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 Witch Doctor Discussion v2, Who let the dogs OUT!

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post Jan 17 2013, 02:27 PM

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Best PVP skill

Haunt.
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post Jan 17 2013, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jan 17 2013, 02:32 PM)
Haunt might have killed you in few hits.
If Blizz change the damage taken, the whole game play will be changed.

Personally, I would like to have a longer fight so that we see some spamming of various skills due to running out of resources/cool down.
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I kill the WD user then few seconds later i see this countless time.

YOU WERE KILLED BY someone with HAUNT.

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post Jan 18 2013, 04:45 PM

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I'm currently dueling against 3 zero CD c4 dogs WD. Anyone using that for PVP?
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post Jan 19 2013, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jan 19 2013, 02:31 PM)
Not for 1-shot PVP game, not now.
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Actually tbh the PVP duelings aren't all one shots. I was dueling with wKkay and Skywavex, it was fun and you get funny moments. Is not easy to one shot and sure it happens sometimes but the rest of the time it was intense!!!!
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post Jan 19 2013, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jan 19 2013, 02:47 PM)
Do not run. Let them shoot.
You're down in 1-3 shots.

C4 dogs/bears are not really efficient in this situation.
It has to go with hex.
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what's wrong with down in 1-3 shots???

I mean i think games like counter strike is/was popular cuz it was fast paced and people love doing head shots.

Besides, balanced/no 1-3 shots games are boring man but yeah i know if u r on the receiving end is not fun.

p.s: Don't need imba gear to own with WD.
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post Jan 19 2013, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jan 19 2013, 02:56 PM)
I didn't say it's wrong.

I said C4 dogs is not good in this kind of gameplay.
Few reasons, C4 dog is not as fast as other skills. Why C4 dog?
C4 dogs are rather short range too. Likewise the bears.

I'd pick haunt/spiders/pets over C4.
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I was talking about PVP in general.

but yeah, c4 dogs aren't as effective as haunt.

Spirit walk -> sacrifice is not bad.

Oh yeah one more thing, haunt is homing right?
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post Jan 20 2013, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(Skywavex @ Jan 20 2013, 05:02 PM)
so, you're saying, WD is bad in pve and now blizz should nerf wd in pvp too and make it totally trashed ?
Its super annoying when you pig someone and that someone says " blizz should nerf CC from WD "
Then, when i Haunt someone and that someone says " geez that Haunt its OP blizz should nerf it "
When i use Pets to block them from attacking me, guess what they say..... ( you know it... )

No offense dude, just a pure let go from me.
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Hey sky,

CC is going to get nerF. I read it some where. It would be diminishing returns.

About haunt, u r right. it ain't entirely homing. I played with a WD today and his aim of haunt was let's say not so good. Haunt is a DoT spell am i right? and the main problem with Haunt atm is if the first instance it crits, the spell will crit the entire duration which imo i think is not right. Haunt mechanics should be re-work in a way that since it is a DoT spell, each instance of damage after the first instance is independent of whether the first instance crits or not.

Pets? lol. don't play with them la. I think is all about trying to adapt to your opponent.

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post Jan 20 2013, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(Skywavex @ Jan 20 2013, 05:58 PM)
CC is not going to get nerf, but CC is going to be IN USE with items that have CC reduction, at current moment, CC reduction items are not working in PTR.

What is for sure going to nerf is the damage dealing to every classes, so the battle will last a little longer smile.gif
Haunt isn't powerful if you're dealing with lower end wd gears with low crit chance. ( i have 54% crit chance in PVP with 198k dps unbuffed, now imagine if i am a SS DH, i sure still be able to 1 shot people. ) I personally don't think it crits the whole time, its very difficult to get people Haunted (DoT) most dmg deal is per shot, but because i keep spamming the skill, it just Haunts you more than once smile.gif
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i'm pretty sure CC is going to get diminishing returns.

I don't want a battle to last longer and let's say damage dealt is being nerF, it won't do any good because classes with tons of EHP is going to benefit.

Haunt crits the entire duration if you crit on the first instance. It has been discussed and confirmed on the forums after tons of testing.

what do you mean damage deal is per shot? My understanding is once someone's get Haunt (even if the caster doesn't spam), the spell locks on and goes on the entire duration.

and yeah, nothing is powerful if the person uses low end gears. Applies to all classes.
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post Jan 20 2013, 09:51 PM

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DoT attacks for WD does not stack. It overwrites. Happen to me a lot of times so i know. =D

Skorn + Haunt = I leave game =)
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post Jan 21 2013, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(cheer83 @ Jan 21 2013, 02:40 PM)
HEX for wd is the main problem for barb (only classes without cancel cc) , otherwise wd is not easy to kill barb , lol
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haha.. haunt cukup la but for those pay2win barbs like kongor yeah hex was funny man. The 150k HP WD own his 40b gold barb. =)

QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jan 21 2013, 02:41 PM)
WoTB?
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lol so duel every 2 mins after WOTB refreshes?
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post Jan 21 2013, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(cheer83 @ Jan 21 2013, 02:45 PM)
WOTB 2 minutes just for 1 kill ?  rclxms.gif
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rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

p.s: Aleune probably don't do PTR dueling so he doesn't know.
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post Jan 21 2013, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(Skywavex @ Jan 21 2013, 02:46 PM)
By the way guys, do you guys have any bad time against Strong Monks ?
i find them really tough to fight against especially when they got a shield and run extreamly fast and thunder you to death.

The way i find to deal with them is:

Once you see them, spam 1 or 2 spiders, when they're close to you, make sure you run (Cast spirit)because if he reaches you, they'll blind you and you won't be able to run even in the spirit mode.

So, cast spirit once they're alsmost at the range to blink attack you, run far away and spam another few spiders, force them to use their serenity. After your spirit ends, they know that's a fake "you" that they've been attacking, they'll look for you. This time, cast Hex before they reach you ! They definately will use their serenity this time to avoid hex.

RUN ! far far away, as they run much faster than you, once their serenity is gone. cast hex and do your job.

Beware of their side kicks, its extreamly deadly. also the bell.
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Monks? hmm.

I bring my boar companion and when they see me they try to SSS me but instead SSS my boar. So i just watch from the side and when they are done i cluster them. Bye bye.

Serenity?

Let them pop and run but keep a distance where can still see serenity effect. Once its off, strafe them and finish off with a cluster.

Since we DH deal burst dmg, high HP regen isn't a problem for us but high EHP is but that can be countered with high DPS. You probably had problems cuz their HP regen render haunt not so effective. =)
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post Jan 21 2013, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jan 21 2013, 02:51 PM)
Yes, I don't do PTR.
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why not? u gonna own with your WD man.
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post Jan 29 2013, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jan 29 2013, 12:24 PM)
I tried 1H weapon + mojo for bear build.

I had to revamp & change my gears for 3 reasons.

1) Bears don't like fast attack. Mana drains fast. 2H-Skorn + a 9% Witching hour is just nice for my build (1.09 attack speed)
2) 3% LS is not enough, especially when we encounter RD elites. To have more LS%, Skorn could be the only option.
3) Yes, low min damage on 1H weapon gives you lower damage, generally.
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roll a DH. problem solved.
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post Jan 29 2013, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(sandvillage @ Jan 29 2013, 02:30 PM)
Then your 85k C4 dog build, give how much damage generally...?

Currently my 1h + Mojo build, minimum giving me 500K to 1M damage...

Seems like need to change my gear... hmm wait till i hunt a skorn with LS lol

As of now, even with my current attack speed, took out PtV I ave no issue with mana so far...
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500k to 1M damage? Wow.

are u sure?

oh wait.. total damage or per bear??

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post Jan 29 2013, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(sandvillage @ Jan 29 2013, 05:05 PM)
I didnt get what you mean by total... you mean add up?

Yellow number per jump... Is that total or per hit?

The yellow number comes up is around 500k to 1m
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not possible.
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post Feb 20 2013, 06:43 PM

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I tried pvp with WD. I ran all emeralds except amethyst on pants. Epic fail 70k HP not enough at all.

But when switch to all amethyst and with my AR then can la.

Did this for one day only because the amethyst does not belong to me =)
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post Mar 6 2013, 03:19 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Mar 6 2013, 03:16 AM)
WD thread has been quiet without HenryLow and ahhoe80  tongue.gif

Good news for WD is, we are no longer the weakest among all heroes.
Our burst damage can be as good as monks and demon hunters (still not as close as Barb though).
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and you say that base on ghom mp10?
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post Mar 12 2013, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(Skywavex @ Mar 11 2013, 07:57 PM)
There are few things ima QQ ....
WDs are the slowest runner.
WDs are the slowest farmer.
Other than Wiz, WDs have the lowest EHP.

Damn it Blizz do something ! make us as tough as Barb !!
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+1 biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

but EHP wise, I think DH has the lowest la but we have Gloom to save our ass..
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post Apr 13 2013, 12:10 AM

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Gecko

Any idea how much does one health globe heal?

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