Oh I see. Klcc nearby onli mah via Jln TU Razak. Drive can. Take lrt/mrt oso can. Jln Ipoh got some crappy mall too.

But mall in sentul sure tak boleh wong wan. Not yet anyways.

And with so many malls coming online soon, we'll see lotsa mall failures within next 10 years. With that, mixed development concept may be passé. And success is mini-township/urban transformation centers.

Got? What's it called?

So u think its expensive? What do u think the average maintenance will be for similar condo in 5 years time?

50 is in 5 years time. Its already prospectively estimated for time. Not sure about more to upkeep? Water features are expensive to maintain, but 50 in 5 will be more than adequate.
I am SURE maintenance for most high end condos will be up in 5 years.

No name. Only drawing proposal? But nice design. Fennel land initially oso was some sort of mixed development, but later changed to full residential condo only.

I think mall here will be a white elephant. But thats just me.

Not normal. Agree with you it'll still be higher than others. I still think 50 in 5 will look decent and not gonna cause so much as now. MK condos have lotsa pressure to push maintenance fees higher. Older MK condos like Pelangi didn't have enough funds for repainting and refreshing, so owners had to pay up one lumpsum amount. Most sinking fund used up just to maintain facilities.

Few MK condos have already increased their maintenance fees since past 2 years. Averaging 30-35 cents now (inclusive sinking). There will be another hike within 5 years to bring it up to high 30s or low 40s. No offence too, but 25cents for Pavillion MK is "artificially low". I believe its really a marketing gimmick if really true. Do you think it will not be enough to cover maintenance? If they are using Nepalese guards, I dont believe so. If so, why does Arcoris with 1200 units (including hotel suites) need 39?

Thank you for sharing. And congrats on ur purchase. But I caution you as there will be some forumers who will then ask what if you compare with this other or that other project, do u think you made as much money? Or if you're part of some cow mentality who just buy without thinking because the line was long. Haha.

Want to let go? Tell him good idea. Not good lah this investment. Sentul not worth the price wan. Don't be like cow.

And inform us lah the same day he let go.

Eh, mana ada? My fren is there now and said only penthouse available. Even type B all sold out. Got waiting list for drop out units. But so far none!

Exactly what my fren said. Damn bullshitters!

Today's Star, YTL got full page color advert thanking all "dumb" cowherd buyers for supporting!😄

The meaning can be interpreted in as many ways as you hope or like.

Can't remember.

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Aiyah, u should just play along lah! Why burst his fantasy? Haha

Thank you for a well written and insightful post. Too often has this topic been bombarded by repetitive questions of "oh, r u dumb to buy?" or "what's ur game plan?" or "there's much better buy elsewhere" from people fantasizing themselves to be property tycoons!:)

Such a breath of fresh air. Keep up the good work!

Who is the writer? A property tycoon?

The writers profile. https://plus.google.com/app/basic/114029682...source=apppromo

I think u are better

BBB! Best area in KL. Will be "better" than MK. Or even KLCC. Will be the next CBD of KL. Fringe of Bukit Jalil! At 435/sf is SO cheap compared to cowfarm Sentul! Infinitely better! Hahaha

It's not about buyers saying good things and wannabes bashing but about people not accepting reality.

Reality is that for lotsa reasons, capers and Fennel set new benchmarks in this area and whatever launched so far literally sold out even with limitations of one unit/person after hours queuing. At a price that many perceive as being too expensive in absolute terms but not considering the psf price is very reasonable.

There has never been any condominium launch with this kinda sale that I ever remember. Sold out except for penthouses with just 2 days of limited preview. This is reality.

So there are many who did not expect this. Especially among those that did not manage to get one or could not buy one for whatever reason eg affordability. There's lotsa emotions involved, some trying to justify to themselves more than anyone else the reasons they do not want to buy. As has been pointed out, most people who are not interested in a project will not even bother to spend time here. Then the comparisons with MK which absurdly is what some people think that Sentul is aiming for. Or at that price, can "easily" but a unit in MK being a "better" investment. Sentul is sentul and not MK nor KLCC nor any other fringe of some district 20km away! Comparing these projects with some leasehold development with neither the branding, design, locality, infrastructure and road connectivity is beyond me, with the justification of "better investment". Maybe they are, but fact is fact. The sales do not lie. Lookin back, many considered Capers in hindsight to be one if the best buys of the year it launched. Fennel is not Capers but judging from the sales it may very well be the same for 2013.

Whether its to buy for own stay, or investment or whatever, buyers are not dumb as many here would like to portray. It's embarrassing really to even imagine people who can afford to buy being people who are probably uneducated, with a brain too simple to think but buy because they follow the crowd. If that was true, then saner heads will prevail after the initial rush and we would see tonnes of drop out units back in the market! Alas, there are none. Probably due to presence if a waitin list rather than absolutely no drop outs. But again, fact is there are none to buy now even if you wanted to....other than humongous penthouses.

Not sure whether anyone can say the same for some "better buys" elsewhere!

This project is not about what Sentul is now, but about what Sentul could be. It's a strategic location albeit with an unfavorable past. Again, it's not gonna be an MK or KLCC, but it has a potential that no other freehold area within central KL has.

I know there are many buyers who just read the topic but never post due to the hostility. I sympathize with you all. Such is the standard of forums nowadays. What to do? Everyone is a "property investor" nowadays.

Back to talking about herd mentality again? So passé by now but to think that people buying 700psf condo just coz everyone else is buying shows the level of maturity in your thinking. Really, if you can't stop thinking that people buy capers and fennel without any thought and research, then you need to come back to reality.

Economics? Macro and micro? Come on. What are u doing in a property forum? And if you have bought anything in the past 6-12 months, then you're not doing why you preach! If you truly think that property is gonna tank for whatever economic reasons or articles that you attach written by any Tom d*** Harry, then why are you buying?

A success is not measured SOLELY based on how well the property sells, but if you can't even convince enough people to buy all the products you're selling, then your product ain't good enough as your competitor. Period!

Cheers