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post May 29 2013, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ May 29 2013, 09:20 AM)
Is a Manajuma's Carving Knife 1.025k dps, 50% Dmg, 18+ Int, 100 cd, 2.90ls & os doable?

Note: ...btw. iirc, I'd noticed a spear that has 1.2k, cd, ls and os listed in the ah b4.

How's about Zunimassa's Marrow, ...should I get a specimen with vit>250 and (%life or armor)? I'm thinking of dropping armor and focusing heavily on pumping vit (and %life) to attain hp > 100k.
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Carving Knife is doable if u plan to use it as a set (especially if u stack intel, the set bonus will come in handy) the other thing is u can get very high chd on Carving Knife. However the cons of using it are: low min dmg & higher aspd. Personally i prefer a rare spear for its low aspd & high min dmg. (also u have more option on what mojo to use with spear, ToTD if u want PUR @ Ukh Serpent if u want high dps)

For Marrow, those with armor tend to be higher priced (maybe due to certain wiz build prefer it too). Most WD i know stack vit instead of armor (unless u plan to use Horrify-Frightening Aspect which will benefit high armor base) .. life% on Zuni Vision will definately favor stacking vit.

p/s: another viable option for Marrow is to get reduce dmg from elite affix & use with litany ring (this setup will restrict ur rings slot to litany + zuni pox .. if u need to use rare ring then u gotta use Zuni mojo to still get full set bonus w/out using Pox)

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post Jun 1 2013, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(denze87 @ Jun 1 2013, 11:43 AM)
i wanna upgrade my witchy,just dont know which one to upgrade to;

1:zuni vision + uhkapent
2:mempo + zuni string skull

please give me some opinion about it..

thanks for all the master of witchy

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@ option 3. Visage of Giyua (19x intel, 7x AR, 5-6% CC & WD skill of your choice) + Zuni String Skull

advantages:
Giyua provides AR (just like Mempo minus the "unwanted" ias), Mana regen (very important to WD) & bonus to WD skill
Zuni String of Skull provides Mana regen & BvE .. while still keeping 4 set bonus when not using Zuni Vision.

QUOTE(blackorange @ Jun 1 2013, 12:27 PM)
i got this SOJ, but dont know how i will benefit if i equip this.
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Lets say your paper dps is 100k (with current Unity equipped) .. changing to that SoJ will make ur paper dps becomes 79k but dmg against elites are boosted (30% - 4% x 79k) which is arnd 20.5k .. so u do basically arnd the same dmg to elites but less to normal mobs with SoJ. However bear in mind that it scales with higher dps (at a certain dps, SOJ will give u more dmg). SoJ also provide u with bigger mana pool.
That SoJ could easily be sold for hundred of mils in AH.

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post Jun 1 2013, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Jun 1 2013, 06:49 PM)
@Gecko

I think vision is better than guiya. No? Guiya gives more mitigation though.

But Guiya looks cooler.

Anyway DPS and cost wise, unity gives more compared to a pox so if u drop vision, you have to go with pox that might lower your DPS. Unity have high average damage and BvE.

I like they gearing of WD, I just hate the way bears were designed.

My two cents.
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Both are better than Mempo for WD .. its a matter of gearing choice & what primary dmg dealer skill ur WD use i suppose.
pros of Vision: Higher Intel, Life% (a build that stacks vit would benefit from this), Max Mana (better for constant high mana spell such as Bears), a part of Zuni set so can use Ukh mojo which offers the most boost to dps (highest avg dmg possible + fixed cc so the 2 random rolls can be double intel/vit + life%)
pros of Giyua: All Resist, Mana regen (good for build that focus on chanelling skills) & bonus to WD Skill (its a must for 0dog build ... i also think it can benefit bats build too)

yeah .. pox become a must-use if u drop Vision .. Unity does gv more dps, need a well rolled pox to compete (since it hv 3 random roll) but the price sweat.gif .. ehp wise pox + giyua will provide a lot of mitigation (both hving fixed AR roll).

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post Jun 7 2013, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Jun 7 2013, 11:54 AM)
Thks for the insightful opinion, ...just managed to pick up a Zunimassa's Vision from AH and am looking for a GG Zuni String of Skulls but still pondering on the selection of either Zombie Charger (for PvE) or Spirit Barrage (for PvP).

I've 2 other subpar zuni items (in my stash) to get its 4-piece set bonus and then, more indepth testing will commence.
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I would go for Spirit Barrage on Zuni Mojo cos its good for both PvP & PvE and the fact it boost dmg as compared to reduction cost for Zombie Charger (need a 2nd gear with reduction to be really effective). Tbh SB dmg is almost as good as Bears altho it wont hit as many targets as Bears .. 2 runes that are useful for SB are: Well of Souls (for xtra dmg) & The Spirit is Willing (for mana return). If u are alrdy using bats for AoE/close quarters dmg dealer,then SB can be used for ranged n single targets/leftover mobs.

I've been checkingt AH for few weeks for a decent Zuni String myself (250 avg dmg, 9%cc, vit & SB skill) but hvnt found 1 that fits my budget biggrin.gif

I'm curious about Manitou rune .. u use/summon it once then it will keep on shooting for 20 sec, does Rush of Essence (49 mana over 10 sec) procs each time it shoot (for the whole 20 sec duration) or only once when u initially use/summon it?

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post Jun 14 2013, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Jun 14 2013, 12:15 PM)
hi guys, what is the build for 0 CD zombie dogs ? Not sure If I got the right gear yet but I did find a visage of guiyua that reduces zombie dog CD...cant remember other gear but i would love to try.

I saw a player that kept exploding up the dogs. thanks guys!
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The basis for 0cd zdog is to reduce the cooldown of summon zombie dogs to 0 so that u can keep spamming zummon zdog then sacrifice them. There are few ways to achieve this from certain gears:

- Tribal Rites passive: reduction 11 sec (u need to get another 34 sec from certain gears)
- Homunculus Mojo - max reduction 20 sec
- Visage of Giyua Voodoo Mask - max reduction 9 sec
- Stone of Jordan Ring - max reduction 8 sec
- Skull Grasp Ring - max reduction 7 sec
- Mara's Kaleidoscope Amulet - max reduction 8 sec

As u know the item with max roll always hv premium price tag compared to slightly lower ones so getting a combination of slightly lower reduction will save u some gold. Most popular combination that will gv u 0 cd with good dps is Homunculus + Giyua + SoJ.

18 from Homunculus + 9 from Giyua (max on Giyua bcos its the cheapest of all 3 altho those with 6%cc can also get very pricey) + 7 from SoJ (get at least 27% BvE on SoJ) will give u the 34 sec needed. U can mix n try get the 34 sec on various combination depending on ur budget. Grasp is not often used since its hard to find a good Grasp with 7cd + cc + intel roll .. same case with Mara's (finding a trifec Mara with 7-8cd is almost impossible so ure better off using a rare ammy or tal ammy for higher dps output).

Other things that helps:
-stack bonus to globe will be helpful since the zdog will leave behind plenty of globes after being sacrificed (using Final Gift rune).
-Lifesteal on weapon can help against RD but not 100% necessary as u are constantly healed from Sacrifice - For the Master (4 x 6202) & all the health globes left behind by the zdogs.
-stacking ias helps spamming (faster animation)
-this build is mid-range (meaning u need to be close to target) so a decent EHP is required ... the norm is to stack as high vit as possible to avoid 1-shot.

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post Jun 17 2013, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Jun 17 2013, 01:30 PM)
I passed wrong ring to my enchan. Need to balik and test how much dmg I'll get for my WD.
my WD has more armor and AR compared to my wizard LOL. Rojak betul tongue.gif

BTW, sifu....are you guys using SkorN with LS for farming? I'm still using offhand with 20yards pick up. Damn nice when partying.
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Depend on ur build @ what mp ure farming on
LS Skorn is most commonly used by Bears/Firebats build on high mp as the high base dmg + LS = good survivability .. plus the slow attack speed means u wont drain ur mana too fast.
However 1h + mojo setup will work too as long as u minimise ias on other gears & use slow 1h wpn such as spear/mace ... bear/bat reduction gears will also help with spamming w/out going OOM.
I remember my WD early days of using ToTD + Sunkeeper to farm gold/leg on mp1 biggrin.gif
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post Jul 25 2013, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(chitchat @ Jul 25 2013, 05:03 PM)
Guys need some advice, i am a wiz player and thinking to start another character, due to i am a poorfag i dont really have much gold to gear another character so i was thinking is it possible that i reuse my wiz gear for wd since both are int (beside the weapon and offhand of course). Is my wiz gear will be able to build a mp10 wd ? and what kind of build/skill the wd will use ?

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Re-using a cm wiz gears (ias based) for a WD is a bit tricky unless ure building a low mana attack (such as Splinters @ Ghost Bomb) as main dmg dealer. The more popular build for Wd however are CoB & Bears build which rely more on low ias, high mana regen & high intel (more so if u use Soul Harvest & Gruesome Feast).
4 piece Zuni gear is more suited for the common WD build as it offers large mana pool + high mana regen & good ehp.
IMO, from ur current wiz gear .. only these gears will work on WD: shoulders, belt, pants & perhaps bracers (bracers with AR will be better tho).
Try get a decent 4 piece Zuni (helm with 4-5 cc, chest with high vit, boots with AR & ring with 3-4 cc) ... stack intel & avg dmg instead of ias .. get a LS intel Skorn (much cheaper than getting a good 1h + mojo).

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