for 10 sec sweat.gif )
Can't wait for SPM & NS to over...
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post Oct 11 2007, 03:02 AM

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My guess is (I m NOT from MAS) they're trying to raise the standards..
Current Form 5 leavers as compared to the good old days is of 'lower standards'. Most can't even converse English to an acceptable level, let alone written English. Sorry to say but somehow our education standard has lowered..
So the next best step is diploma holders...

Your other issues.. I wont comment.. for now.

About 'hundreds of life'.. imagine you certifying for a job done on the aircraft. Aircraft flies 10-12 hours a day. Every flight carries 180(A320) passengers. Average flight ,short sector is 1 hour, so 10 flights per aircraft per day. 10 X 180= 1800 passengers per day per aircraft. Certainly you DO NOT certify ONE aircraft but the WHOLE fleet. Do your maths..
FYI, your certification will be valid and kept until 2 years after the aircraft has been withdrawn permanently from service.
Look at this scenario: MAS has been operating its B737-400 for 20 years... my certifications are still kept in the archives and subject to scrutiny if there are 'incidents'...FYI, I left MAS 7 years ago..


QUOTE(ezi23 @ Oct 11 2007, 02:48 AM)
Yes, I'm agree with u.But how can u explain some of them are change their requirement? why MAS is no longer take the SPM leaver? And the same goes to APR even if we are going to pay? (i just want to ask..no hard feeling) and I think most of my point is true rite? Because I keep watching people says go to this and that but there is nothing. Peolpe here needs something to guide. and what about the talent and attitude if there is a cable? Is there a quality there? The word "cable" scare most of the talented person. furthermore, airlines in Malaysia is small. Except MAS, AK and Transmile, where can they go? The question is, is it enough for all the talanted person in Malaysia. Even some of big company scholorship's student also fail in university and college and some of the self-sponser student done better that. Because they use money. they know how to appreciate. but they ok. Cuz most of them are not dealing directly with life. And "hundreds of life", I think I have don't nothing wrong about that..  

Correct me if I'm wrong..
Cheers..
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post Oct 11 2007, 03:11 AM

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DIY ler.. masuk private school like APR.. MIAT (maybe) or work as a technician and get the license on your own effort.. hard but NOT impossible.

QUOTE(ezi23 @ Oct 11 2007, 03:03 AM)
for example...some or them can't pass the interview, but with a passion, they manage to take the exam and pass (providing the experience or studying abroad)...is there any alternative way for them (those who can get through the airlines programe) ?
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post Oct 11 2007, 10:21 PM

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It was an eleventh hour invitation which I would have come but had an earlier appointment, so had to give it a pass. Maybe (IF) there would be a Hari Raya Gathering later, I'll make an effort to be present... tongue.gif


QUOTE(underzoom @ Oct 11 2007, 08:51 PM)

OT: sir jazzy, you weren't invited for the buka puasa yesterday? haha..
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post Oct 12 2007, 09:39 AM

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ahaw, thats a good proposal ! rclxms.gif
QUOTE(ahaw @ Oct 11 2007, 10:13 PM)
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@ TS : maybe u can make a member list in this thread?
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post Oct 14 2007, 10:03 AM

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SELAMAT HARI RAYA AIDILFITRI to everyone here and the aviation industry from me.

Thats the idea of an apprenticeship training in the first place. You'll learn the tricks of the trade from the 'masters' of the trade. Who are the masters? Basically the engineers themselves! You'd be surprise how the experienced/seasoned engineers approach to technical problems.. their troubleshooting skills and above all the DECISION MAKING process.These are the skills NOT tought in the text books. These are what the apprentice were supposed to observe and learn when they're doing the OJT. Also the technicians/mechanics. They have many 'tricks of the trade' up their sleeves, these are the things you(the apprentice) need to pickup and learn!

Glad to say that the AA Academy took a step further by assigning a 'mentor' instructor to a particular batch of trainees, basically to see their progress academically, provide guidance where necessary and give them advice and talks for motivation. Can be done individually or group session.
The future success for the company and our local aviation industry depends of these new generations.

I have done my part, time for me to share the experience and give the guidance. If you can't be better than me, at least be as good as me which is NOT impossible. Thats my challenge to my trainees. biggrin.gif





QUOTE(ahaw @ Oct 14 2007, 09:41 AM)


happy eid from SZB MAS Enggineering Team  biggrin.gif
@rasmuswil : lets create a mature n professional environment in our rather 'small' aviation community. i agree w jazzy oso agree w rasmuswil, ezi n others. one thg 4 sure,those young guns are Malaysian future. Different approach need for different type of person...

to become a troubleshooter, u must to learn from experience trouble shooter.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 16 2007, 06:36 PM

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I am NOT your instructor? hmm.gif You're not in AA no?
No, I am NOT the grandmaster... I m just a plane instructor biggrin.gif


QUOTE(trent @ Oct 16 2007, 12:33 PM)
long live 'lead' master jazzy...pls b my instructor...haha


Added on October 16, 2007, 12:36 pmanyway u all...if u ave any enquiries...ask master jazzy...he's the grandmaster...long live master jazzy!!! rclxms.gif
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post Oct 17 2007, 07:51 PM

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Why don't you give them a call? Not sure if it's on their website.


QUOTE(Civil @ Oct 17 2007, 02:28 PM)
eh how much is the fee for APR Level 1 ?
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post Oct 18 2007, 11:20 AM

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Which part of your brother's future is worrying you?
The only thing you should be worrying is if he did not put in his best while training. He needs your full support. Morally and probably financially(some) biggrin.gif



QUOTE(DarkWan @ Oct 18 2007, 08:11 AM)

As what he told me, the course is about 5 years and he'll getting licensed then (if he pass, of course). One thing that I worried is - he is currently 16 (17 in this few days as his DOB is on October) so after he graduated, he'll be only 21/22.

Does the age matter, before he can start his job? I hope I wasn't thrown with so much jargon, just that I quite worried about his future.
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post Oct 20 2007, 03:06 AM

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Correction:
AA is offering Engineering Trainee Training. Advertisement in local daily and internet.
Can't answer for MAS. Anyone?
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post Oct 20 2007, 09:19 PM

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As far as AA is concerned, this year NO MORE intake. Two batches this year. Second one coming in soon.
Next intake probably Feb/March 2008. Look out in the newspapers and also the website: www.airasia.com



QUOTE(Agent 47 @ Oct 20 2007, 12:24 PM)
Usually when will they offer ? Around which month ?
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Added on October 21, 2007, 12:27 amThis is what I heard last. Minimum is Diploma...

QUOTE(DT8 @ Oct 20 2007, 02:37 AM)
where can i apply for Aircraft Maintenance Trainee (MAS/AA) ? MAS no longer accepting spm?
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post Oct 21 2007, 03:56 AM

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If you're referring about trying with AA or even Transmile, why not. APR included.
I wouldn't know how MAS would view a pre-u lvl. Anybody from MAS want to qualify?

QUOTE(DT8 @ Oct 21 2007, 03:09 AM)
jazzy, i have pre u lvl here which can be said is almost equivalent to a lvl/diploma. however i managed to pass in pyhsics only in my pre u, do u think i can give it a try?
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post Oct 27 2007, 10:10 AM

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Yes.. I think 'most of us' out there/here somehow WAS from MAS tongue.gif
No was NOT from ANZ batches..they were all my 'juniors'. I am from the Dublin batch!
Middle East huh? Unless you know Roslee Wahid,Reggie to name but a few.. biggrin.gif


QUOTE(Throttle_Stagger @ Oct 27 2007, 05:44 AM)
HI, FOUND THIS THREAD BY ACCIDENT...I'M A LIC.A/C ENGR,GOOD TO SEE THERE'S A HEALTHY INTEREST IN THIS FIELD...I'M CURRENTLY WORKING IN THE MIDDLE EAST...JUST CURIOUS JAZZY,WERE U IN MAS BEFORE? I WAS IN MAS BEFORE AND LEFT IN 2001...IF I MAY ASK ARE U FRM ANZ BATCH? ....
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Dun worry about it. Make the best out of TAFE.
You have a long and interesting way to go biggrin.gif

QUOTE(trent @ Oct 28 2007, 12:16 PM)
master jazzy..im in tafe rite now so avent had the experience under ur tutelage rite icon_question.gif
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