Very long rant

Awful. Absolutely awful. Winning goal irrelevant at end there. Can't protect a lead. Pointless. Utterly pointless. We're at that stage we were at the back end of the 11/12 season after the Carling Cup final where you couldn't cheer a goal. It was impossible too because you knew we'd concede. It's back to that, now. It just seems worthless using your energy to do so because you now expect to concede every game.

That's Fulham at home. 3 goals shipped in to Fulham, at home. From a 2-0 lead as well. Honestly, it's shocking. Unbelievably we look a centre back short again. As in, we look like we could do with another because the others no longer look up to it. I'm sick & *bleep* tired of the same old shit, shit mistakes being churned out, year after year after year. We're a GK short. We're a CB short. We need a left back. We need a tough tackling midfielder and we're a striker short as well and we've been all of those short for f***ing years now.

There's something wrong within the club, it's not just the players. Because its a completely different personnel than it was 4 years ago, but they continue to make the same glaringly obvious mistakes, it's getting boring now, victory is now a surprise, irrespective of whom the opposition are. We needed the likes of Podolski, Giroud & Cazorla on top of the players we had last season. On top of them. Additions.

But with the subsequent sales of Van Persie, Song & Theo in January, they will have all turned into replacements. All we've done, summer after summer is look to replace when we've needed additions on top of what we've already had. Sell 1, buy 1. Buy 1, sell 1. We need to start buying 2 before we're selling 1. It's all wrong, the mentality is all wrong & finally had enough. I try & be as positive & as supportive as I can be, but I can't find it in me to cheer a goal, because I think we'll concede every game. I can't believe in 2012/13 we've relied on the likes of Abou Diaby & Rosicky to be fit. Honestly, if someone would have told you in 2009 that in 2012, you will miss Diaby & Rosicky, I'd have said you're mental. They won't be at the club then. We've pinned our hopes on those two staying fit for a season when they've never managed that before!? It makes no sense what so ever... and I'm sorry, but there is something fundamentally wrong, within the club, and finally, after years of witnessing the same thing & trying to find excuse after excuse, whilst searching for the positives, I can't find them anymore. I'd like to hold my hands up & say I'm sorry, but I don't know any more. I don't know what's wrong, where we're going or what we're doing. I'm completely totally & utterly lost & I no longer have an answer for anything anymore.

The personnel problems started right at the end of the 07/08 season. We pushed Utd & Chelsea right to the 37th fixture that year & perhaps we should have won it. But we should have sat down & evaluated what was needed. But nope, we made do. It was the start of us 'making do'.

We lost Diarra, Lehmann, Flamini, Gilberto, & Hleb. We bought Ramsey & Nasri... Then made do. We probably needed a Nasri on top of what we had in order to push that one last bit. Subsequently, there were no additions. We barely replaced. We bought Arshavin in Jan when we should have bought him in the summer previous. Clawed our way to 4th. That summer? Lose Toure &Adebayor. In? Vermaelen. Again, we needed a Vermaelen on top of what we had, so again, no additions. Just making do, once again. We then finally made an attempt to replace those two losses a whole year later with Koscielny & Chamakh. So where are the additions? To help push on? By now, we've lost Eduardo as well.

We go into 2011 summer. We lose Nasri, Cesc, Eboue & Clichy. We're down. We already needed additions to compete, on top of what we had so now, we're *bleep* basically. We send a depleted side to Old Trafford& Arsene lines up 4-3-3 & they're ripped apart from 1st minute to last. Embarrassing. How dare he line that side up as open as that, at Old Trafford. 4-5-1, pack that midfield out & play flat. Come away with a 2/3 goal defeat, people understand. But we've left ourselves in a position where we're selecting left backs who are being sold the very next day. Why the f***, how the f***, is Traore getting anywhere near that starting XI!?

We then leave it last minute, in true supermarket sweep fashion to bring in Mertesacker, Santos, Arteta & Benayoun. Ok, you've made your purchases. Not everyone's choice, but you've made them never the less. We'll get behind them...& as much as I love the likes of Arteta &as much as I respect & appreciate that we somehow finished 3rd in a shit-off between ourselves Tottenham, Chelsea & Newcastle - we knew what we needed so that we wouldn't find ourselves in this position again. We knew, we all did & at the start we thought the club did too. We went out & completed deals for Pod, Giroud & Cazorla. It was exciting, because finally, after years of not doing so, squad personnel/options looked good again. It may have been good enough. But then every single one of us was smacked in the face with the sales of Van Persie, Song & the Theo issue not being resolved. "Sorry, Theo. We can't offer you that extra 10k or whatever you want a week because Mr 28 year old & Mr 30 year old have no footballing ambition whatsoever & want to sit on thier 50/60k p/w wages which prevents us from keeping our most dangerous player, which you are. Bye." Makes... no... f***ing... sense... WHATSOVER. Its the clubs fault we'll lose Theo, not his. Not his at all. And once again we find ourselves in the same, moronic, tiresome position of being short in the exact, same positions we have been for yeeeaaarrrs.

It's not on, it's not acceptable. We're not Everton. We don't have to sell before we can buy & hope we find a gem. David Moyes has to make do because they haven't a pot to piss in.Which wouldn't bother me if we were in the same position. But we have pots. f***ing loads of 'em. Each & every single board member has their own individual diamond encrusted, gold rimmed pot to urinate all over whenever the f*** they like.

This club does not give itself a chance, on the pitch. We make do through choice, not because we have to. We don't compete because we choose not to compete. Not because we can't. Year after year, all we do, is make do. No conviction. No direction. No ambition. Farce.

...and there's not a single person out there who knows how much its taken me to voice an opinion as strong as that.

We unable to play the passing game now. Our midfield yesterday is empty. No one providing support to arteta. No movement at all from the midfield. Santi and ramsey/coq always get so high up or blardy near make it hard to ochestrate a pass. Midfield is a total screwed up last night. We can't even play our boring passing game. Luckily we got plan b who seems like gonna replace our plan a. We can't play our plan a with midfield performance like this.

^ there was one point in the game when we had 3-4 players in the penalty box, and sagna was holding the ball. and no one was in the center, offering a short pass option. two players were hounding him and he ended up passing back to per. i'm sorry, i thought i was watching arsenal? this might be a sam allardyce's team for all i see! no one is making a move to offer a short pass option, no wonder we kept backpassing and then eventually losing the ball. because no one wants to hold it.

good thing is we're playing a spurs side who's having trouble finding the net next. but you never know with derbies, and gareth bale has been playing fantastic away from home.

i think the attacking force is started to click, and i still think the back 4 are pretty solid although leaked the goals (u must give credit to fulham's bryan and berbatov awesome display yesterday).

What made our defensive fragility is because we miss a combative dmf to cover the loophole between the back 4 and attacking force.

in fact i don't miss RVP so much but 1 man i really miss is Song. He used to cover the back 4 while intercept opponents that passing around the midfield a.k.a. doing the dirty work

Put Arteta into that position is gonna waste his great passing talent and it's not his natural position to stay back as defensive duty as he will be easily outmuscle by opponents.

sounds like a midfield enforcer is what we need. if we get that, we'll have arteta and wilshere to play the deep lying playmaker role, while santi's role is still exclusive to him. rosicky might be able to do both once he's back, but we can never rely on his injury prone legs, like diaby.

^^ exactly. wilshere/ rosicky and arteta to control the midfield tempo while trying to provide deadly pass to cf to score, or occassionally dribble by themself and pull the trigger to shoot.

we are really in need for a combative enforcer/ dmf to stay back to do the dirty work to intercept ball so that the former no need to always come back to cover defensive duties until fatigued.

we got enough of great cb as well as cf to cover atm, so jan priority target definitely is not a cf or cb position, unless there is a major injury problem on that department.

I love what arteta is doing in midfield last season. Our midfield looks good at that time. Now with santi and whilshere, its even better but we lost song. We need someone to do the dirty work. Can frim do the job? he is still very raw. Need someone more exp and proven not some guinea pigs or unpolished gem in order to save our season. Luckily it's only nov and aw still have time for jan purchase.

Anyhow, I don't see aw will buy anyone. Hes so stubborn and probably let arteta continue that dm role so Ramsey n whilshere can share the cm position. No matter how, there is always a place for that godson.

This post has been edited by Vinci777: Nov 11 2012, 06:10 PM

remember to reserve another godson spot for diaby.

Errrr,
Can anyone quote this post. Easy for me to track new post.

Thank you very much

Actually Diaby would be the one who balanced the midfield with his strength. But then again, we cannot rely on his glass legs.

At least Diaby on good days could really spark the atk n tormented the opponent defense. Ramsey? I tak tau le.its been a long while he got a performance rating of 8-9. It's hard to even see a 7 from him.

This post has been edited by Vinci777: Nov 11 2012, 06:57 PM

we still weak against strong physical team..yesterday arteta and santi can't provide more good passing from centre..because they are short so its hard to win aerial battle and throw back ball to opponent area..

Ramsey.... mentioned of his name, my brain already processing bad words to go with it

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO for Arsenal players & AW. U guys deserve it

It's almost like a culture in English football. Home fans boo their own squad, when things when wrong. Happen at WHL, Loftus Road, Villa Park, Anfield, SoL, Stamford Bridge, Carrow Road and Etihad as well. For the most of the time they will sit down quietly if nothing exciting happen.

It's different culture in Germany, Spain, Italy, Turkey or some European and Asia country, the fans are standing the whole 90 minutes, singing, chanting, buzzing, whistling the opposition. I'm starting to think EPL are bit overrated on these whole atmosphere aspect. This is also part of the reason why i don't buy into EPL is the best league in the world argument.

are you sure mate??take serie a' for example.they will boo, and they will threaten the lives of players too.its not all passion and sweet on the other side of the field.just plain same only.

when frustration mounts things do go down like that, no matter where the scene is.english game has everything youve mentioned as well as their counterparts from else where.in a phrase, football fans all are alike.we want the respective clubs to be successful and get pissed off just as quick when things are not going the way we want.

This post has been edited by mhyug: Nov 11 2012, 10:41 PM

not to forget c.ron and his madrid mates was also booed for few games last season when they did not perform

happens everywhere. not only BPL

the atmosphere..still cant match Dortmund home game..that a crazy one.. sometimes fans enjoying the game..that mean whatching the game closely..most of the time supporters that chants and singging all the time.not exactly enjoying the football game..but enjoying the event..the whole package..the peoples..

We need Viera type of player in midfield.

My assessment is more toward overall atmosphere generated inside the stadium. I always think the home fans could do better in EPL. So many time in the past the home fans are out vocal by the away fans including European campaign.

I have Unifi HyppTV at home, which broadcast UEFA matches, some Spanish, Russian and Argentinian League so it give me wider perspective of European and S. American football culture. For example, Maribor vs Spurs 4 weeks ago was magnificent. Home fans (Maribor) are behind their team and didn't stop singing throughout the whole match. Also the atmosphere at Greek, and Donbass Arena were out of this world. Think Kelantan also have great set of supporter, always intimidating, doesn't matter what happen on the pitch. I think it's down to culture. Roy Keane already had his take on this issue as well.