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wailup
post Dec 21 2012, 03:41 PM

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i dont have many race experience, usually drive slow slow and overtake snail car only.
but, there is one time i cant catch up with golf gti. 4th gear pick up, same same.. when i shift to fifth.. he slowly going away, and when i reach 180km.. im 'cut off' jor.. kekeke
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post Dec 21 2012, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(wailup @ Dec 21 2012, 03:41 PM)
i dont have many race experience, usually drive slow slow and overtake snail car only.
but, there is one time i cant catch up with golf gti. 4th gear pick up, same same.. when i shift to fifth.. he slowly going away, and when i reach 180km.. im 'cut off' jor.. kekeke
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and u were racing with what machine... m3mps?
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post Dec 21 2012, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(huaren1978 @ Dec 21 2012, 04:18 PM)
and u were racing with what machine... m3mps?
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wira 4g93t versus golf gti
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post Dec 21 2012, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(wailup @ Dec 21 2012, 03:41 PM)
i dont have many race experience, usually drive slow slow and overtake snail car only.
but, there is one time i cant catch up with golf gti. 4th gear pick up, same same.. when i shift to fifth.. he slowly going away, and when i reach 180km.. im 'cut off' jor.. kekeke
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I also dont hv many race experience but sometime do feel racy for spirited driving esp those like to tiong ppl so close or those very linsi 4wd like tiong the small car in front then I'm to play abit

when overtook them , usually pull away far far ledi ...except got twice, it was a navara and a waja, it was two different occasions...they were behind me at 175-180kmph at max 1 car length or half. I was on a 1.5l honda city. them got balls doing 180 there cuz kk road easy to outrun others cuz kk ppl rarely high speed due to the highway only 2 lanes...and not level as in flat, so, very dangerous...the road condition not nice and quality like kl

these days hardly do more than 140 or 160. just too many cars now so not really got chance for a clear speeding....n highway condition really not good especially when they added the what u call that yellow strips of mini bumps...Wtf ...

I've driven in kl before and some highways in peninsular...I dont quite rmb those h/ways names though.
got once long time edi, forgot where I went but is interstate h/way, it's quite hilly & long , 3 lanes like that. I chasing to see 2 cars racing each other, a 3s & a c class I think....my city ran out of breathe at 160-170...difficult to exceed 170 like that cuz hilly. those 2 cars just consistently pull away lik 190 lik that...



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post Dec 21 2012, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(wailup @ Dec 21 2012, 03:41 PM)
i dont have many race experience, usually drive slow slow and overtake snail car only.
but, there is one time i cant catch up with golf gti. 4th gear pick up, same same.. when i shift to fifth.. he slowly going away, and when i reach 180km.. im 'cut off' jor.. kekeke
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Adoi... why were you already in fifth gear before you even touch your speedcut? MK6 GTi? Coz the MK5 GTi would have run out of breath before you do unless they have modded kau kau. At least our 4G93T can hold boost all the way to redline whereas the MK5 boost drops at high RPM. Even with our stock TD04 turbines, I could hold above 1 bar boost all the way to redline without it dropping.
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post Dec 21 2012, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Dec 21 2012, 12:43 PM)
When you say many, were you just referring to Japanese turbos.. 10 years ago? Comparing the guys who mod big turbo is also like those guys modding their vtec for high power to the point where their max torque, hp and redline falls within 1000rpm zone. Turbos nowadays are more subtle and no more big fat laggy turbos pre year 2000 days.

We can't run away from turbo-lag and spooling times but our turbo-lag is definitely way shorter than VTEC lag... I have nothing against the vtec boys. Had lots of fun with them last time but I just want to make the point that it is not as easy to drive as most people think. It is also not that fun to drive. Blasting down a straight road demon shifting every gear inside VTEC zone is fun. Driving it daily outside of vtec is no that fun.
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Well not really 10 yrs. Evos and STIs still need over 3000rpm to spool, right? Of course already got much improvements but like you said, you still need to expect the lag and spooling time and not to mislead that all turbos can kick already from 2000rpm. And the bigger the turbo for more max power, the more apparent the lag and spooling become despite the technology.

I also have nothing against turbo cars cause in fact I'll take any Evo any day anytime over any VTEC cars, cuz I agree with you that turbo lag is less than VTEC lag while still giving more power in the end. smile.gif But still need to admire Honda for introducing and taking the design approach of still sticking to NA with relatively small engines in order to achieve high power. It's like trying to emulate F1 engines, small but able to rev so high to get the power.

Aiya, we're already diverting some else topic. Maybe should revert back to the MPS. biggrin.gif

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post Dec 24 2012, 09:30 AM

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post Dec 24 2012, 09:55 AM

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post Dec 24 2012, 11:53 AM

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this topic has been really informative ! rclxms.gif love it.

me myself prefer torque all the way!

my 206 does the job over most stock cars tongue.gif

but i had zero chance with a scirocco blasting the shit out of me at LDP especially while i was running on crappy tires.


Added on December 24, 2012, 11:56 am
QUOTE(wayfeel @ Dec 21 2012, 07:18 PM)
I also dont hv many race experience but sometime do feel racy for spirited driving esp those like to tiong ppl so close or those very linsi 4wd like tiong the small car in front then I'm to play abit

when overtook them , usually pull away far far ledi ...except got twice, it was a navara and a waja, it was two different occasions...they were behind me at 175-180kmph at max 1 car length or half. I was on a 1.5l honda city. them got balls doing 180 there cuz kk road easy to outrun others cuz kk ppl rarely high speed due to the highway only 2 lanes...and not level as in flat, so, very dangerous...the road condition not nice and quality like kl

these days hardly do more than 140 or 160. just too many cars now so not really got chance for a clear speeding....n highway condition really not good especially when they added the what u call that yellow strips of mini bumps...Wtf ...

I've driven in kl before and some highways in peninsular...I dont quite rmb those h/ways names though.
got once long time edi, forgot where I went but is interstate h/way, it's quite hilly & long , 3 lanes like that. I chasing to see 2 cars racing each other, a 3s & a c class I think....my city ran out of breathe at 160-170...difficult to exceed 170 like that cuz hilly. those 2 cars just consistently pull away lik 190 lik that...
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what car bro rclxms.gif

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post Dec 24 2012, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(Ridt_Henshin @ Dec 24 2012, 11:53 AM)
this topic has been really informative !  rclxms.gif  love it.

me myself prefer torque all the way!

my 206 does the job over most stock cars tongue.gif

but i had zero chance with a scirocco blasting the shit out of me at LDP especially while i was running on crappy tires.


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what car bro  rclxms.gif
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206gti

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post Dec 24 2012, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Dec 24 2012, 12:12 PM)
206gti

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really love it bro... for a 1025kg car, 190nm torque really does the job for malaysian roads nod.gif
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post Dec 24 2012, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(Ridt_Henshin @ Dec 24 2012, 11:53 AM)
this topic has been really informative !  rclxms.gif  love it.

me myself prefer torque all the way!

my 206 does the job over most stock cars tongue.gif

but i had zero chance with a scirocco blasting the shit out of me at LDP especially while i was running on crappy tires.
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i know the feeling, torque is addictive!
really enjoyed my supercharger feeling honda jazz, torque from 2000rpm laugh.gif
though the handling can't compare to the 206gti notworthy.gif

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post Dec 24 2012, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Dec 24 2012, 12:16 PM)
i know the feeling, torque is addictive!
really enjoyed my supercharger feeling honda jazz, torque from 2000rpm  laugh.gif
though the handling can't compare to the 206gti  notworthy.gif
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did u do a custom supercharger? no lag? cool2.gif

since im on n/a i can really lanyak the engine.... but hp only 140hp -.- for a 2litre damn.

but peak torque 190nm @ 4100 rpm n max torque 6000 combined with 1025kg + 5 speed manual... its pleasing

im still running stock ... only changed muffler to supersprint



about the handling , its nice and sharp! rear can get a bit chatty if i push it too hard...but recently changed to 205/46/16 yoko s-drives and i say the grip is amazing!

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post Dec 24 2012, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(Ridt_Henshin @ Dec 24 2012, 12:13 PM)
really love it bro... for a 1025kg car, 190nm torque really does the job for malaysian roads nod.gif
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wow 190nm for a 2l stock peugeot is amazing...thats FD2R torque edi...I never realise 206 gti so torquey for normal car. myb u can tell abit about ur car lol

QUOTE(Ridt_Henshin @ Dec 24 2012, 12:22 PM)
did u do a custom supercharger? no lag? cool2.gif

since im on n/a i can really lanyak the engine.... but hp only 140hp -.- for a 2litre damn.

but peak torque 190nm @ 4100 rpm n max torque 6000 combined with 1025kg + 5 speed manual... its pleasing

im still running stock ... only changed muffler to supersprint
about the handling , its nice and sharp! rear can get a bit chatty if i push it too hard...but recently changed to 205/46/16 yoko s-drives and i say the grip is amazing!
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nice to hear that

QUOTE(zenix @ Dec 24 2012, 12:16 PM)
i know the feeling, torque is addictive!
really enjoyed my supercharger feeling honda jazz, torque from 2000rpm  laugh.gif
though the handling can't compare to the 206gti  notworthy.gif
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how long d u install SC in ur jazz. can the cvt handle it? I rmb the Sans said the cvt can handle up to 160-170hp car..

U race ur jazz kah for installing the SC?


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QUOTE(wayfeel @ Dec 24 2012, 12:36 PM)
wow 190nm for a 2l stock peugeot is amazing...thats FD2R torque edi...I never realise 206 gti so torquey for normal car. myb u can tell abit about ur car lol
nice to hear that
how long d u install SC in ur jazz. can the cvt handle it? I rmb the Sans said the cvt can handle up to 160-170hp car..

U race ur jazz kah for installing the SC?
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its sad for me as a peugeot owner alot of people look down on the 206... because of the bestari when its launched so underpowered.(75hp 4 speed auto wtf)
So got alot of people look down on the lil 206's. SO most tailgaters, theyre in for a surprise...

fd2r also 190nm? whoa... i thought shud be higher??

yes its quite pokey.. especially with its lightweight body.

topspeed only at 210km/h cant budge... at over 200 car feels abit nervous.
i have no problems reaching it however due to the torque, but the HP is sucky..

peugeot engines especially the ew10j4 in my opinion is the opposite of Vtec cause high torque, and suffer from low hp.

im still waiting for the top end model which is the 206 RC halfcut (ew10j4s) to reach malaysia... then only will be considered a hot hatch ( imagine 180hp and 202 nm on stock and rpm till 8k )

for now still thinkin of keepin it stock.... modding days have past sad.gif
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QUOTE(Ridt_Henshin @ Dec 24 2012, 12:22 PM)
did u do a custom supercharger? no lag? cool2.gif
since im on n/a i can really lanyak the engine.... but hp only 140hp -.- for a 2litre damn.
but peak torque 190nm @ 4100 rpm n max torque 6000 combined with 1025kg + 5 speed manual... its pleasing
im still running stock ... only changed muffler to supersprint
about the handling , its nice and sharp! rear can get a bit chatty if i push it too hard...but recently changed to 205/46/16 yoko s-drives and i say the grip is amazing!
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because of emissions nowadays all 1.8/2.0 also around 140-160hp only doh.gif
the jazz was completely stock.

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then upgraded to civic fd, it has linear power and top end though not punchy enough at low end, though sold it due to quality issues being unresolved now driving a city

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u should go for abit wider toyo proxes at the rear brows.gif

QUOTE(Ridt_Henshin @ Dec 24 2012, 12:45 PM)
its sad for me as a peugeot owner alot of people look down on the 206... because of the bestari when its launched so underpowered.(75hp 4 speed auto wtf)
So got alot of people look down on the lil 206's. SO most tailgaters, theyre in for a surprise...

fd2r also 190nm? whoa... i thought shud be higher??

yes its quite pokey.. especially with its lightweight body.

topspeed only at 210km/h cant budge... at over 200 car feels abit nervous.
i have no problems reaching it however due to the torque, but the HP is sucky..

peugeot engines especially the ew10j4 in my opinion is the opposite of Vtec cause high torque, and suffer from low hp.

im still waiting for the top end model which is the 206 RC halfcut (ew10j4s) to reach malaysia... then only will be considered a hot hatch ( imagine 180hp and 202 nm on stock and rpm till 8k )

for now still thinkin of keepin it stock.... modding days have past sad.gif
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same as what my focus tdci people tell me.
people think its a myvi before being overtaken laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Ridt_Henshin @ Dec 24 2012, 12:45 PM)
its sad for me as a peugeot owner alot of people look down on the 206... because of the bestari when its launched so underpowered.(75hp 4 speed auto wtf)
So got alot of people look down on the lil 206's. SO most tailgaters, theyre in for a surprise...

fd2r also 190nm? whoa... i thought shud be higher??

yes its quite pokey.. especially with its lightweight body.

topspeed only at 210km/h cant budge... at over 200 car feels abit nervous.
i have no problems reaching it however due to the torque, but the HP is sucky..

peugeot engines especially the ew10j4 in my opinion is the opposite of Vtec cause high torque, and suffer from low hp.

im still waiting for the top end model which is the 206 RC halfcut (ew10j4s) to reach malaysia... then only will be considered a hot hatch ( imagine 180hp and 202 nm on stock and rpm till 8k )

for now still thinkin of keepin it stock.... modding days have past sad.gif
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of coz opposite from vtec as most powerfull vtec have big bore short stroke engine, very high revving one like superbike, while urs i believe have long stroke engine, that y have good torque, but not so high hp
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Dec 21 2012, 08:13 PM)
Adoi... why were you already in fifth gear before you even touch your speedcut? MK6 GTi? Coz the MK5 GTi would have run out of breath before you do unless they have modded kau kau. At least our 4G93T can hold boost all the way to redline whereas the MK5 boost drops at high RPM. Even with our stock TD04 turbines, I could hold above 1 bar boost all the way to redline without it dropping.
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no dare to rev any higher jor.. i cant rmb what rev was it when i change from 4th to 5th..
erm.. which version of golf gti huh.. cant differentiate them tongue.gif , only see the word GTI, but damn sure it is not satria gti la.. kekkeke..
i only have 0.6bar max cry.gif didnt install the 'tulang ikan' to max it to 1bar..

should have done that before selling the car.. damn.. wasted an experience to feel 'power up' by just up the boost level.
turbo is damn easy to 'power up' lei.. thumbup.gif

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