i have both canon s100, olympus xz1 and panasonic lx3(sold) if mentioning s100 fit yours budget and photos or video are your priorities , go for it, NOTHING in any PHONE can beat either s100, lx5 nor xz1,
if u want to be a social media whore, snap and upload straight,don't bother on printing, smart phone is easier, for me i travel with my notebook, i shoot with my s100 or xz1, then copy into my notebook, and upload them if i want to or back it up.

Phone camera can never be substitute for an actual camera now around the same budget...maybe in the future where they cramp a phone into a proper compact camera like s100, those that stand by the theory of phone camera these days as superior than a dedicated camera, mostly are ignorance of how to tell a quality photos to badly taken one, or just plain too poor to afford a dedicated camera.

Man, you've got a lot to learn when it comes to cameras and photography so please refrain from misdirecting people who may not know all the details. Below I have pointed out some factors that you have left out in your argument..

So again it comes back to what you want to do with the camera. If you want to get good image quality and have control over things like external flashes, then there's nothing like a full specs DLSR.

If you just want to snap away and share on social media sites, then a smartphone will be the most straightforward solution.

go buy Pentax K-01. come with 18-55 and 55-200 or whatever 2 lenses.

price? RM 1.5k or so. still cheaper than all the high end smart phones where their camera couldn't even come close.

left over RM 700 - 800 can use to buy some decent smart phone.

No matter how good your phone camera is, to me, equip yourself with just a phone camera instead of a decent camera for all your important photoshoot or vacation photo is no different than taking an Airsoft/ BB gun into a real war zone. Put it simple, you are NOT well equipped. Unless to you, quality does not matter, you just want some crap as memories, if no, phone camera to a decent camera (DSLR, mirrorless system etc) is like an Airsoft gun to a real gun. You can shoot, but you just cant kill.

Is Aspire banned or something? Usually when seeing topics like this he will spam his Nokia 808 pictures. LOL

TS just ask to get a smart phone or s100 or lx5 for his budget... DSLR just overkill for his travel use..imho

anyhoo... try snap these with a smart phone... and print em to 4R min.. u'll get shit...


Canon s100 test shots

low light/artificial light test





macro with bokeh (suck on this phone camera)

Hwoarang45 your signature blia mau update? gear upgrade liao siggy no upgrade yet. hehe.

anyway back to topic. they're different things all together.

sure, I like that I can USB charge my phone and being small but it's a phone. It's good enough for my FB / Instagram photos. Travelling and all, it's more than sufficient but being sufficient doesn't mean they're great.

Lumia users usually talk a lot only.

All post bugs and whatever.

my Galaxy Nexus i9250 photo manage to qualify as stock photo wor .......


http://www.goldfries.com/photography/a-gui...h-phone-camera/

Donno if any 808 / 920 on LYN have done that.

i just googled found that K-01 was discontinued.

Yeah u r right, i don't think i'm the kind of person who deserves a DSLR. My main purpose is to take nice photos during travel: landscape, and people shots, with some occasional indoor and low light scenes like at a dimly-lit ambient restaurant.

Looking at all the sample photos posted by sifus here so far, it seems Nokia 808 is up to the job but I don't like an old symbian phone. So looks like I'd get an S100 or LX5, or Lumix GF2 - I think that's the max i'll go, don't want anything bigger - prefer travel light.

I saw GF2 2nd hand available around rm800-900. Any comment? i think a micro 4/3 will take me a long way.

I've used my iPhone to cover one of my trips and it was PITA. I rather bring my old Sony digital camera to snap rather than any phone camera

that's why can get it cheap!

Mana 808 ?

will it have problems in maintenance/service next time? How will you compare it with Lumix GF2?

i just bought an s100 recently. it's really a nasty little cam(in a good way). 240fps high speed video is really fun to play with, especially with the kids. not many compact cam has the feature, let alone a phone.

What happen man?
I love statement no. 9. I guess my chubby photographer friend didn't bring along car battery for photo shot.

Mod, admin, sorry for spamming, but I can't help it man.

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9. Battery – while phone cam can just charge it on any usb ports, cameraman need to bring car battery around connected to some adapter and fake battery coupler.

LMAO!

i just love people's reaction, maybe they misread the word "I think" or "most" in that post.

But if both pics are steady, sure C510 still lose to S2 right?

I've never really handled a proper camera so I dunno how much they can control. But for phone, adjusting scenes, exposure value, ISO and white balance according to situations can help in low light.

This post has been edited by danielcmugen: May 30 2013, 03:46 PM

well....obviously a camera has more controls for those things. within the same age of course.

In terms of size, of course the S2 wins. However, setting both on 3 mp or there about, I see the S3 pics being more "flat", compared to the C510, which can give the depth of field. Of course, when comparing to a direct SLR, both no where near, especially if images are enlarged-full scale. I was shocked as well. My friend brought a Canon DSLR.

Also, I noticed that since the stock JB update for S2, the pic quality is definitely better.

Also, the best camera is the one you have with you, not the one that is left at home, like my current Canon S3 IS

Tech companies should put the phone in the camera, not the camera in the phone. There is a difference there. I don't mind the "phone-camera" to be slightly thicker to accommodate that zoom lens. A Canon Powershot S100 that can make calls is way more useful than a S4 at legoland. The big touchscreen, SD card is there, the camera is there. In fact, cameras now come with BT and wifi. Only thing not there is a sim slot and wireless capability. They should have made the samsung galaxy camera with call capabilities. Though you will look like a dork holding a phone-camera while taking calls.

http://www.lowyat.net/2013/05/30/8542/leak...oom-and-active/
I think my next phone will be a this S4 zoom, or whatever it is called. I will take 10x optical zoom, IS anytime over some 16 mp camera. That is, if it can provide good image quality, and dedicated camera button. Only other thing I wished for is a xenon flash, though I can live without that. That is, after my S2 breaks.

I'd go as far to say that traditional camera makers like Canon/Nikon are going to be bust if they do not change their strategies. As more people own smartphones, no one buys compact cameras. People who then want SLR like quality but don't want to bring a dedicated bag, will buy the Sony NEX-range, which is already eating into the SLR market. If you have a canon 5d Mk III, going on overseas trip, then you need to take into account hand carry luggage. With that 7kg weight an issue. Np in malaysia, but overseas, this is a problem. There is no way to fit a generic 2.4kg laptop with cords and 5d mkIII in the same standard hand carry bag (the one with wheels). Dilemma, which one to put in check in bag. Laptop or Camera. This situation I kena with Emirates. Also, I have a dozen friends with dslr, weirdly when we go camping/beach, only one person goes to the effort of bringing the entire gear. In fact, the rest just use their smartphone. I'm not sure that people become complacent that he is the dedicated photographer or not

There are actually very good used dSLR on Ebay UK. Good to the point that like new. Just need to wait about a year. Very common to get "not used too much", "got a smartphone" etc.