Germasian, listed in Germany watch make in china. mechanical movement most likely Shanghai
ebay pricing is is low.

Shop grey can get alot more, shop online or smaller brands also deals
check page 1 post 1

here are some
http://www.collectorstime.com/products/bal...-white-mb-index

mainstream brands U can try
- Frederique Constant
- Epos
- Mido
- Mondaine

can't really advise not knowing design or what u looking for.
that $$ can get dress, pilot, diver etc watch.
need day/date function? chrono? moonphase?

20yrs ago, its just 1992!
vintage is more like watches back in 1970s and before to me.
within in 1980s is just old watch.. LOL

new to watch, look at page 1 post 1 and return to share what U seek in a watch
size? water resistance? style diver/dress/pilot etc? etc
then ppl can suggest

antique typically refer to items that is over 100yrs old.
vintage is usually less than 100yrs old, ppl in antique biz or jeweler would consider 50-100yr old items to be vintage.

today alot more ppl like to label watches before the watch crisis ~1978 to be vintage watches, maybe these watches are rare
anyway, watch collectors is interested in the yr its bad... not knowing a yr and label vintage or antique don't mean much to many

ppl can choose to consider anything, esp its subjective. those ppl may collect swiss not Jap too.
its alright to disagree.
yes its a crisis for Swiss and American as they all make mechanical. Japanese seiko just cut back on making mechanical and ship out quartz.
anyway, ppl usually use vintage 1985 Omega or vintage 1960s Omega. Vintage 2000 Tag Heuer with the year attached.

its just a term don't need to get so fixated to it.

don't know they stack up, lots of debate online but on conclusion.
I would get the Orient Star... uncommon


where are u getting it from?
Seiya??
http://www.seiyajapan.com/product/O-WZ0251...C-WZ0251EL.html

I have done it, reading reviews online on WUS they have been positive.
no worries its not a Rolex, I know CK77 got Rolex online and its ok

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Added on December 29, 2012, 2:31 amlooking for Gold? maybe top up a little more can get a auto here on their sale
http://www.christopherward.co.uk/sale/preview.html

a good buy for dress watch is the below
http://www.watchseller.com/eporaurgp.html

This post has been edited by patryn33: Dec 29 2012, 02:31 AM

well make is swiss mean something, made in Germany means little. No laws as to what means make in germany.
Zeppelin uses a swiss movement, case doubt make in Germany like Ickers brands.
Zeppelin at 7mm, Epos is auto using 2892 at 8mm.

Frederique constant quartz slim line is slimmer.
FC-245M5S5 is at 5mm
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Frederique-Constan...=item2c6b1aff71

looks like ppl are living PAM Homage again.

found this German Brand kadloo, looks like alot of surplus stock going to ebay and amazon.
a number of positive reviews on WUS.
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f8/kadloo-wat...ase-162221.html

ie
US$395 or rm$1.2k
http://www.amazon.com/Kadloo-Scaramango-Me...K/dp/B008B8T6NA



Sub homage for ~rm$850 on ETA 2824


This post has been edited by patryn33: Jan 1 2013, 12:20 AM

Read post 1 on page 1
Let's us know what type u looking at then can suggest

Where to?
U maybe only can save on VAT and shipping if u are getting direct from them by visiting them.

Brands like UTS, Laco, Stowa and Guinand sell directly online. U get to visit how they make watch and get discount

This post has been edited by patryn33: Jan 8 2013, 11:38 AM

Due to limited knowledge u are also going for well marketed watch.
Should watch for LVMH sale in KL often times watch go in sale at 40% off, maybe others can let u know if they still doing it
Ie
An add back in 2009
http://salemalaysia.blogspot.com/2009/04/l...family.html?m=1

Read page 1 post 1
Don't think local carry any, closes would be SG
or just buy online

No one is selling it just check below
http://www.nomos-glashuette.com/en/retailers/

3k only in grey not thru http://www.worldofwatches.com/Frederique-C...34&bo_store_id=

http://www.gemnation.com/watches/Frederiqu...nt/watches.html

They just won another award
http://www.watchtime.com/blog/nomos-glashu...design-award-2/

Nomos is a daily beater, great watch.
They volume is pretty small, I wait for mine for 3mths b4 AD gets it. Annual vol 5k to 10k iirc. Tag Heuer makes like 700k Rolex makes 1.2million

They a online store that sells to Msia as there is no dealer locally
http://www.nomos-store.com

Nice read on nomos movement
http://patek.watchprosite.com/show-forumpo...i-577121/s--10/

This post has been edited by patryn33: Jan 13 2013, 12:54 PM

All watches IMHO look better in pics taken by pro

Don't know them but mine is at ~rm7.5k now, its my daily beater.

Anything wrong with that?

FYI I think the cheapest starts at 4.5k

This post has been edited by patryn33: Jan 15 2013, 12:53 AM

There are leather that is treated that can take serious beating from salt water