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post Dec 26 2012, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(Boonie @ Dec 26 2012, 02:53 PM)
solo mostly, just buy gears from ah with the money from blue item sales and its pretty much safe,

only dangers are boss fights that has some sort of time limit like butcher and belial which can be solved by over-level your character and red gems in higher level weapons.

get a red gems into a helm will make leveling pretty fast.

i will come help if you want safe passage to those bosses in hell.

a piece of advice is that on your first hc toon, create 2 hardcore mule to store your levelup gears, your toon will eventually die and those levelup gear will be great help. biggrin.gif


Added on December 26, 2012, 2:55 pmoh and dont forget to use the SV passive.. it makes wd pretty much invincible if you dont push it too hard.

my first wd died because i didnt use that passive.. sigh.


Added on December 26, 2012, 3:53 pmoh and once u reach level 50+ (hell), just buy a -lvl req weapon from the ah and u own hell. so u probably wont need my help... but will come if u need help la..
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Thx for the useful tips rclxms.gif
Red Gem (Ruby) into wpn to get LoH? I plan to use RoT & Acid Rain in HC since both have high proc rate therefore making LoH a "lifesaver" in HC .. i also might try out some other %chance to affix (from what i tried in SC .. stun & immobilize is pretty good). Will try to get my hand on an Azurewrath and do the freeze build which imho is the best crowd control build altho will result in low dps.
SV is a must thumbup.gif what other passives do u use? i was thinking of using Bad Medicine (since both RoT n Acid Rain are poison based DoT attacks) & a mana regen passive (probably Blood Ritual)

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post Dec 28 2012, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 28 2012, 02:10 PM)
what mojo stats consider good? Last night was my mojo day as I looted 2 katak.
snake/ayam/zuni?


Added on December 28, 2012, 2:11 pmAnd, how to make use of 1k mana pool effectively? spam bear I know for sure.
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Mojo preferred affix roll in order of importance:
- Average Damage .. preferably 250 n above with high min dmg
- Crit Chance (legendary mojos win over set mojo as both top leg mojo hv fixed CC with Ukh hving highest possible CC at 10)
- Mana regen .. major issue with WD delivering constant high dmg is mana regen therefore better mana regen equals more dmg over time.
- Max Mana ... having larger mana pool helps u spam high mana cost spell eg Bears
- Intel
- Vitality

Some infos regarding mojos for WD:

ToTD
- +20 Pickup Radius means u dont hv to sacrifice 1 random roll on 3 gears to get 20 PR
- fixed CC, mana regen & max mana make ToTD an all round great mojo to use
- for 2 random roll most ppl go for double roll on intel + vit

Uhkapian Serpent
- the BiS mojo for 1h + mojo setup for several reasons
- highest average dmg possible (307), highest CC, increase dmg against Elites (great on Ubers)
- for WD skill, 2 popular choice is increase PD dmg @ reduce cost of ZC
- for 2 random roll, vit is a must .. the other roll can be intel for more dps @ mana regen/max mana (altho if u r Splinters build u wont need mana .. Bears users with reduced cost from skill wont really need the regen or max mana) .. personally i would look for vit + life% roll for better survivability on high mp

Gory Fetch
- the preferred choice if u r Carving Knife user
- set bonus of 130 intel is good .. +5 mana after kill also nice if stacked up with zuni full bonus
- the poison cloud bonus could be put to good use if ure doing JF/BM build for best dmg reduction .. thats why also i thing dis dead ciken has fixed roll of %life .. in a nut shell this mojo is best for WD who focus on survivability.

Zuni String of Skulls
- not much i can say about this mojo other than it offers u an option to lose 1 other zuni item but still maintain full set bonus ... i really dont see losing any zuni gear to it (vision is for ehp, marrow gives ar, pox gives ar n chd, trail gives dmg) .. the only time i would consider using string if i use hf ring + signet but still want the set bonus.

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post Dec 31 2012, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(HenryLow @ Dec 31 2012, 09:25 AM)
finally got 13 PR...

Gecko, thanks for the seluar... i mao return it to you... tongue.gif

now i need other with PR...

now i can farm faster... but still cant don like u... sad.gif
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You're welcome Henry tongue.gif i myself wont be using Jousting Mail so maybe going to sell all my JM pants haha biggrin.gif
I just bought a rare pants with 656 Armor, 200 Vit, 43 Physical Res, 76 All Res & 2 open sockets .. should boost my EHP quite a lot (almost 4k armor, 1k Physical Res, 60k Life, 800 AR) if i ditch my Inna pants ... now need to get a Lacuni with CC.
Ive been bz lately, got some wedding videoshoot so dats why u dont see me playing so often as b4 tongue.gif Later i show u the super fast farm technique haha

I've done 3 WD Uber party @ MP8 b4 and its doable but took quite long ... need to sync on who uses BM passive and other dps boosting spell such as Slam Dance etc .. imho if all WD use garg/bruiser 4 garg can do lots of stuns on ubers which will help a lot. I'm down doing all WD Uber party .. add me up @ Hulkie#6526. DPS wise .. eversince using pox with cc i crit more often & with SoJ equipped my bears do 700-900k crit dmg each on ubers.

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post Jan 2 2013, 11:03 AM

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U hv to mandi bunga lor Henry biggrin.gif kasi buang sui tongue.gif
Or do like i do ... rest your WD n play other toons ... i started playing my barb again ... got few leg drops alrdy but all sux doh.gif
I think now i use my barb to do key runs @ mp6 since can do very fast .. haha sprint2 gather mobs near elites then perma zerk .. spin until puke biggrin.gif

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post Jan 4 2013, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jan 4 2013, 12:36 PM)
A question, is 5.5% LS good enough to cope damage reflection @ MP10? Zombie bears build.
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imho & from own playing experience i would say 5.5%LS is the minimum to deal with RD packs at higher mp (up to 10), as long as u have high CHD (300% min) & high CC (i used to hover arnd 36% but i think 40% is the minimum sweet spot) however u also need good EHP to survive few hits & not die ... stacking physical resist &/@ melee reduction% together with high armor will make it much easier ofc. There are few exceptions .. MINIONS being the most obvious but also certain RD packs combined with particular affix such as Life Link can also pose a problem ... personally there are 2 ways i deal with them .. a) spam bears only when SW is up @ when i know they are at low enough health to drop globes & b) using Spirit Barrage/Pheb to get xtra 3% LS (Pheb is great against single targets but not so against large numbers of mobs). Bears FTW! ... no other WD skill can demolish huge packs in high MP super fast like Bears do (especially if u are buffed by SH & GF bonus).

My fav move as a WD is to jaunt into a pack .. SH/VS to whittle their health down & get huge intel/dps bonus .. cast Stalker to get armor buff & also chase them away (s0 that i wont get swarmed with mobs) then unleash the full fury of bears (i notice mobs die faster when get hit by bears as they are running away .. maybe during that time their defence is lowered?) .. u prolly kill enough to get CD on all skills (via GI passive) so that u can chain combo to next pack. Once buffed, nxt pack would die much faster ... that's why when i see an elite pack with white mobs around them .. i take the white mobs out 1st to buff myself then only target elite pack ... unless ofc the e pack are RD .. so i keep the white mobs to leech life of them (nest & prophet who resurrect are good source of free health lolz)

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post Jan 4 2013, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jan 4 2013, 03:57 PM)
Thanks. I'll do some test on the LS.
Too bad there is not many options for WD in terms of weapon.
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Yup sad.gif Skorn is the best 2h wpn for WD due to its high base CHD + OS ... but LS is a random affix which comes with a hefty price tag.

Vigilance (legendary polearm) is a cheaper alternative altho wont get as high dmg as Skorn (only 1 random affix .. n ofc u want OS for that .. so no base CHD) .. however it has fixed/default LS affix + chance to freeze is pretty handy .. Inner Sanctuary gives u some defensive buff.

Other than those 2 legs .. rare 2handers with high dps + base chd + os + ls could match Skorn .. still lacks Skorn's Bleed which is very good in conjunction with Acid Rain on low level speed farming.

Blizz need to buff WD hard .. ASAP ... make SW as powerful as Gloom @ WotB (increase CC in SW mode haha) .. or at least give spell cd reduction on crits bcos as it is now .. GI cd on kills only works in low mp .. there's no way WD can kill a lot of mobs fast enough on high mp to benefit from GI skill cd bonus.

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post Jan 4 2013, 08:01 PM

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The thing is .. what can u do with 3 sec of invulnerability & increase MS on higher mp other than getting out of sticky situations?
3 sec of spamming Bears uninterrupted wont even kill an elite pack of Phasebeast on mp8 let alone mp10 lolz
Plus there's no way u can perma Jaunt on high mp games (unless skill cd is influenced by crits like Wiz do)
At the end of the day even if Blizz doesnt buff WD .. i still enjoy playing WD as it gives me most challenge and satisfaction.



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post Jan 4 2013, 08:27 PM

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Heres the thing:
To boost dps to the max any character in D3 hv to get the trifecta to the max .. in other characters IAS works in their favor in resource generation (attack faster = more hatred ... more attack = more crits = more disc for DH.. same thing for barb/monk/wiz) in WD's case ias is inversely proportional to their resource which is mana as highest dmg spell (ie Bears)cost a lot of mana to use. the faster WD attacks using Bears the faster they lose mana and apart from regen (which is slow) the 3 spell/attack to gain mana is low dmg and not even useful at all .. widowmaker > low dmg n need to use with VQ passive to be useful, spined dart > need to actually hit target to get mana (dh can shoot into thin air n still gain hatred lolz) .. Haunt > dot attack which also return mana over time. So u see the dilemma here for WD?

Regarding LS & RD .. the ONLY way WD can obtain higher LS on 1h + mojo setup is to use Spirit Barrage/Pheb spell (3% xtra LS) .. Pheb hv an ok dmg but its useful for single targets only. Whereas other chars can use 1 type of spell/pasives (Gloom .. Bloodthrist passive) to increase LS while choosing another type of attack to gain from that increase LS while picking the suitable attack/spell to cater to any situation (DH > large pack use Bola@BL .. single unit/boss use Cluster@EB .. Barb > WW for crowd .. HoTA for boss)

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post Jan 6 2013, 06:39 AM

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QUOTE(Azurues @ Jan 6 2013, 04:24 AM)
somebody link me a good and strong witch doctor that can farm maybe MP5 and above?

i duno what skill built to use sia

items also duno wan stay with zunimassa full set or mempo + other item to increase my dps
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i regularly do key runs on mp5-7 efficiently with minimal deaths.
With regards to gear setup, 1st of all it depends if you are 1h+mojo @ 2h (skorn) user. For 1h+mojo using low mana spell such as splinters@ghost bomb .. stack as much ias u can bcos u wont hv problem with mana (tal's armor + mempo + lacuni + witching hour). However if you are 2h user & Bears is your main dmg dealer ... u want minimal ias as possible (more ias = faster u run out of mana .. 0 mana = 0 dps) .. instead u want to stack on crit chance to make full use of Skorn high CHD. Bear in mind that to survive high mp & deal with RD packs u need Life Steal on your 2h wpn. Zuni full set works best with 2h setup since the +20 mana regen helps with spamming more bears.

This is my skill setup/build for mp5 and above using 2h wpn (Skorn with LS):

Left Mouse Button: Corpse Spiders/Widowmakers (mainly used for mana regen)
Right Mouse Button: Zombie Charger/Zombie Bears (main dmg dealer .. great at clearing large pack)
Keyboard 1: Spirit Walk/Honored Guest (multiple use ... mana regen, getting out of sticky situation, spam bears w/out getting dmg reflect)
Keyboard 2: Grasp of the Dead/Unbreakable Grasp (some dmg over time but main purpose is to keep mobs in one place so that its easy to hit using Bears)
Keyboard 3: Hex/Jinx (crowd control .. hexed unit get 20% more dmg ... great at killing tough elite boss @ key wardens)
Keyboard 4: Gargantuan/Bruiser (tanker + stun keep target in place to hit with Bears)
Passive 1: Vision Quest (sync with widowmaker to get 30% mana regen)
Passive 2: Spirit Vessel (2nd set of life to make sure u dont get 1-shotted)
Passive 3: Blood Ritual (spell will cost less mana so can spam Bears more)

Additional: For solo gameplay its adviseable to use Templar for 2nd Tanker (u dont need zdogs) .. equip him with Azurewrath + Star of Azkaranth amulet will enable him to freeze target most of the time (combination of Templar freeze + Garg stun .. provides u with 2 good tankers that can control mobs) .. Stormshield make him survive better . puzzle ring give more gobs (since templar is melee he get hits all the time so more chance of gob spawn from puzzle ring) .. Vitality Hellfire ring will give him huge health boost & u get xp bonus too. For relic get high vit + block chance + armor/all resist.

This build is pretty balance between survivability & damage. If u need to do speed farming for xp/gold/item on lower mp .. its better to use Gruesome Feast/Grave Injustice Combo + Soul Harvest to get huge dps boost .. Jaunt+Stalker for fastest MS .. Circle of Life+Sacrifice/Pride for free zdogs & elite killer/instant mana topup .. Acid Rain as main attack to 1-shot large group of white mobs.

I hvnt use 1h+mojo setup for quite some time now .. but if u need a good build for it .. i will equip myself with my socketed EF + mojo and try do some key runs using it .. will post a build for 1h+mojo later if need be.

Link to my Witch Doctor

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post Jan 6 2013, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(Azurues @ Jan 6 2013, 03:40 PM)
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nice built bro  thumbup.gif

your equipment mostly got health and gold extra pickup radius somemore  sweat.gif
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hehe thanks smile.gif

if u use 1h + thing of the deep mojo u dont need pickup radius on other gears ... but since im using 2h i hv to get pickup radius on some of my other gears so that i can do speed farming efficiently ... lotsa gold just vacuum in lolz biggrin.gif

health is important if u going to do high mp .. 40-45k minimum .. getting 50k would be safer especially when facing tough elite packs or when doing ubers .. equally as important is your armor (3.5 - 4k recommended) also get high all resist (600 min .. the higher the better) .. personally i stack physical resist & some melee reduction% so i can tank better & deal with RD packs without losing too much health.
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post Jan 8 2013, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(HenryLow @ Jan 8 2013, 10:35 AM)
finally i got 20 Pickup Radius liao...

can vacuum liao ni...

Gecko & lksing78, ytd nice game...

i need more DPS... sad.gif
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haha mp9 ubers with 3 WD + 1 DH .. i was worried we hit enrage lolz .. but sky wd is so powderful it was a success .. i had to lose inna pants and use rare pants to get vit up to 63k lolz .. we shud try 4 WD uber party next time
i oso need dps boost .. 1.4k LS Skorn will cost me a fortune sad.gif
QUOTE(metalfreak @ Jan 8 2013, 10:46 AM)
Thank you so much! I printed this lolz really  I'm a witch doctor noob
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hehe yw .. its not the best build but after try n error .. i find dat build pretty balanced and quite fast to do high mp with minimal deaths ... for speed farm & para lvling ask Henry .. he now sifu of speed runs tongue.gif

QUOTE(lksing78 @ Jan 8 2013, 11:33 AM)
Nvm ...I don mine ...cause WD have a lot of buff and status effect to mobs..i like  thumbup.gif
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haha u like to see white oink (sry my bad hehe) running around & shoot like machine gun when voodoo is on biggrin.gif

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post Jan 9 2013, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jan 9 2013, 03:04 PM)
Let's talk about bears and suicide dogs build.

What are the gears we need and the skill setup.

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Personally i hvnt tried 0cd dogs build .. i've only tried reduced cd zdog (giyua + homunculus + grasp + tribal rites passive) .. few things i noticed:
1) using reduced cd zdog gear will result it lower dps (homunculus vs ukh, giyua vs vision/mempo, grasp vs rare/hf rings)
2) sacrifice dmg will be also much lower as a result
3) in PvE (non ubers) time taken for zdog to "hug" intended target cant be outright controlled (as opposed to aiming using other spell) ... the fastest way i found to get zdog close to intended target is to cast a bit far from mobs (avoiding zdog to engage non intended targets) then SW as close as u can to intended target so ur zdog will "teleported" next to it (u need to be at quite a distant for the zdogs to be tele)
4) pros: huge health replenish/healing (24k) .. free health globes for party members

The way i see it 0cd build is useful/easier to use n target in ubers (benefit party as a whole i,e health globes) .. MAYBE will be imba in PvP

Gears for 0cd:
- Homunculus: max 20 sec cd
- Visage of Giyua: max 9 sec cd
- Mara's Kaleidoscope: max 8 sec cd
- Skull Grasp: max 7 sec cd
- Stone of Jordan: max 8 sec cd
Tribal Rites passive will give 11.25 sec cd

Base cd for summon zdog is 45 sec however bear in mind that it takes 2 casts & animation frames for those are roughly: sacrifice+explosion (4th dog exploded) = 1,12 seconds (figures taken from a wd player findings in another forum). Also u hv to take into account the travel time taken for the zdog to engage/hug intended target.
If u take into account 1 sec casting and Jaunt (3 sec) ... getting 4/5cd is sufficient to constantly use zdog/sac. Basically after using tribal rites, u need another 30 sec cd from other gears.
The highest dps obtainable is if u dont use Homunculus but 20 sec cd is pretty huge. Giyua is pretty decent to use since it gives AR + high intel + mana regen, So is Mara since it has fixed main stat + AR + 3 random rolls (can get trifecta if u r rich lolz) .. SoJ also wont compromise your real dps too much.
Easiest combo is Homunculus + Giyua but it will compromise your total dps. Imho best combo would be Giyua + Mara + SoJ + Grasp

Skill setup:
Must hv active skill would be summon zdog/final gift & sacrifice/for the master. For passive skill, Tribal Rites & Zombie Handler.
Other useful skills, perhaps Grasp of the Dead/Unbreakable Grasp (to keep target in place) .. Wall of Zombies/Unrelenting Grip could also be useful to slow down enemy & stop enemy from getting close to u while making it easier for zdog to hug target.

Anyways .. current price of reduce zdog cd is ridiculously high which makes it a huge investment to even consider (for me at least). For those who want to give it a try can spend a reasonable budget by getting Homunculus & Giyua (2 of the cheapest reduce zdog cd gears) b4 depleting your bank balance on mara/soj.

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post Jan 10 2013, 05:59 AM

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QUOTE(whyseej00 @ Jan 10 2013, 02:02 AM)
The Mara and SoJ pages are so long....it's like finding a needle in a haystack as you need to hover on EACH item.

Other than Giyua, you can have rare helm for the 9 sec cd. I think I picked up one but the other stats are rubbish though.

Sample: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Bata-2162/hero/810700

Pretty high paper DPS of 166K
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Paper DPS is the key word here
That setup have lots of ias gears: 9%(gloves) + 9%(TWH) + 9%(Tal's Chest) + 9%(Lacuni)
Those ias gears are the main reason for the high paper dps BUT ask yourself this .. does Sacrifice benefit from ias? afaik low mana primary attacks like Splinters & Ghost Bomb do benefit from ias .. i dont see how ias can increase Sac damage tho.
Stacking avg dmg is the way to go if u r using Sacrifice to obtain the most real dps.
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idk about other players experience using Skorn & Bears as main dmg dealer on high mp but in my case .. the most important thing is to ensure u always hv mana to keep spamming bears ... as long as u hv mana u will hv steady stream of bears delivering high dmg (more so for crits) .. during Ubers even on mp10 i dont go OOM as long as i manage my mana well i.e always keep VQ up (just throw 1 widowmaker then back to spamming bears), when mana @ health dip below 25% i will pop SW/HG to hv 2 sec of invulnerability + mana regen. Minimum of 40% CC is required to ensure u crit most of the time .. its those crit dmg that replenish your health pool fast. Stacking ias to get faster attack using bears is not recommended as u will run out of mana faster. My build gets mana regen just from Zuni full set, VQ passive, a lil bit from widowmaker hit & Blood Ritual passive (to reduce mana cost of bears) .. i prolly shud try get a SoJ with bears reduce cost to make it more efficient.
However if u use 1h+mojo it will be more practical stacking ias as base 1h wpn speed is alrdy fast so u prolly do dmg at a faster rate using widowmaker & bears whenever u hv mana. For 2h user like me, widowmaker is just to keep VQ up (i dont even depend on mana return from widowmaker hits or its dmg) .. keeping a constant stream of bears provide the best dmg output imho.
Anyways i like to point out that to be able to stand in middle of fight (while spamming bears) and take some hits without dying too fast, its best to stack physical resist & some melee reduction% .. elemental dmg such as mortars, arcane sentry, molten etc u need to do some kiting and use SW to get out of tight position.
To answer Aleune's question .. i stopped using JF passive ever since i switch to 2h (used it back when i use EF + ToTD) .. for ubers n high mp key runs i use VQ, BR & SV .. low mp speed farming i switch to VQ, GF, GI.

@Henry
I've used the freeze build in Ubers b4 and i think it will work on mp6 n below ... for mp7 and above ur dps is too low (due to using Azurewrath) to do any real dmg & u will be doing freeze with vry low dmg output. However the freeze build make u almost "untouchable" lolz

My thoughts regarding 4 WD doing mp10 ubers:
- all 4 WD must be able to do burst dmg using Bears
- since no barb @ monk to tank .. all WD use garg/bruiser bcos i think 4 garg doing stun will be the best tanker .. restless giant will give more dmg but the cooldown is too long.
- 3 WD use slamdance (1 min of dps boost total with 1 min cooldown) & another WD use Hex/Jinx to keep Kulle preoccupied ... instead of killing Kulle 1st .. its best to kill SB 1st since hard to stay within slamdance AoE to be used on Kulle (he moves n teleports). 1h+mojo users might want to try use SB/Pheb to dps SB (to counter against SB's RD)

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post Jan 11 2013, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(MightySmiter @ Jan 11 2013, 10:08 AM)
hi guys, what do you fellow WDs feel about increased attack speed? does it just increase paper dps? does it increase my minion attackspeeed?

im actually running a build whereby my "hounds of hell" are used as mini-tanks + minor dps.
not really a fan of the 0 zombie dog build as i find it frustrating when the dogs dont group up correctly or find their own mobs, so when i sacrifice, the damage isnt really 1000% as calculated on paper tongue.gif

Heres my profile, any sifus here also can suggest what to upgrade next would be greately appreciated
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If most of the time u use Ghost Bomb to deal dmg & only on ocassion use Bears for elite pack .. there's no harm to stack more ias on your gears .. GB will benefit from more ias but using bears with high ias will drain your mana super fast .. so imho available gear upgrades for u wont be cheap hehe
Try to get full zuni set .. +20 mana regen from full set bonus will help u spam more bears .. zuni vision will give lots of health & bigger mana pool .. pox will give u AR + CHD
The upgrades i would recommend to get most ias & still maintain zuni full set:
- Get Tal's chest with either high vit roll @ AR roll (quite expensive for AR roll) .. u gain more ias & elemental dmg bonus from 2 Tal set
- Zuni Vision with CC, Zuni Pox with CC @ IAS (trifecta will cost a bomb), Zuni Skull with CC + reduced Bears skill
- Lacuni with CC to get ias & 24% MS
- u might also change Jousting Mail to a high armor rare pants with 1xx intel, 2xx vit, 7x AR, 2 sock .. since u r not using RoT @ Acid Rain, LoH from Jousting Mail wont benefit u much.

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post Jan 14 2013, 05:25 AM

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QUOTE(jstndng @ Jan 13 2013, 08:07 PM)
anyone here do gearing service? for wd
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what do u mean by "gearing service" actually?
tips/suggestion on how to gear wd?
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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jan 14 2013, 08:01 AM)
I also need kind advice.. to build a WD for fast farming A3 MP0-1, how much the cost?
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There's 2 options to consider, either 1h+ mojo @ 2h setup. Personally I'm leaning towards 2h setup as its slightly cheaper (buying just one 2h wpn compared to 1h & a mojo) plus 2h setup will offer more dmg if u plan to do speed farming on low mp.

Either way .. aim to get 3 piece of zuni set (for intel & AR bonus, mana regen bonus wont be a big advantage on low mp games)
- Zuni Trail provides 12% MS & dps boost (AR roll is the most expensive.. try to get physical resist@armor & pickup radius if u're going 2h .. MF@GF roll is also useful if u're low para lvl)
- Zuni Vision provides more health & mana (CC roll is the best but expensive .. try get 2xx intel, for the random roll get mana regen @ increase critical chance to Acid Cloud)
- Zuni Pox provides AR & CHD (trifecta cost a bomb, CC@ias roll quite expensive .. for the 3 random roll consider physical resist if u alrdy get them on other gears, LoH, Life% is also nice as it will stack up with the one on Vision)
- Zuni Marrow provides AR (best roll is reduced dmg from elites ... reduced dmg from melee would also work, so will armor @ physical res)
Things to consider: str roll > dex roll as str will add armor which enable u take more hits. Trail & Vision is pretty cheap these days .. Pox & Marrow can be slightly more expensive depending on the rolls u get on those.

Other legendary gears to consider:
- Tyreals Might .. personally i use this for my own speed farming as it gives MS (so i dont need lacuni @ inna pants to get 24 MS) and most importantly it boost ur real dps (not char sheet dps) considerably due to its %dmg against demons & %dmg against elites (Act 3 is 70-80% demons) .. get 19x intel (2xx roll is more expensive), at least 2 sockets & 10-15% dmg against demons.
- Visage of Giyua .. a single item that can give u high AR & most importantly high CC .. go for CC roll + CC to Acid Cloud (10% min CC after u combine both .. max CC obtainable is 14%)
- Sever if ure going 1h+mojo setup for that high %dmg against demons .. open socket is best roll to get .. LoH would be another roll to consider.
- Sun Keeper is another option for 1h+mojo setup for its high MF & %dmg against elites ... get at least 9xx dps .. random roll to consider same as Sever.

2h setup:
Get a high dps Skorn (at least 13xx) with high CHD (150% min) & Bleed Chance .. u dnt need LS on low mp .. LoH however is good to hv but u can easily stack LoH on other gears.
Use Giyua to get high CC ... u can 1-shot entire pack of white mobs using Acid Rain with high CC .. u need xtra CC from Giyua since u lose CC from mojo.
U need to get pickup radius on 3 gears (min of 6 PR each) .. rare shoulder, rare gloves & rare bracers is my recommendation for cheapest budget.

1h setup:
Thing of the Deep mojo will give u +20 pickup radius so its a must .. get at least 200 avg dmg & vit roll if possible
Use Tyreal to get extra dmg.
For weapon .. either go with Sever @ Sun Keeper but if you're going for rare 1h .. get a Spear (low attack speed will ensure u wont burn mana fast & it has high min-max dmg) .. open socket & base CHD is a must .. u wont need LS on low mp but LoH is good to get.
Stack as much avg dmg on jewelry

Build/Skill Setup:
The best build for speed farming on low mp imho is Acid Rain (to clear large pack of white mobs fast) with Jaunt+Stalker (for max mobility) & CoL+Sacrifice (for free zdog + free mana + elite pack killer) .. Grueseome Feast + Grave Injustice passive combo will ensure cooldown on skill while providing mana regen + dps boost.
I already posted something regarding this farming build few pages back if ure interested to read it.

p/s: i hv an extra set of full Zuni + some other weapons/mojo etc if someone is interested in getting them ... feel free to browse AH 1st to see how much u can get those for then offer me a price smile.gif

This post has been edited by Gecko: Jan 14 2013, 09:32 AM
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post Jan 14 2013, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jan 14 2013, 09:55 AM)
then you need the ZR reduction -12 on mojo, max mana on head & knife brows.gif

@Gecko how many LoH is needed for MP3? 2k LoH ok ka?
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If u r using RoT, Acid Rain or any other DoT (damage over time) WD spell .. arnd 1k LoH is sufficient for fast health replenish .. however bears do not benefit from LoH .. so if u encounter RD packs .. use Bears only when SW is up and RoT in between .. mp3 n below shud be no problem (i think with new changes to RD in 1.07, LS is not so important for WD unless ure building a tank/panzer build). On higher mp (7 & above) once u get ur dps to 100k n above .. LS will shine using bears .. u can deal massive dmg & at the same time leech back lots of health.

QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jan 14 2013, 11:51 AM)
i need Vodoo, offhand, chest, 2 ring, boot, bracer, pant (maybe will use my Inna for MS)... a lot  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

gear i have are weapon, glove, amulet.

weapon (mace=spear as guide from Gecko) and glove (CC, AR, Vit) i use on barb, amulet from monk (LoH, avg dmg, cc)

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high end Zuni set (vision with cc, pox with cc/ias, marrow with 2xx vit, trail with AR) can reach billions but low end Zuni set to just do speed farming on low mp will only cost few millions .. dont spend more than 20m imho. As ive said i got a spare full zuni set if ure interested biggrin.gif
Voodoo Mask i highly suggest get a low intel, mid cc + high cc to acid cloud Visage of Giyua .. for low lvl mp Acid Rain is really great .. budget around 5-7m for that Giyua @ u can use Vision with cc to acid cloud roll (cc roll on Vision can be expensive compared to cc to acid cloud) if u dont use Tyreals
Offhand .. ofc u need ToTD if going 1h+mojo .. can get a decent 1 below 5m
Boots .. Zuni Trail is a must .. 3-5m max for Trail without AR.
Bracers .. any rare with CC, intel/vit, AR ... wont cost much i think
Pants ... Jousting Mail for LoH n some xtra MF (i hv plenty of unused JM pants too lolz)
Ring .. HF ring + low end Unity shud be good

All my recommendations are based on ur need to do low mp farming .. for higher mp farming its a different story altogether hehe
Add me in-game @ Hulkie#6526 & i can show u those unused WD items i hv smile.gif

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QUOTE(cheer83 @ Jan 14 2013, 03:21 PM)
Zombie dog build isnt cheap i think, coz i notice something like skull grasp with reduce cooldown of zombie dog all very expensive 1 even roll with dex or stg . 70m budget with me sure way not enuf  laugh.gif
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I think its arnd 100m minimum to get 0cd dog gears biggrin.gif

Checkout Turknukem's 0cd dog mp10 solo gameplay where he combines it with Scoundrel freeze.


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QUOTE(cheer83 @ Jan 14 2013, 08:26 PM)
can zombie bear hybrid with suicide dog ?
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in theory it can be done but quite hard since requirement for each build is different:
suicide dog favors ias & doesnt need mana/mana regen
zombie bear doesnt need ias & needs mana/mana regen

QUOTE(jstndng @ Jan 14 2013, 11:09 PM)
im an ex wd user but would love to build a zombie bear set so guys could u give me a bit of tips wad to avoid n which stuff to stress on? previous post when i ask bout gearing service meaning i give u gold n u gear for me from AH with service fee tat u charge. not an expert in AH anyway.
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It would help if u give more details such as:
- which mp (highest) u plan to play/do farming
- what kind of budget u hv to spend
- u plan to go 1h+mojo @ 2h

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