Will the real Christmas please stand up?



I've always contemplated that Christmas is the very last type of celebration of all the celebrations on Earth.
It's as if God is positioning that of all the type of celebration, Christmas is the end message of all.

Although it's not the exact date of the Birth of Jesus Christ but Christians around the world have taken this day to commemorate the birth of Jesus Christ.

For us, the exact date is not important but What's important is the message.

The reason why Christmas is celebrated is Jesus Christ. He is the sole reason of Christmas.
It's not about the presents. It's not about Jingle Bells. It's not about the Christmas turkey.

It's about Jesus Christ.

The person of Jesus Christ has come to Earth and He is not a fiction nor a myth nor a legend for there are many types of historians who recorded in their writing about Jesus Christ. One of the compelling evidence for Jesus Christ are the none Christian source historians.

If indeed the Pagan, Greek, Jewish, Romans historians have all recorded the person of Jesus Christ, there is absolutely no reason to doubt that He did exist and did walk on Earth.

Perhaps that is the least of concern that He exist but the real question to ask is why did He come? What's the reason?

Jesus spoke one compelling message for the reason of his birth. I believe its the Christmas message.

He said.

"I came that they may have life, and have it abundantly." We would never understand this message until we see Jesus dying on the cross to represent us for all our sins committed.

And He did. He imparted life unto all who are willing to receive. Many lives have been transform. Those who never have hope in their life now, have every reason for hope. Those who's life was a messed, has been restored. Those who are afflicted with terminal illness, have been healed. Those who are stricken with misfortune at every turn, now protected by his divine grace.

Many Testimonies and undeniable encounter with the grace God are the living proof that Jesus is real. Because a dead people cannot give hope.
Anyone who succumb to death is inferior to death.

The Bible recorded Jesus rose from the dead. And that is the reason why we have hope.

I pray this Christmas, that some of you who are reading this message may find the courage to discover who this Jesus is.

Because He promise Eternal Life as well as an abundant Life here on Earth as it will be in Heaven to all who are willing to believe.

If there's anything that compels you to ask, you can PM me, or asked right away in this thread.

I pray that your heart is open to the real Christmas that came to give you Life in this life and forever more.

God Bless.

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My friend believe in God
But neither believe Jesus or reading bible
He just don't believe Jesus is son of God
He don't believe bible but believe in Quran
He just tell me. How can it be two god?
Jesus and God? He told me. Jesus just a prophet.

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jesus is a son of god , this answer
he not a god but a son of god and go on earth saving people

This post has been edited by meistsh_musical: Dec 24 2012, 11:07 AM

ha, that's because no one can unless you pray for them to be open.

It's not only that, but also by the testimony of your life.

So not only you should pray for them but also be careful in how you live.

God call us to be the light and salt of this world so that we shine in representative of Him.


the scripture says in

2 Corinthians 4:4 (NIV)
The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God

The god of this age here refers to satan.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 24 2012, 11:05 AM

I heard that so many times from my circle of Buddhist acquaintances but it's not true.

If Jesus is merely a prophet, he would have said so.

But He have not reveal Himself as just a prophet.

In Fact He have said very clearly in


John 10:30 (NIV)
I and the Father are one.


Meaning He is God.

i edit my answer already

Siddhattha Gotama is a india god and his go earth to see the world. after that his create his buddha

you are a christian?

anyway, gods are a belief. there is no right or wrong.

this is what exactly i told him
but he said....how u know? they bible might be edited by people...maybe someone write it...
i was

No he's not an Indian god.

He was a prince but none the less very much a Man.

He renounces Hinduism, his birthright religion because he cannot accept the suffering and injustice of the Hindu caste system.

He went out of his palace life and saw suffering.

From there He search for a way out and discover the 4 noble truths and the Noble Eightfold Path.

And ultimately Nirvana, a state that's free from suffering and free from all forms of desires.

I've read somewhere that desires is a source that can lead to attachment and attachment to suffering.

The Bible is translated into many languages to reach out to all Nations.

As such they claimed there's no certainty as there could be editing of text to suit whatever agenda.

And a lot of critics like to quote Barth ehrman.

I always answer this.

Look at the text that you think it's mistranslated or edited on purpose, what does it say?

I can tell you many do not know what is really edited anyway.

They'll feign ignorance with the hope that you know and is able to provide some answers when the fact of the matter is, they also do not know.

But when you played into their game of arguments that you don't know, they'll say, there goes your religion. It's not true.

But seriously, to summ this up.

Really, look at the passage that is edited, does it make any difference?

Answer is, it does not. Because no matter what different words you put there, the main message remains the same.

i taoism and buddhist
well i believe all the religon are exist

a stories about him are unknown, his a india god actually and then send to earth an become a human without any knowledge. So basically mean a normal human only. stories continue like u say.

hmmmm then why suddenly have santa claus?

Because of human tradition and culture.

It's not part of the Bible anyway.

As long as we don't replace the real meaning of Christmas with Santa Clause, then it's ok.

I mean we can have fun and joke about Santa with our friends or kids.

But when people think Christmas is about Santa Clause then we need to step in and correct.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 24 2012, 01:53 PM

I've not seen any historical references to Gautama.

I mean like the writings of scholars or historians.

so basically mean christmas is part like CNY, deepavali, raya puasa?

i future i let u know it



This post has been edited by meistsh_musical: Dec 24 2012, 05:16 PM

in Passion of christ
is a evil try to convinced jesus to join evil?
i just watch it and a evil girl convinced jesus to join her so can release all the suffer his have.

That's the classic and famous Bible passage about Jesus being tempted by the devil for 40 days.

Yes the devil was trying to deceive Jesus by the very same method he deceive Adam and Eve, ie lies and deception.

In one of the temptation he said, if you bow before me, I will give you the world.

If you notice, although Jesus is God, He didn't summon lightning bolt or fire ball to attack the devil.

He spoke the words of God, that defeated the devil.

That same word of God is now in the Bible.

And All Christians can use it to defeat the devil's evil works.

then how about a bible on hotel?
i read it as a bible book for the ghost around in the hotel room. when the book are half page or open it got guest inside the room.

Let's together celebrate Jesus birthday !