Contact the AD in states to compare 1st
Ie
www.worldlux.com/longines-watches.html

How much u looking to spend?
What do u mean by better brand? Better at marketing?
What is polite and elegance style? Oris tag and ball make a lot of sports watches.

Rolex drops a lot too!! Was just in sg a mth ago those ladies Rolex pre own is going for sgd$5k+, when u want to trade it in to these place they only willing to pay ~sgd$1700!
Sell online on forums u get more money, sell to shops expect big loss even with Rolex.

Let's not think of preown value.
30% is normal, a few yrs back ML doing a 50% sale on their masterpiece collections watches.

ML masterpiece is well decorated and finished. Better than ball or Oris

No value? U make it sound like give away free and shops can sell it at full profit.
anyway, 2nd hand value depends on how desperate one wanna get rid of watch. walk into pawn shop with a popular daytona U think they pay U well?
if they pay so well why would ppl sell on forums.. LOL

It really depends on the type of leather, there are very good ones which don't get dirty and is very water resistance. I paid 7k for a leather watch.

U should look at nomos, it's clean and timeless design
http://www.nomos-store.com/en/Watches/auto...ystal-back.html
http://www.nomos-store.com/en/Watches/powe...steel-back.html

by the way which ML watch u looking at?
here is a great ML watch priced near RM$14K, but u can see ML goes for steep discount on grey. 30% not great deal.
http://www.collectorstime.com/products/mau...ade-silver-dial

U could get a Zenith on grey
http://www.collectorstime.com/products/zen...l-time-ls-black

or those discontinued Ebel 1911 watches on caliber 137, US factory outlet are letting them go at 70% off.
http://www.watchtime.com/wristwatch-indust...ph-caliber-137/

This post has been edited by patryn33: Feb 28 2013, 07:27 AM

Lots if positive reviews on them internationally. I think someone got a watch from them without issues too.

They are great buy.

Maybe odd size? then 3rd party ones hard to find need custom make.

Hmmm what's your pt here?
U insinuating they copy pics from the Taiwanese site?

Like that is so defensive? Putting out a statement that gives a moot pt.
Wow..... Better not reply to u next time so sensitive. U might as well say I sleep with them... Lol
If u not overly sensitive do share the link to Taiwan site.

This post has been edited by patryn33: Feb 28 2013, 08:22 PM

Zenith elite are great movement, I just hope they spend the time to add little touches on the movement. It's fairly plain.

Another suggestion FC classics manufacture worldtimer
http://www.frederique-constant.com/nl/news...imer-collection
http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/hands-on-with...tant-worldtimer

My 1st and last for the year, happens to be my 1st seiko too
http://www.012.co.jp/credor/node/gclh997.html

crappy pic from iPhone

Has been Casio the entire time when I was a kid till I become 17, then it's tag with my own $$ that I make from work.
So it's my 1st seiko. Lol

I love handwind.

[quote=johnthe692006,Mar 1 2013, 12:42 AM]
[quote=bernard79,Feb 28 2013, 06:45 PM]
The price sounds too good to be believed for this BALL Engineer red label... If US asking price is around 2600 dollars, then 2900 MYR is way too cheap! Are you refer to this model? Thanks

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Of course not the red label. 2900 is for my fireman racer. Red label if not mistaken is around10k retail. After discount bout 7.5k ++ gua. The red label is cost one right?

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That us price is b4 discount. New should be around RM5k.

Someone on WUS selling it, priced too high u can tell
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f29/fs-ball-4...ter-822940.html

However this Msia is selling at usd$2262
http://www.orolus.com/cgi-bin/ShoppingCart...+Red+Label+40mm

This post has been edited by patryn33: Mar 1 2013, 04:41 AM

Watch release in 2012, only 88 around u getting it preowned?
http://www.watchalyzer.com/magazine/news-e...graph-ii-watch/
http://www.my-watchsite.com/watch-luxury/t...vuitton-56.html

This post has been edited by patryn33: Mar 1 2013, 11:50 AM

Does it matter to you? Since u want to spend less, no matter the reason isn't that your goal?

It didn't look that small in the pic.
Maybe it's your turn to hand it down. Make a good boy watch or if your gal like retro

　TISSOT T852.436.99.037.99 "T-POCKET MUSICAL SEASONS "　? Not cheap around rm$14k online

The usual seiko5, or citizen.
Should check out the seiko thread

Really depends on service person, usually card is good enough but then Tge dates on the card is often incorrect. Some ppl want to see receipt to make sure the date on the card is accurate.

Tag asked me for receipt b4. Nomos also wants my receipt.