Any architect or architecture students?

let have chit chat about our field...
i'm still an architecture student...

my dad's and architect and my 2 brothers too....does that count ?

wah...so many architect in your house...ur house must be beautiful and well designed...where are they studied?

Dad studied in Uni of Melbourne....

Bro 1 in UCL London
Bro 2 Part 1 in UCL London, Part 2 & 3 in Uni. of Melbourne

nice family...i have 2 friends in my studio whose their father are architect but no one have their brother as architect

interior design~~

Hey, I got some questions. Is architecture course involves a lot of complicated calculations or just pure art design? Generally how is the study nature of architecture course?

This post has been edited by TYK: Mar 12 2006, 01:58 AM

What do you want to know?

just want to share how u guys do ur work...ur study environment...what software u're using? something like that

we design the building as the prior thing
for the calculation, we learn a little bit and in the real world, all the calculation are done by the structural engineer....anyway, we have some basic in calculation...

what school friend?

well, to summarize in the simplest form, architecture is the marriage between science, arts and social behaviour. there isnt an exact answer to how much is one to the other, coz every individual studying architecture will give u different answer. that's the nature of architecture education.

from my point of view, architecture is 4 parts science, 3 parts arts and 3 parts social behaviour.

the science part includes: building and construction technology, services (piping, lift, circulation, toilets etc), structures (with some basic calculations), and advanced constructions.

arts part includes: visual arts, composition, scale&proportions, aesthetics and stuff like that. it is very common that architecture students to be well trained in sketching and drawing, some even venture into fine arts or visual arts, to the extreme limits of arts.

social behaviour includes: human behaviour, spatial relationships, spatial qualities, comfort etc.



all these are governed by the architect's skills and specialization. the core of architecture: the design, virtually combines multiple skills like drawing, sketching, organizing, cross-referencing, drafting, verbal communications, tabulations etc; most often simultaneously. this made architects as excellent multi-tasker, and female are even better when juggling between being a wife, a mother and an architect.



i'm an architect/lecturer in UTM, and actually the first in my family to ever venture outside the realm of teaching .

thanx for joining in. i really appreciate it. Actually i have 2 i can say superb lecturer from utm. both of them are best.

can't wait to join olympiarh this year at utm.

I'm an architecture student. Just finished all my LAN subjects and gonna start on what I enrolled for soon

What should I expect for my first year? Besides the lack of sleep of course:P

severe grilling under the presentation spotlight.

i have only one advice to all architecture students:

"there is no single absolute answer"



where r u guys studying?

This post has been edited by azarimy: Mar 16 2006, 08:34 PM

i'm studying in IIUM. come and join kaedians.org

LIMKOKWING

last year went to UPM for architecture student workshop, hehe...got many new friend from lim kok wing. my part time laecturer also full timer in lim kok wing.

i got a coupla mates in limkokwing and uia. zatur, the head department of architecture in LUCT, is a dear friend of mind. used to lepak2 together back in the good old days. wan mad, also a lecturer in architecture, is my classmate, and part of my study group.

some of my seniors went to uia and became lecturers. syala, yun, ruzaimi, ramzi... all are two years my senior . send my regards to all of them.

syala and yun are in arch dept while ruzaimi and ramzi in landscape. ramzi in uk right now completing his phD and probably syala and yun will pursue their study too...

anyway they are among the most wanted and popular lecturer in dept and kuliyyah...

haha...just finish my internal portfolio review...miss something in my section...aiyak

today is my external panel portfolio review. as usual...hijas and hajeedar...

send my regards to hajeedar. i look forward to our next mind-boggling achitect-bashing lunch session.

by the way, what's going on with kaedians website? i cant seem to be able to login...

our admin said that the hosting payment is not made yet...very soon, it will be ok...

architecture student reporting in!

This post has been edited by victorboy: Mar 22 2006, 11:07 PM

welcome to the family

ur school and year please...wanna know more

my 8th presentation board...urban sport centre..this sem project
just wait the result...


Attached thumbnail(s)

looks pretty good! the model looks pretty detailed. u should add more human figures to give it a more... human touch.

and i believe it should be sports centre, not sport centre. u might wanna adjust that, for future reference

thanx for the comment....maybe i can post another presentation boards of mine...i'll improve then.

yup, for that matter, it is SPORTS CENTRE...even in the brief. I make the mistake for my presentation boards, sis syala already ask me about that. I'll improve it for my own portfolio...

thanx a lot

UCSI aka University College Sedaya International

2nd years student here!

yeah, where it's location?

Don't ur school joins architectural workshop? never seen UCSI there

they just have this programme only after the school changed to university status...
so, i am the 2nd batch in architecture programme.

located in taman connaught, cheras

for the past 2 year where i joined, there were aliff academy, twintech, taylor and also politeknik...

this year we'll be having it at UTM in June

yah, azarimy told me that UTM is having a workshop...
i think UCSI is not ready for that....

1st and 2nd year student very minor student due to newly launch architecture course.
but there is quite some number for foundation as well as diploma student in architecture programme.

anyway...if u have time, come and see, many exhibitons to look for...we can share

i think UTM've sent a letter to UCSI's head department. u can check with him. if not, i'll call them to send the letter to u as soon as possible. or better yet, u can just go to the website, and contact the organizers directly and get urself invited.

there's no need for "preparations" for an architectural workshop. if ur school is new, everybody'll understand. everyone's sporting enough and we welcome all. it's the whole spirit of architecture running around, u see.

i believe UIA sent their first bunch of students back in 2000 to UTM. i was the head of programme during the workshop in 2000. my god they were havok! cool bunch of people, though earlier we were expecting a bunch of ustaz and ustazah's who'll curse at our exhibitionist dressings and extremely small personal spaces (if u get what i mean)

BA interior architecture ?
or
BA (Hons) interior design?

it is good to see others people/attending the workshop...
UTM student surely produce a very quality works and design, i am shy, produced a very lousy design...

anyway, thanks for informed to our head of department,
i think they will schedule the time for the visit.
oh ya, where is the workshop will be held? UTM skudai/Johor or UTM keramat/KL?!

This post has been edited by victorboy: Mar 26 2006, 02:40 AM

utm skudai, johor. utm kl's architecture is just finishing it's first batch of students, so they couldnt host the workshop. everything will be in skudai.

haha...we like others also...
this year we hope this coming architectural workshop will be the best...i love to see UTM's welcoming multimedia presentation during closing ceremony in keyTAR UPM..

Azarimy...maybe u can put link to olympiarch website if u mind...

borrow thread boleh keh?
I want to ask is there any institute in malaysia provide Degree in architecture? Pure architech...not interior.

These are the school that have architecture...(as long as i remember)
UTM
UiTM
USM
UM
UIAM
UPM
UKM
the top 4 are the senior while the other 3 are junior

For private school, we have
Aliff Academy
Taylor College
Twintech
UCSI

and some of politeknik also has architecture course...

IPTAs offering accredited architecture courses (up to PAM part2):

UTM, UiTM, USM, UM (with RIBA part 2)

other IPTAs (still working to get accreditation):

UIAM, UPM, UKM

other IPTSs (still working to get accreditation):

LUCT, taylor's, L&G twintech, UCSI, alif

other colleges offering architecture diploma/certificates:

all polytechnics, yayasan pelajaran johor, kolej komuniti kepala batas etc.

This post has been edited by azarimy: Mar 27 2006, 09:11 PM

hope that this coming may, our scholl will be accredited by LAM...the chance quite high because of the two batches that already graduated for part 2 and all of them are being hired.

i still remember when i was in 1st year, don't really know about this accreditation and just working fot it for granted...

well, i sure hope UIA gets accreditation.

however, number of graduates and high employment rates are not part of the evaluation, unfortunately. UTM's part time degree still have not been accredited despite having almost 7 batches of graduates, with every single one of them working in either government or private sectors. quite a number of them already acquired PAM part 2 qualification by individual assessment.

i was part of the committee preparing for the accreditation assessment. god, it was tedious!

thanx for that...really hope that we'll get that...last time, even two of our lecturer/practise architect in PAM board, we still didn't get it...

anyway, our senior who went to PAM and make the accredetation personally, most of them are success...

just finish my last paper last friday....1 sem ahead for completing my bsc...haha...will go to jogjakarta for 2 weeks for measured drawing for heritage study subject...last subject before graduate this july...

wowowowo, albirri. open a thread without telling me huh?im used to be his batch, but im repeat 1year, oso from UIA.. the most lazy student in that batch is me, no hope, no ambition, just got talent in art.hahahaha... maybe times will change me huh? but im really interested in autoCAD...anybody else are experted in autoCAD? mind to share ur idea huh?

my grup are going to istana kuning in alor setar for my heritage study, despite albirri grup heading to indonesia.. i heard there is competition, sponsored by PAM i guess, any other school participate oso.. hidup kedah!!!!!

haha...my fren's here...
gud luck for your heritage at istana kuning...and win the competition...

to be an architect muz have talent in art...???
interested in architectual.....
one more year for me to decide....

no.

architect's must be able to draw. but this skill will be taught in college/university. the syllabus is set for students who does not have any skills in art at all. those who already can draw or have artsy-fartsy talents will have easier life.

u can start polishing ur drawing skills. but remember, freehand drawings and draftmanship is very different. but that's quite school specific. schools like UTM will allow the students to choose what media u want to use: traditional/manual drawings or CAD/computer as a tool. so if u cant draw, the computer can draw it for u.

but if u cant think, rationalize or understand about what u're doing...

yeah...that's a good opinion...after all,
creativity comes first...for me architecture make us more crative in whatever we do...

i can draw manually, i can use cad oso, which one make u easier with the work, u decide it... it doesnt matter if u cant draw, it can be learn n polish later.. mahdi, cr dvd murah kt indon, eddy ckp bapak murah, hahaha...

yup...we learn both technique. if u're interested, everything can be done

haha...nanti aku angkut banyak2...

This post has been edited by albirri: Apr 4 2006, 12:30 PM

there's the third technique:

u can TALK instead of draw...

yup...if we can't sell the idea with our talking skill...it means nothing...
we have to make client confident with us...not an easy task

i'm very busy right now, preapring for my last subject, heritage study...going to measure and produce measured drawing of kraton jogjakarta, java island. the building was built more that 100 years ago...

trip for study and enjoy before finishing my Bsc this july...

hi all...,

a friend of mine did architecture... her dip was in UITM and later her degree in the UK...

she said that doing architecture in local uni is way to easy compared to her degree time in the UK... over there u need to be more critical of your projects... in UiTM it was just a matter of what u submit...

i dun think it's the difference of doing a diploma or a degree thingy...

what say u all....???

p/s... just a friendly chatter here... no bad intentions.

my senior went to scotland for her part 2 architecture...in differ, he said that doing architecture there is easier than in our university...

having studied in malaysia for a full degree, and later spending a few years studying about UK's system, i'd say, malaysian architectural syllabus is dead more difficult than the UK's counterparts. one of the reason is that the system that we use is severely outdated, where mostly are governed by the practitioners on what they want and how they want it.

however, it is to my understanding that UiTM is using a slightly different system, which i'm not so sure about. UTM used elaboration from the bauhaus (german i think) and ecole de beaux art (french), which also used in the UK. USM expanded this into their own specialization. UIA follows UTM's template, but geared it towards islamic architecture. UM took UK's system directly, so if u wanna feel the british system, u dont have to look further than UM.

i have no idea about UPM or UKM, coz they're still new, and have not had any graduates yet. all private colleges offering architecture course used australian curriculum, which is an expansion of the british curriculum.

lim kok wingggg...i'll come to u..now still study at form 5 at MRSM PEndang,kedah...

Wow..we've got our own thread!!! Im an architecture student myself,UTM
Yeah,so happy when i see there's actually a lot of architects n architecture students here

Feel free to discuss, but if the thread turns into one of those thread with just for spams like the other universities thread in Kopitiam, I'll have to move it there.

Alternatively, feel free to create a Architecture student's thread there. Thanks.

hi there...already came back from yogya yesterday evening...doing my final subject for Bsc...

we went to gadjah mada university and they put olympiarch, malaysian architectural workshop at their notice board.

in UIA also we start meeting and discuss...see u there...

interesting.... so our system is a little bit outdated... while hanging around with some architecture student (UiTM and UTM mostly) i found that some of them are mere zombies... they just 'hantam' on their designs and concepts...

they told that they just 'lost it'... at first they were really into it but after a while they just feel bored... 6 years right??? very long time to finish a first degree...

for these kind of students... what will their future in architecture be like???

architect?huh/....

hohoho...cant wait my result when mid May...
*pray hard to get in UTM*
anyway, what shud i prepare when i got selected?
coz i jz bought myself a wacom =p

ahh yes. the zombie symptom. as we've discussed before, architecture demands u to be creative all the time. during school times, we're online creative when we want to, or whenever our mood feels like it. u cant afford to be that in architecture. when students suddenly find themselves unable to design creatively, they'll resort to the "i just want to finish my work and graduate" mode.

look at it this way: if u cant be creative when ur life depends on it, forget about architecture. the 6 years training is to prepare urself for that.

unfortunately, in malaysia, there are still places for these kinda students: JKR. the failsafe option available to ALL architecture students. their life will tend to become repetitive and routine, as not exactly much work around, ESPECIALLY when u're stationed in the sub-urban areas.

if u're offered UTM, just prepare generally RM250 for stationaries. but if u can find used stationaries form uncle, friend or seniors, u can cut that down considerably. one of the most expensive item that u'll need to buy is "adjustable set-square", which can cost up to RM75, depending on size.

are u bringing desktop or laptop? laptop is easier to carry, but desktop carry more processing power (laptop can too, but more expensive). make sure u bring along all the laptop security gadgets (safety cable, lock etc).

or than that, bring along the usual clothings, toiletries etc. dont need to bring EVERYTHING, coz u can always buy em when u get there. u dont need to buy books either, although reading ahead on architecture would be good. we'll specify u what books to read during ur 1st year. after that, u'll roughly have some idea of what books to buy for reading, and which is good to look at.

how about if im interested in architecture
but im not architect ??
anyway here some of my works
http://tolanic.xhydro.net/video/tolanic_reel_wmv.wmv

cool flick! who's the chick?



what do u mean? i assume u're talking about line of work, yes?

well, it depends on what kind of work u're looking for. obviously without a degree, u wont be an architect or doing any architectural works, but u may be employed on the visualization works. a lot of architecture firms in malaysia now employ external 3D visualization. some just want still images, some want animations, and some prefer multimedia presentations (video clip, narration, soundtrack... the works).

it pays quite alot actually. and some students who've been fooling around with 3D animations during their studies eventually end up becoming animators. i'm not sure what's the rate nowadays, but it used to be around RM1000 per minute back in my days. maybe it's higher now. (maybe lower too, coz alot of people can do 3D animations nowadays).

the best way is to setup a small based of operations, and start promoting ur stuff to a couple of offices. they're bound to hire u. most architecture firms cant afford to have inhouse animators.

yeah...ur animation is cool...u can be a freelance artist...just put ur works on the internet...

cool animation there POYOZER... like Azarimy said... u might wanna check the freelance visualizer scene....

what's the olympiarch is all about?

azarimy... u still in sheffield?

yeah i'm still in sheffield. anyone going for olympiarch?

have fun. unfortunately i dont think i'll be coming back soon. atleast not until hari raya.

i'm going for the olympiarh...last time in UPM, the invitatuion multimedia was cool and i think UTM had prepare the best for that.

My seniors said that UTM is the best organizer for the architectural workshop...

tomorrow, our board of study consists of, Hijas, Dato' Esa, Hajeeder and a few pro architect will review all the works, it's like pre review before the real CAEM visit on 16 & 17 of March...everybodi is busy right now...

hope that department of architecture of KAED IIUM will get that accredetation...

architecture is really hard at starting ... i just finished my part 2 B. Archi in USM tis month. it was a 5 yrs course as academic demand not included practical about at least 3 months at any local architect firms. hard and high expenses for printing. but u will learn more in graphics , animation and 3d modeling for basic requirement now. part 1 student need do designing in manual then slowly to explore to use software.

maybe i jump into freelance career if the market is fulled with architects, no jobs, no projects, bcoz architecture student is very creative in their own ways...

yeah...freelance is more free...free in life...but we don't have stabil income. depends on how hardworking we are to find clients.

i'll like to see u maintain ur excitement after few years there. Over the years there, i only learnt one important thing - it is only yourself u can depend on.
dont rely on LUCT's subject of software. explore and learn more yourself outside.

here's an advise my malay lecturer gave me "Everyone is responsible to take care their own @$$ and not anyone's else". *especially right when ur doin group assignments with lousy group members. i dont mean to be bias but Mara sponsored students sucks the most. not that they are stupid, they are damn lazy n can come out with a zillion excuses for not doing their task.

for those of u archi wannabes plz take time to think over n over again then only decide. MAKE SURE u really want it, take without regret. whatever shits happens make sure ur PASSION for Architecture stays alive otherwise go do something else.

btw i got 2 artwright drafting tables for sale. anyone interested?

haha who told u that? zatur ah?

i've heard so many stories about LUCT's archi students. both good and not so good ones. i never miss my normal dose of chot's (faisal) babbling about his students everytime i drop by LUCT.

wanna see that UTM co-operate with this LUCT in this coming olympiarch...is they really cooperate?

my time lecturer named zatur dont even exist.
u refering to faisal aka the cicak kering? if thats the 4eye skinny faisal u talking about .. i F@rK him once nicely in the staffroom n gettin full attention from all the other staffs, for simply accusing me dont pay attention n dont attend class. im a 100% full attendance student. for the fee that tan sri dato coconut lim charge - one class session average about few hundred bucks. think i go there waste my old man's money??
story goes like this .. another lecturer asked us all to do a mock up model of the brick construction of masjid jamek. i represented the class to ask cicak kering to sign the extension hour to use the studio. dia pulak tak tau terus marah n buat accusation.
another lecturer which i sounded is a fat young lady who teaches interior design. nama dah lupa dah. me n my group member was doing a brick model, and the studio she was suppose to be in was locked. thus she went into the studio im using along with about 18 of her students. me n my member never chatted or made noise, she did her lectures we did our assignment, but suddenly my member's ruler dropped n
she said" can u people behind the column plz get outta my class. kennot see im having a class here!?!?"
i tried to reason with her "sorry, we're not making noises at least not intentionally and besides ur only using half the studio enough for 50 students. plz let us do our work".
n that fatty replied "No! i dont care! out now!"
ok lost a bit of my cool n told her " first this is the architecture studio, urs is beside. u want us out? make us."We continued with our work without giving a damn. her face was black as charcoal haha...

during finals i had to present my design to two lecturers n of all lecturers it had to be those two. damn...im screwed anyway, i manage to present n answer all their questions nicely n cicak said to me "ur cocky but ur good, congrats". my work was among the top placing till he ask me to alter my design a bit, to convince the australian moderators. after amendments i got a bloody C for design thanks to him. well he still shitted me in the end (haha not on purpose la).
i've always thought he wanted to nail me for the cicak vs gigas session at the staffroom but my fren whose in his student group told me that cicak once told their group that i am a talented n reliable student.

nice story..for me, being an architecture student is a challenging task...many things happen because our life is studio life. that really makes special. we have our own office before we start working. it really differs to the other courses...and the other courses students are never understand our life...

Heh, it's gonna be my 1st year at olympiarch this year, but I'm disappointed that UTM limited the number of participants to 30 people.

before this all workshops are limited in no. of participants...can't afford too many participation...there are many schools all around malaysia will come...

since this is the first time you join, it will be great...just learn and observe as much as u can...

hah, that's the faisal i know haha. used to teach me back in UTM b4 he went to join LUCT. and yeah, he can be a prick sometimes.

actually 30 is already a big number. during my time, it was 15 from each major school, and 7-10 from smaller schools. it's not that we dont want to entertain big number of participants, it's the fact we do not have enough facilities to cater for each and everyone. the bigger the number, the problems increase exponentially.

i'll let u come to utm first, enjoy, then probably u'll understand why it must be limited to 30. on estimate, we have about 500 participants + about 1000 observers + 500 hosts. that's management of 2000 people! mati laaa

UTM is the pioneer in arch workshop...it sure can do lah...i'm pretty confident. a senior school in malaysia

just finished my 2nd crit for heritage studies...sleepless until now...normal for architecture student. Anyone prepare animation for olympiarch?

same with my grup,hahaha...talking bout lecturers, each lecturer got different thought, so i u hav 10 lecturers, u got 10 idea migle aorund u during consultation/crit or wateva, whose idea u need to follow hah?if u follow this lecturer, then u got BAMM by other lecturer in crit, u cant blame the first lecturer that u thought his/her idea,thats so damn funny,hehehe...but dun cheat bout construction laaa, like me,coz got no time la nk finish up,hehehe..

that's normal laa. i'll tell u a secret.

lecturers play mind games with u. seriously. they'll fak-up ur mind until u're bone dry. when u crit with person and they suggest u to do something, NEVER take it bluntly. that's the last thing u want to do. coz the next time u crit with him/her, he'll tell u that u dont have a backbone, cant think of an original idea and so on.

what u need to do is to understand what he asks. contemplate, and then consider putting his suggestion into ur design. ask urself why make these changes. once u're satisfied with all the self-reasoning that u did, then u can implement it.

once u do that, it'll be YOUR design. not the lecturer's. so when u the next u go up against other lecturers, u'll be able to defend ur design and not say "that one was suggested by the other lecturer...", coz it's really lame.

thing is, be original. there's nothing lower in architecture than being un-original.

azarimy u heard of a lecturer named Fazidin??

fazidin? oh yeah. he was a lecturer in UTM when i was in the 1st and 2nd year. later he left to join MMU (or something) to pursue multimedia/animation thingy i think. is this the same person we're talking about?

the fazidin who used to lecture me .. told me how frying chow kuey teow would be far better than doin architecture and bout the advise taking care of own ass also told by him.
*rumours ... the fazidin i used to know was all flesh, big n tall, dunno why he dissappeared for a while n became almost faisal cicak-like .. kena jampi kot.. really straight forward guy who dont care bout ppl's feeling. hurt ppl with truth cos the truth hurts. haha

We have to wait for three monts for the accredetation result..hope it will be positive...

One question, i'm going to get my Bsc this July, it is suggested that we work for a year to gain experiences and then come back for part 2, any comment?

Now, i'm thinking of stop for a year and work in any architecture firm and come back for my part 2...gain more experiences

hahaha,gud choices..aku pn keja dulu kot, then br continue blk, otak dh beku gila nk msk notes lg,hehehe....