I wanted to rotate myself then the forummers last time say need to rotate at shop becoz they need to balance the tyre or something. So i forgot about rotating it.

Also the tyre pressure how the tyre look is important? I mean you pump until tyre is all flat or let the bottom bump out abit due to weight on the bottom?


I prefer abit less air because too much make the tyre bumpy and less grip.


This post has been edited by advocado: Nov 20 2012, 10:25 PM

Rotating car tyres doesn't need to do alignment unless you went into a big hole that causes the alignment out. Tyre balancing is needed when tyre is off from the rim.

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Added on November 20, 2012, 10:28 pmless air means more friction, more grip and not bumpy but wobble.

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Added on November 20, 2012, 10:33 pmI'll always change 4 tyres together and all my tyres last for 50K to 55K KM.

This post has been edited by ToyotaKaki: Nov 20 2012, 10:33 PM

Again as I said before, it's not true that tire rotation always have to be followed by alignment. Those who said that don't know anything, or they are workshop owners who want to make more money! Anyway it's up to you if you want to believe me or not, it's your money after all so do what ever you think is right for you.

In terms of tire pressure, well the look of it can give you some indication but not enough. Normally the tread pattern have to lie pretty flat on the road.
If you prefer less pressure then that explains why your front is worn out already on the sides.

So rotate also no need weight balancing, just new tyres need weight balancing right?

So as long as the wheels are straight there is no harm doing rotation between front & rear, but better swap left to left right to right right?

I always scare pump too much air until the tyre like wanna explode.

check ur tyre pressure every week bro...maintain to recommended pressure..

read the tyre wall. it indicate the tyre max pressure.

No la, i just mean when i pump more air it looks like wanna explode only. But u pump more air you get good grip & smooth ride?

Yes, surely no need balancing ever if just to rotate. Balancing is needed if you experience vibration in your steering when doing certain speeds. If you dismantle tire from the rim, then you will surely need to re-balance once you install the tire back.

Yes, as long as your steering is still straight then no need alignment even when you do rotation. Tire rotation depends on what tire you use.
If non-directional then you can go criss-cross or X pattern first (rear right-front left and rear left-front right), then the next rotation is just front-rear without changing left-right. Then next rotation follow X pattern again.
If your tires are directional, then you can only do front-rear and not left-right, unless you dismantle your tires and change the assignment to the rims from left to right and vice versa.

If you pump too much then grip will be compromised and the ride will be harsh. But under inflating also may loose you grip even though seems more comfortable.

Every 10,000 km I always rotate my tires, do balancing and alignment on all 4 corners. Even though you feel the car is going straight, the alignment may have been off after 10,000 km, especially if you go through potholes.

An nowadays with rainy weather, there a lot more potholes.

Pump ur Front Tyre At 225/230 and the Rear 210/215.

My persona clocked 51k km

Continental Chau Chibye 1 tayar. should be same like yours

front still got about 30% even wear

rear still got 20% left. even wear oso. <but leaking air like mad. Sometimes no leak, sometimes leak till flat.

Done rotation around 25k km. normally pumped 240 at front and 210 at back.

Tis will be my last continental set. Unless i want to do some serious drifting then i use this tayar lor.

guys, if u have a full size spare tyre, u will include them in the rotation too?

Yes I would if I'm still using the std rims though.

But won't a new spare tyre put into use means one side is off in terms of traction because i is brand new 1 is worn?

Not really significant difference if rotation every 10K km. If you rotate when tires already quite used up like you now, then it will give some impact. The reason I include the spare is so that the spare rubber will not get brittled and this prolongs life of all 5 and wear more evenly for all 5. Of course when all 5 worn out then have to change all at once. But that's just my personal preference since I prefer all my tires are the same. But if I'm using after market rims like my daily car now, then of course I leave the spare in the trunk forever.

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Added on November 21, 2012, 3:01 pmMe personally I don't do wheel alignment based on mileage used. I only do when I feel it doesn't feel right anymore, and it can be even up to few years or 20-30k km before I send for alignment. Because often the workshops actually misalign/don't do properly which causes the steering to be worse/not straight anymore! I'm also a bit picky on this so once I got the right feel, I'm reluctant to have it change unless it already feels not right anymore.
Same also with balancing, if it's not vibrating up to 180-200kph, then I never send for balancing. But for me normally balancing will be a bit more often than alignment cuz the balance can change sooner when you lock during braking or often whack corners hard which causes the tires to get worn out faster. Also often the balancing weights come off.

This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Nov 21 2012, 03:01 PM

Persona spare tyre is the small type, not the full size tyre.

recommended at at least 32 / 230 pressure to last for 1 month...

anyway, most of tires can handle 45 / 400 pressure... no worry...

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This post has been edited by h4dRi: Nov 27 2012, 07:47 AM