on one end, 2mm makes all the difference.... on the other, you think 30mm is not much...haiks

a handlebar too narrow causes constricted breathing among other discomforts... should have sized it up during purhase...i saw before 1 fella at 2 diff shops on separate occasion looking for a 46cm... he is body builder type looking and no shops has that size available for him...

the only way to know is to give it a try... didn't know 3t produces 70mm lengths... really mtb territory already

i have a 90mm 6d, 100mm 6d, 110 6d, 110mm 8d, 115mm 6d from experimental runs... all funded from own pocket... still has the 110 and 115 with the 110 6d still on bike...wanted to give 120mm a try, but gave up as stems are crazy expensive...

if got money will get a zero 100 titanium bolts version

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Added on December 28, 2012, 2:58 am

got no relation to height wat... short fella can have wide shoulders... might look weird but thats the sole reason there is this word "weirdo" rite?

during mtb days... stem are as short as possible and you dont feel much disrepencies with different length and there is good reasons for this... especially on a roadie...

although common knowledge states there is 3 touch points on the bike... there is a few variables to factor in for road bike compared to mtb... on mtb, you have to deal with only 2 major hand positioning ... bar top and maybe holding bar ends..
on roadie, you have bar top, bar top closer to stem, hoods, drops which affect reach quite a bit depending of the types of bar you use...

one length might let you feel comfy grabbing the bar top but not the hoods.. the other might feel better grabbing the hoods out of saddle but screws with seated reach for the hoods... if you are the finicky type... it's complicated

i actually played even deeper than length alone... at one point i experimented with shallow and compact bars... i do like shallow bars than compact as i can run the stem slightly shorter but yet to find one that i like and has very very little drop..

wanted to try -17 degree to, but too chicken to go with that one...

dont worry about the length... as i say it will be experimental... as long as you dont mind spending the money to experiment.. which is why i say swap stems with friends or borrow loaners from bike shops...

Another possible theory, no chicks in this thread, end up being branded as a pansy group of gay of riders!

avatar too small la. need to see side view. anyway, about ur fitting. actually, first u need to set ur saddle position. use the "knee above pedal spindle" rule. u will get ur correct saddle position. after that, only then u find the correct stem length.

why don't u use a setback seatpost?

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Added on December 28, 2012, 3:54 pm
i got mine done rm350. but not by spez shop la

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Added on December 28, 2012, 3:55 pm
i started with 110, then moved to 90. i'm on 100 now. but the guy says i can go with 110 with my current setup

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Added on December 28, 2012, 4:00 pmmrjgx already pushed his saddle furthest back, and wants to use short stem. weird setup.

why did u push back ur saddle? u got really long legs? and 90mm stem, because short torso?

hub... zipp always wins... it's only 188grams for the rear and 88 for the front... and not to mention... sweet ol swiss steel bearings...this wheels if you can buy should not be worrying about reliability... it's guaranteed to break in one way or another sooner or later (comparing it to a 36-spoke classic wheel using dura ace hubs and mavic open pros laced to j-turn DT champion straight gauge spokes)... and money solves any problems that arises...not to worry as i say (as long as you have the money)...

else, think 50 times before doing it...

Came out from GH..  will die from the self induced poison, slowly and eventually!
On my way out, saw the S-Work black LTD. Stated claimed 5.9 kg only, mighty impressive. Somewhat didn't fancy the 303 tubular wheels, as i am not ready to take on the hassle of a puncture and much prefer a clincher type. Talking like I am taking a plunge... Must be the effect of the poison!
Oh, it only cost less than 30 big ones in case you are interested. 

like a friend of mine said once, "if u think too much, u'd be left just wondering what it feels like to own or riding those wheels. so just get it already"

Tried competitve cyclist fit calculator and I always get different number when i key in the info. Get some odd number like unusually long top tube which most bike manufacturer did not offer.

Dont understand what is going on I am so keen on that canyon ultimate AL bike.. I had long leg and short body btw 

trial and error. that's what i'm doing now. true, reading reviews alone is not enough. but at least can try the most popular choice within set criteria. wouldn't u agree?

this would be my fifth saddle

boonen rides on all 3 roubaix, venge and tarmac depending on the races... while contador rides exclusively on the tarmac... never seen him hop on the venge before for a race....

2010 sees him on the roubaix for the opening stage of le tour when it passes the cobble stages...then it was back to tarmac all the way...



nice ass...