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SUS2890
post Apr 27 2013, 07:03 PM

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I have been talking to a few WD before I started leveling my WD. Pretty aware of the mana problem so a few suggested/talk to me about how to tackle it. Did some reading/digging as well and found some pretty solid information/specs that would give you close to infinite bear spam.

Active Skills:
Widowmakers
Zombie Bears
Spirit Walk: HG
SZD: Final Gift
Sac: Pride

Last Active Skill
BBV: BM OR
GotD: Death is Life OR
Mass Conf: Devolution

Passive:
GI, CoL, GF

I can't find the link where I read it so i'm writing from memory. Anyway IIRC, this build requires IAS. I think it was something in the 1.8-1.9 region.

PUR gears are mandatory as well.

Basically is pretty identical to CM wiz where you use GI to reset your cooldowns. CoL and the last active skill are used as mana battery. It was something like kill a dog and you get mana while you melt enemies your dog cool down reduces.

But as usual, the downside is not effective against single targets.

I'll do more digging. If this works, I might roll a WD as well since gears are identical to CM wiz.
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post May 6 2013, 02:49 AM

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WD Reporting in =)

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/SwSw-2890/hero/26992698

Nothing special, just messing around with the class and using archon gears on the WD

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post May 28 2013, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ May 28 2013, 03:50 PM)
...actually the Firebats convince me of WD true potential. Is SoJ functional for WD? and what type if useful.
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SOJ is BIS for WD.

Had a WD rolled till pl10 and gave up cuz the style is just weird. The bears are very annoying. Can't move in a straight line.



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post May 28 2013, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(Gecko @ May 28 2013, 04:35 PM)
If u mostly do solo .. hex would be a better choice than bbv .. bbv shines when u play coop cos it will benefit whole party members & make the xtra hp mobs gained from 4 player coop seems nothing  biggrin.gif
From my own personal experience playing my WD to PL100, i would say aspd only benefit certain types on build for WD especially those using low mana cost spells such as Spilnters @ Ghost Bomb ... i'm pretty sure with higher aspd u will drain mana faster when u r channeling .. unless ure using some mana regen passives/gears & bat reduction gears (soj, giyua), i think avg dmg will give u better dmg per mana used.. u might hit slower with low aspd but u will definately hit harder

I'm still trying to get hold of a good Zuni Mojo to replace my Zuni Vision (gonna use a Giyua with cc + bat reduction) so that i still get the full set bonus ... thinking of doing Bats using Spear + Mojo with bat reduction from SoJ & Giyua and see if its possible to channel for "free" (20 bats reduction + 20 mana regen from giyua n mojo + 20 from zuni set). My WD hv been hibernating ever since he reached PL100 .. time to wake him up and be a Batman  biggrin.gif

p/s: ive seen n read some "tanky" CoB builds using Sickle + Shield setup .... the drag from sickle is pretty handy while ure chanelling.
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Yeah. Had 4p Zuni with mojo instead of Pox. Went Unity + SOJ. Pretty sick damage for 160k unbuff WD but what annoys me was the bears. They need to learn to move in a straight line not sideways!!!!

I was doing some reading on bat SOJs, the EU peeps here says is not needed with proper AS and mana regen. But again, bat's damage is great but the range is pathetic.
The thing I like about WD is SoJ is pretty much mandatory and with mojo and unity u're looking at like at least 36% BvE.

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post May 28 2013, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ May 28 2013, 05:51 PM)
...can try Firebats and be the Batman!
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tried that too. pathetic range and knock backs, nightmarish breaks your channeling. Damage is insane yeah but is not all roses. I prefer CM =D
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post May 28 2013, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ May 28 2013, 05:56 PM)
...electrified and nightmarish disrupts cm freeze wizard too.
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not with proper bubble placement =D
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post May 28 2013, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ May 28 2013, 06:03 PM)
Is your wizard able to play with Glass Cannon (instead of Evocation) w/o dying farming for de in VoTA and BCM maps? Just asking, no offence.
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BCM?

I don't think so. I'll give it a try later but i think with glass canon those snakes are gonna be a problem. Invi and stab you before you can freeze them. I think with GC, might just die. CM procs are so random that sometimes still on CD and you see half your life gone but sometimes i'm able to catch all of them.

oh btw, those blazing guardian's damage got nerf i think.
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post May 28 2013, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ May 28 2013, 06:09 PM)
BCM = Black Canyon Mines where the Sand Wasps are prevalent.
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bubble stop their missiles. I tried it on desolate sands. Should not be a problem if u don't get hit. =D

Anyway, i'm tying electrify now instead of bubble. GC damage boost is a lot but i'm low on armor. I'll give it a try later.
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post May 28 2013, 06:31 PM

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Please don't use skorns. Is just a barb weapon. 1h + Mojo looks so freaking cool on the WD.

Zuni string of skulls is just so sexy on the WD. Best part is there is BvE on it and bear reduction. Black Axe + Skulls is best imo.

Anyway, SoJ + Zuni Boots + Tal Amulet = 22% elemental bonus damage. I think average damage + cc + chd makes the WD a beast. Oh well, I sold my archon gears that were on my WD. can't really show but just sharing my experience.
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post May 29 2013, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ May 29 2013, 09:20 AM)
Is a Manajuma's Carving Knife 1.025k dps, 50% Dmg, 18+ Int, 100 cd, 2.90ls & os doable?

Note: ...btw. iirc, I'd noticed a spear that has 1.2k, cd, ls and os listed in the ah b4.

How's about Zunimassa's Marrow, ...should I get a specimen with vit>250 and (%life or armor)? I'm thinking of dropping armor and focusing heavily on pumping vit (and %life) to attain hp > 100k to accommodate Blood Ritual's unique requirement.
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1. Get a black axe or spear. It is much better and cheaper. You get to benefit more from the elemental damage bonus from SoJ, Zuni Boots and Tal Ammy.

2. Black Weapon + String of Skulls combo is better IMO. There is BvE on SoS.

3. Pox is overrated. Unity > Pox IMO.

4. Stack average damage. Can get them from Tal Ammy and Unity.

5. Armor on Marrow is BIS.

6. You need PUR on one piece of gear. I recommend on Zuni Boots or TWH belt.

7. Zuni Vision is BIS for WD.

8. SoJ is BIS for WD.

9. No need AS on gloves. Max CC and CHD.

10. Good luck.
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post May 29 2013, 11:31 AM

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Oh btw, made a mistake.

Price wise on PUR pieces.

1. Zuni with Armor more expensive than Zuni with PUR

2. TWH with Armor more expensive than TWH with PUR

Basically Armor is expensive so best place to get PUR without losing EHP and Armor is VILE WARD.
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post Jun 1 2013, 06:49 PM

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@Gecko

I think vision is better than guiya. No? Guiya gives more mitigation though.

But Guiya looks cooler.

Anyway DPS and cost wise, unity gives more compared to a pox so if u drop vision, you have to go with pox that might lower your DPS. Unity have high average damage and BvE.

I like they gearing of WD, I just hate the way bears were designed.

My two cents.
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