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 Ipad 4 aka Ipad with Retina Display, Apple A6x processor ! :D

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post Nov 2 2012, 12:29 PM, updated 13y ago

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To those who already owned the latest (late 2012) apple full size ipad, may I know is that the heat problem is solved? Is it still warm after long time of gaming just like the ipad 3 aka New ipad?
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post Nov 2 2012, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(christcwl9 @ Nov 2 2012, 12:29 PM)
To those who already owned the latest (late 2012) apple full size ipad, may I know is that the heat problem is solved? Is it still warm after long time of gaming just like the ipad 3 aka New ipad?
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my early 2012 old new ipad already change owner... so far so good without it... waiting iphone 5
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post Nov 2 2012, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(xproc @ Nov 2 2012, 12:35 PM)
my early 2012 old new ipad already change owner... so far so good without it... waiting iphone 5
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Haha, I am also interested with ip5 also tongue.gif

But back to the topic, I really wanna more user review on the new new ipad before decide to whether upgrade my early 2012 new ipad or wait for ipad 5 with new design and quad core CPU tongue.gif
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post Nov 2 2012, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(christcwl9 @ Nov 2 2012, 12:46 PM)
Haha, I am also interested with ip5 also  tongue.gif

But back to the topic, I really wanna more user review on the new new ipad before decide to whether upgrade my early 2012 new ipad or wait for ipad 5 with new design and quad core CPU  tongue.gif
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ifixit got teardown liao.... just the processor and lightning only... others changes really none..

ipad mini got stereo speaker... ipad retina, but mono speaker....
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post Nov 2 2012, 11:12 PM

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hmm, i'm wondering to buy ipad 3 or ipad 4, any opinions?
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post Nov 2 2012, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(xproc @ Nov 2 2012, 01:50 PM)
ifixit got teardown liao.... just the processor and lightning only... others changes really none..

ipad mini got stereo speaker... ipad retina, but mono speaker....
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does stereo and mono make a difference in tablet?
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post Nov 2 2012, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(leowjc @ Nov 2 2012, 11:12 PM)
hmm, i'm wondering to buy ipad 3 or ipad 4, any opinions?
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If that is ur first ipad, I suggest buy the latest version smile.gif
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post Nov 3 2012, 12:01 AM

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post Nov 3 2012, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(christcwl9 @ Nov 2 2012, 11:52 PM)
If that is ur first ipad, I suggest buy the latest version  smile.gif
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ipad3 is cheaper by RM120, not worth to buy?
the reason i'm considering ipad 3 is because i don't know when ipad 4 will be released in msia.
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QUOTE(leowjc @ Nov 2 2012, 11:12 PM)
hmm, i'm wondering to buy ipad 3 or ipad 4, any opinions?
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iPad 4 is a replacement upgrade of 3. 3 is completely phase out. What is left is existing stock.
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post Nov 3 2012, 12:18 PM

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both me and my brother sold our 6 month 32gb wifi only old new ipad at rm15XX... he going get the new one... i looking for the iphone 5
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post Nov 3 2012, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Nov 3 2012, 11:41 AM)
iPad 4 is a replacement upgrade of 3. 3 is completely phase out. What is left is existing stock.
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Ya true, no more production .better sale off if want too before ipad4 arrive.
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my opinion, should be less heat generated, since this A6X is totally new chip with more efficient and more powerful.

so, if this new chip can handle all power hungry apps without pushing to max power, should be less heat generated. and i heard this A6 is more better fabrication , like 32nm . correct me if im wrong.


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post Nov 3 2012, 02:07 PM

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There a new GPU also.
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post Nov 3 2012, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(megahertz @ Nov 3 2012, 01:19 PM)
my opinion, should be less heat generated, since this A6X is totally new chip with more efficient and more powerful.

so, if this new chip can handle all power hungry apps without pushing to max power, should be less heat generated. and i heard this A6 is more better fabrication , like 32nm . correct me if im wrong.
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what is exactly the reasons ipad 3rd gen heated up so much?because pushed too hard the GPU for the retina display?
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post Nov 3 2012, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(bosco1314 @ Nov 3 2012, 06:17 PM)
what is exactly the reasons ipad 3rd gen heated up so much?because pushed too hard the GPU for the retina display?
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For me, I guess the main reason is the screen itself. Heard that sharp got 1 new technology on screen which will be used in the upcoming ipad 5 which do not sacrifice the screen resolution and yet be able to use less power and generate less heat.

Btw, that's just rumor. And I have read somewhere saying that the new ipad 4 will also warm after intense gaming just like the ipad 3.
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QUOTE(bosco1314 @ Nov 3 2012, 06:17 PM)
what is exactly the reasons ipad 3rd gen heated up so much?because pushed too hard the GPU for the retina display?
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is because those massive screen resolution. 2048-by-1536 quite huge, more than fullHD. apple push the A5X with quad core GPU PowerVR SGX535.
while for ipad4 use A6X with quad core PowerVR SGX 554, which more powerful and more efficient. should be less heat generated.

check with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerVR

Model Year Die Size (mm2)[1] Config core[2] Fillrate (@ 200 MHz) Bus width (bit) API (version) GFLOPS(@ 200 MHz)
SGX535 Nov 2007 65 nm 2/2 14 500 64 9.0L 2.1 2.0 1.6
SGX554 Dec 2010 1-16 8.7@45/32 nm 8/2 68 1000 64 9.0 2.1 1.1 12.8

compare the die size and the power it produce.
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QUOTE(megahertz @ Nov 3 2012, 08:46 PM)
is because those massive screen resolution. 2048-by-1536 quite huge, more than fullHD. apple push the A5X with quad core GPU PowerVR SGX535.
while for ipad4 use A6X with quad core PowerVR SGX 554, which more powerful and more efficient. should be less heat generated.

check with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerVR

Model Year Die        Size (mm2)[1] Config core[2] Fillrate (@ 200 MHz) Bus width (bit) API (version) GFLOPS(@ 200 MHz)
SGX535 Nov 2007      65 nm 2/2 14 500 64 9.0L 2.1 2.0 1.6
SGX554 Dec 2010      1-16 8.7@45/32 nm 8/2 68 1000 64 9.0 2.1 1.1 12.8

compare the die size and the power it produce.
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So far I feel iPad 3 is smooth enough.
Do you think is that necessary for upgrading iPad 3 to iPad 4?
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post Nov 4 2012, 03:42 AM

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QUOTE(VoltGadget @ Nov 3 2012, 11:36 PM)
So far I feel iPad 3 is smooth enough.
Do you think is that necessary for upgrading iPad 3 to iPad 4?
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Imagine the benchmark is double the ipad3,
Sure more smooth?im tempted to change from 3 to 4 as well
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post Nov 4 2012, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(leowjc @ Nov 3 2012, 01:28 AM)
ipad3 is cheaper by RM120, not worth to buy?
the reason i'm considering ipad 3 is because i don't know when ipad 4 will be released in msia.
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It is basically up to u. If u need ipad urgent now, ipad 3 is also a good buy, except u gonna leave the latest A6x processor. For your info, ipad 3 now is very fast as well! smile.gif

QUOTE(VoltGadget @ Nov 3 2012, 11:36 PM)
So far I feel iPad 3 is smooth enough.
Do you think is that necessary for upgrading iPad 3 to iPad 4?
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If ipad 3 owner, as many big tech site like Engadget, Slashgear and cnet reviewers said, u may not need to upgrade to ipad 4 , perhaps should hold ur force and save ur money for ipad 5. Who knows there is a new design, better power management and an A7x with Quad Core CPU tongue.gif

So my answer is a no upgrade if u owned the early 2012 ipad smile.gif

QUOTE(bosco1314 @ Nov 4 2012, 03:42 AM)
Imagine the benchmark is double the ipad3,
Sure more smooth?im tempted to change from 3 to 4 as well
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The biggest noticeable change between ipad 3 and ipad 4 would be how fast an app is launched. Performance wise, once the app is launch, negligible difference. Though there will be some choppiness in high end graphic intense game in the ipad 3 whereas the ipad 4 would be able to handle those with ease tongue.gif

For daily use, which like me use it for web browsing, reading and light gaming, performance difference shouldn't be that big smile.gif again, upgrade all not is up to u, I rather save that money now for a new smartphone though I am really jelly for the new A6x which should have been released in March this year sad.gif

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