so it seems in architecture there is little group work?

group work is divided into several different categories. there are cooperative works, collaborative works as well as competitive works. most of the group works in 5th year architecture takes the form of collaborative and competitive at the same time. most of the time before 5th years only in cooperative form.

in a away, group work occurs throughout the course, but the ultimate form of group work only occurs in 5th year. this is also most friends becomes foes and foes becomes friends, bestfriends stab each other in the back, unusual alliances formed and so on...

Can give pros and cons of studying architecture or working as architect in brief

eg

Pros:

Cons:

i'm sorry, the question's too vague. it's like asking "which tastes better, chicken or duck?", u know what i mean?

perhaps u can specify what u want to know, easier for people to answer...

Do you watch programs like Superhomes on ch11 on Astro?

i dont. as a matter of fact, i dont watch any home deco shows anywhere in the world. it's just not my interest. i'm sure other architects might, but my interest is way off from architecture. for inspiration, i prefer to draw from science and historical documentaries from national geo or disc channel. my wife draws inspiration from travel/holiday shows.

so it depends on individuals.

All those home improvements shows on TV are seriously really for those housewives and those not architecture inclined but would like to do some DIY home improvements.

I rather spend my time watching animes, car videos, CSI, Nat Geo and Discovery Channel.

I think i draw my inspiration checking out other architect's works.

i shall asnwer the cons for you...

one of the cons my lecturer told me that is, be an architecture aren't earning much, unless you know someone who own a land and waiting for you to be built. if you are looking for money/money minded, architecture is not the course suitable for you. better go for some trading or businesses area. for interest yes indeed, you should take this course. sometime depending on your luck also.

This post has been edited by victorboy: Jan 20 2007, 03:40 AM

Why do they earn little?

because some of them very passionate in architecture, that's why they are going further in architecture with or without the title. some their parent was a contractor or developer, and they going into the architecture path.

This post has been edited by victorboy: Jan 20 2007, 03:00 PM

i wouldnt say they dont earn that much as a canvasing statement. architecture is highly dependent on individual skills. by average, u should be able to earn RM2500 within 2 years of working experience, and that rate increases exponentially the more experience u get. but some people are dumb enough not to change offices in order to get a boost in their salary, so it's their fault.

changing offices can get u an extra RM200-RM300 everytime u change office. but if u're that good, u could easily earn RM4000 within 2 years. i know a friend of mine is already earning RM8000 within 5 years (we graduated in 2001), and that's in a small firm.

becoz this field is highly dependent on ur skills, firms opt not to pay u that much incase u're not that good. but the salary will increase within a year once u exhibit ur qualities.

my parents isnt developer nor contractor..how?

This post has been edited by KVReninem: Jan 20 2007, 10:02 PM

Who designed the Petronas Twin Towers?

How much did that architect earn?

How would they seek architects for major projects like that?

like we always do: find a girfriend whose parents are developer laa. okay what? if she's not an architect, even better! u'll get along just fine with the parents.

i. caesar pelli (some spell it as cesar pelli)

ii. total construction cost in USD800mil. if we're talking about standard practice specified by lembaga akitek malaysia, his firm will earn atleast 7% of the total cost which would be USD56mil. atleast.

iii. usually via closed competition. the developers (which includes Dr.M at the time) shortlisted several international architects including several local ones. these firms submit their proposals and presented it infront of the committee. they will also propose the cost and time-span at that time. after everyone has presented their proposal, the committee then decides on who won the project.

Do they actually have to design every floors interior also (Petronas Twin Towers)?

the petronas towers fall into a category we call open-plan office. it means the design should consider the general office use of the floor without knowing who will occupy a particular space/floor. each floor uses the same template plan. when a tenant occupies a floor, they will employ their own interior designers to setup the place into their preferred office design.

this is due to each office having different requirements. some offices work best in an open setting, no walls, just tables that form small working spaces (imagine police stations in america). others require cubicles for each individual, hence requiring different designs. and usually tenants dont come in when the architects are still around, so they have to employ different interior designers.

yeah...u can find the book about that tower...they produced almost 2000 models just get the proposal approved...also a lot of amendment....

hrmm..hey,guys!

once, i went to an edu fair (last year, I think) and was really keen to look up for Universities offering architecture.

then, there was a guy from some booth which i asked about the course and he told me that it wouldn't be wise to take up architecture as there are now limited land for architects to design building to be built.

i was like..are u serious?!

but, to make me (and others) clear..well, want to ask ur opinion about this.

anyway, is being an architect only about designing for new buildings or can they also design buildings that already been built to make it better?

besides that, architects project not only focused in urban areas, right?

thnks!

This post has been edited by *TeDucK*: Jan 22 2007, 02:08 PM

not enough land? well guess what, Singapore is reclaiming more land from the sea, so ask that guy to eat his words.

if architects cant build horizontally, then we go vertically!

Architects are also needed when u are doing some major renovation in your house to sign the papers for submission to the authorities. Not all architects are based in urban areas, but cities are where architects get most of their jobs and clients.

Unless ur lucky enough to land the government tender to build a city in a undeveloped place in East Malaysia.

This post has been edited by xtracooljustin: Jan 22 2007, 05:24 PM

i'm with justin. u see, architects dont live forever. there are always people dying everyday, u know hehehhee.

in countries like the UK, about the size of malaysia, has 10 times the number of architects working in a country almost already fully developed. so i f i were u, i'd grab the guy and gouge his eyes out.