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post Jun 14 2013, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jun 14 2013, 01:26 PM)
wait for either the Lumia EOS, or whatever this one is...

http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/13/nokia-s...july-11st-in-n/

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Saw that and thanks.
I tried not to expect much. Don't want to get disappointed.


QUOTE(danielcmugen @ Jun 14 2013, 01:30 PM)
Thinking of getting a better camera by this yr cuz I'm not happy with my lumia 800 low light performance. Thinking of Lumix lx5 cuz I wanna learn more camera controls.

With phone cameras improving fast, I'm scared that in the coming years even a mid range phone would be better than an lx5. If this happens, I may not wanna use the lx5 anymore since my phone will be better?

So is it still wise to get a dedicated compact cam now? Ppl think they will go extinct soon. unsure.gif
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I share your similar concern too.
However, I think that may quite a distant a way.

As someone mentioned earlier in this topic or anywhere else in the web 'The Best Camera is the camera that always with you'.
To be honest, that statement met my heart and mind. If I bought a Camera, it would be seated in my cupboard till some foreseeable occasion.
Just give our expectation in check when purchase a gadget.
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post Jun 14 2013, 01:56 PM

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many people are like that, spend few thousands on camera but the camera end up in cabinet.
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post Jun 14 2013, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(weirdguy @ Jun 14 2013, 01:49 PM)
Saw that and thanks.
I tried not to expect much. Don't want to get disappointed.
I share your similar concern too.
However, I think that may quite a distant a way.

As someone mentioned earlier in this topic or anywhere else in the web 'The Best Camera is the camera that always with you'.
To be honest, that statement met my heart and mind. If I bought a Camera, it would be seated in my cupboard till some foreseeable occasion.
Just give our expectation in check when purchase a gadget.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 14 2013, 01:56 PM)
many people are like that, spend few thousands on camera but the camera end up in cabinet.
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Yeah but for the price of lx5, i can't get a phone camera as good...except for 808 pureview but design too ugly. I want better low light shots and more controls. With my current phone, if I want brighter night shots....the noise level will be high.

For day to day random shots, my phone cam will do. But for travelling and proper low light shots, I want better cam.

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post Jun 14 2013, 04:34 PM

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My phone camera at night is very laggy. You can feel the screen update lags which often leads to blurry photo.


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post Jun 14 2013, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(danielcmugen @ Jun 14 2013, 04:19 PM)
Yeah but for the price of lx5, i can't get a phone camera as good...except for 808 pureview but design too ugly. I want better low light shots and more controls. With my current phone, if I want brighter night shots....the noise level will be high.
you know how lousy is the Symbian right?

If I were you, I'd with something like the Samsung Galaxy S3 / S4 or the iPhone.

They have superb camera and superb OS. just a matter of which OS is your preference, no matter how the overall value still better than any nonsense 808............ unless you're really buying 808 purpose for camera purpose. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ianho @ Jun 13 2013, 12:08 AM)
I have many wonderful cameras at home but nowadays almost exclusively use my HTC Butterfly n Xperia Z phone cameras only. Coz they r always with me n goes everywhere including underwater. Big big camera all very heavy la
ehh what happen to your iPhone?

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post Jun 14 2013, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 14 2013, 04:55 PM)
you know how lousy is the Symbian right?

If I were you, I'd with something like the Samsung Galaxy S3 / S4 or the iPhone.

They have superb camera and superb OS. just a matter of which OS is your preference, no matter how the overall value still better than any nonsense 808............ unless you're really buying 808 purpose for camera purpose.  sweat.gif
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so how lousy is symbian?
cos its got no instagram? tongue.gif
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It's so lousy that even Nokia abandoned it and went for Windows. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 14 2013, 04:55 PM)
you know how lousy is the Symbian right?

If I were you, I'd with something like the Samsung Galaxy S3 / S4 or the iPhone.

They have superb camera and superb OS. just a matter of which OS is your preference, no matter how the overall value still better than any nonsense 808............ unless you're really buying 808 purpose for camera purposesweat.gif
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It's quite baffling for someone buy a phone as a camera
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post Jun 14 2013, 05:29 PM

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that said, I think Nokia would've done better if they market the 808 as a camera than as a phone.

It was using Symbian, and at the time of launch the iOS and Android were superb OS already. How to keep up?

If they had market it as a compact camera with 40MP what not with some UI for communication - wow, now that's different!
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afaik the 808 wasnt targetted at mass market.
nokia had already stated the 808 will be the last symbian device produced, and looks to be more of a stepping stone towards the lumia pureview models...
but also to probably give symbian a good sending off...
nokia has also stated that this summer will see the final shipment of symbian devices.

anyway, symbian for what it is is also less power hungry...no need quad cores to power a more intensive OS.
while basic apps from maps, waze, wechat, whatsapp, opera are all available.
plus the 808 has the now infamous mic that htc one used from the supplier who broke contract...makes a very good phone for bootlegging concerts.

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I think my next phone will be the Samsung S4 zoom. Or maybe I should wait for S5 zoom. I really want a bigger screen than my sgs2, but don't want to compromise on spec.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 14 2013, 05:13 PM)
It's so lousy that even Nokia abandoned it and went for Windows. tongue.gif
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considering nokia owns symbian...its more likely windows paid a shitload of money to nokia tongue.gif
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no need sending off. tongue.gif but it's not surprising, Nokia has abandoned other great OS, like Meego on N9.
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post Jun 14 2013, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 14 2013, 04:55 PM)
you know how lousy is the Symbian right?

If I were you, I'd with something like the Samsung Galaxy S3 / S4 or the iPhone.

They have superb camera and superb OS. just a matter of which OS is your preference, no matter how the overall value still better than any nonsense 808............ unless you're really buying 808 purpose for camera purpose.  sweat.gif
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No I don't want the 808. S3 / iphone also I believe not that much better than my lumia 800, OS not my concern.

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Thinking of getting a better camera by this yr cuz I'm not happy with my lumia 800 low light performance. Thinking of Lumix lx5 cuz I wanna learn more camera controls.

With phone cameras improving fast, I'm scared that in the coming years even a mid range phone would be better than an lx5. If this happens, I may not wanna use the lx5 anymore since my phone will be better?

So is it still wise to get a dedicated compact cam now? Ppl think they will go extinct soon.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 14 2013, 04:56 PM)
ehh what happen to your iPhone?
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 14 2013, 05:15 PM)
It's quite baffling for someone buy a phone as a camera
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hey i bought the phone as a camera laugh.gif i mean, as a phone, and also camera. app wise im not too concerned, not that tech savvy like people nowadays sweat.gif
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Yeah what to be baffled about? billion of people buy smartphone use the camera function and share photos. Most of them dont bother to read the exif data of the original size on what ISO, fstop or which adobe photoshop / LR and whatnot is being used for post processing. And they are happy. Those who are not happy are photographer.

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QUOTE(chokia @ Jun 16 2013, 10:39 AM)
Yeah what to be baffled about? billion of people buy smartphone use the camera function and share photos. Most of them dont bother to read the exif data of the original size on what ISO, fstop or which adobe photoshop / LR and whatnot is being used for post processing. And they are happy. Those who are not happy are photographer.
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I believe what they meant is;
"Why would anyone bother selecting their smartphones solely based on their camera performance"

There are other things to look for in a smart phone. For example: Apps, OS support and Speed
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post Jun 17 2013, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 14 2013, 05:15 PM)
It's quite baffling for someone buy a phone as a camera
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Hmm, when I bought the iMobile 902 and the K800i, I bought it purely because of the camera since I didn't have much use for a phone except to make occasional phone calls. I never replied to text because I would just call back. I didn't surf the web on my phone either. I just wanted a camera to bring around everywhere and didn't want the extra bulk of two devices.

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