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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V34, Edisi tikus ~ 过街老鼠 人人喊打 ~

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davidke20
post Nov 4 2012, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(uncleben @ Nov 4 2012, 03:59 PM)
u at uniten?? student oso or what?


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yeay!! can2!! so when r u free? drool.gif
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Weekday I'm ok, especially evening after dinner time. To troubleshoot your car(and yourself driving skill), you'll have to fill in full tank infront of me, then we hit the road 1 around, may be spend some 60~80km town/ring road driving. After that you're required to top up your fuel tank to full, so to see how much petrol we wasted, that you'll have a general idea on how to drive efficiently. So, the total costing will be like RM60 prepaid(depends on your petrol tank balance). Actual consuming fuel costing should be around RM10~15.

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post Nov 4 2012, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(uncleben @ Nov 4 2012, 04:25 PM)
errr.. ok then.. need to postponed it to next week then.. haha..
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You see la which day you're more free, the night before will be a good time. Why night time? Less traffic can be easier to track your fuel consuption. The last time we had LC2K session, the highest record we managed to marked was 20km/litre rclxm9.gif 2nd run at 16km/litre, which is not bad at all icon_idea.gif
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post Nov 4 2012, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(kokhing520 @ Nov 4 2012, 09:57 PM)
1800... unsure.gif  unsure.gif


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i always use minimum level of temperature...and blower speed of 1-2..
most maximum only one bar...>< no choice...sangat sejuk betul!
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Come out for a midnight run TT, I wish to see it for myself to be sure.

QUOTE(Maxwell6635 @ Nov 4 2012, 10:12 PM)
Hi all,disable abs will increase my brake performance ?^^my foreman say so...^^
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Disable ABS will jam your brake more often. It does not increase brake performance. A car with ABS, normally you'll have slightly numb feeling on the brake pedal, especially when you're emergency, your car tend to keep rolling for a distance before its fully stopped. Reason being, ABS functionality is to ensure your wheels does not fully STOP in the event of emergency, partly to allow you to steer yourself away from greater danger, another thing is to maximize your tire traction. Do understand in the event of aquaplaning, if your wheels are fully stopped, the wheels to surface water rejection is minimal. ABS is there to ensure your rubber continue rolling so the water get cut away to have more surface contact. Appreciate to have ABS in a modern technology equipped vehicle, or you must practice Aku Brake Sendiri. Meanwhile, tell your mechanic to go FUcK himself for the irresponsible recommendation. Those days when Wira 1.8 owners went disable their ABS is because it was malfunction, and locally doesn't have replacement part. In order to repair those ABS can easily cost up to 4k and or above. Therefore some of the owner decided to risk their life. Enjoy the video.


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post Nov 5 2012, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(kokhing520 @ Nov 4 2012, 11:16 PM)
shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif
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Midnight run as in driving the car in the late evening when less traffic, so can easily track your fuel consumption sweat.gif We have already done our best to help some of the poor soul here to save some petrol thus far by only doing midnight run. I don't take profit, but you'll have to fill up your petrol tank before we go for a ride. Below are some of the midnight run story.

QUOTE(lhwj @ Aug 11 2012, 04:06 AM)
Had a good double midnight run with YAB thumbup.gif Will let him explain what we did rclxms.gif

PS click on Fuelly below and look at last two fuel ups as hint brows.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 11 2012, 10:25 AM)
LC2K rock! I think the 2nd fuel up is still totally legit despite I think the pump overshoot. May be that's just YAB style as its similar to what I have in my fuelly.

To those who interested, we took a full tank of petrol in Petrogas Pump 11, then run for 81km to reach the same petrol station and to fill up to full tank again at the same Petrogas Pump 11. Then we took the same route again and refill the same way to find out 2 different driving habits leading to different kind of fuel consumption. The result was not consistent due to pump auto stop trigger, but generally we've got the idea of how each other's differ in term of gas pedal action. Indeed Luke is still hot blooded, whereas YAB is too unker for him.

Report ends here as some of the important data I'm keeping it for the coming event(which I have not geet the sponsor yet).

Total 3 sets of KENWOOD tweeter had been given out. I myself took 1, but kena scolded by sponsor as my car was not standard as they required. Another pair had been given out to Asad on previous midnight run, and the last pair goes to Luke for yesterday's midnight run.

A short note: 3:20am in the morning, a bloody white FL/FLX come and haibeam us & follow closely diong until we stop at Petrogas station. If you're a member, I appreciate your gesture notworthy.gif Otherwise, I'll claim your NCD with my rear bumper.
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Oct 1 2012, 03:33 PM)
although it's already old story already, but don't care one.

first of all, i am so happy that i'm one of the few that got lucky have midnight run with YAB unker david. for you all out there, if you are free, please do come to TT. can make new friends, learn more about cars, got valuable tips and trades about gaga.

to unker YAB, tq very much for your gaga tutoring. feeling like a boy get to meet Leona Chin or even greater. can't describe it. but seriously hard to adjust to real unker driving actually. last time back home from TT, watched your sawi passed by while me unker driving makes me like wanna cry don't want to unker driving. hehe.
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post Nov 5 2012, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Nov 5 2012, 08:44 AM)
saw my review about midnight run with YAB.  sweat.gif
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Which part make you sweat wor sweat.gif Why everytime I meantion midnight run people will scared of me? I'm a decent unker driver lar sad.gif People who tested my driving should 还我公道

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Kinda reminds me the first time midnight run with lhwj sweat.gif
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post Nov 5 2012, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(Maxwell6635 @ Nov 5 2012, 09:08 AM)
lol....^^actually i can see that ABS doent function well....^^if exceeding the speeding...it wont take place...
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hmm.gif have u drive a car without ABS before? I think what you meant was the car does not instantly stop due to actual ABS function. Otherwise, you're a drifter. ABS do not immediately stop your wheels. If you want the hard brake feelings with ABS, you just need to slam on the brake pedal.

Should have let you try my VR4 brakes with racing rotors then claim total loss instead of selling the car rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 5 2012, 10:58 AM

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Seems like latest topic is about brakes. Let talk about brake then.

Master brake cylinder: change to a bigger size brake cylinder can have greater pedal assistant. Meaning when u have a bigger brake pump, you don't need to step so hard on pedal to achieve braking power.

Brake caliper: it contain a brake cylinder inside the caliper, when receive hydraulic pressure, it pushes the piston out, piston will push ob the brake pad, brake pad will create friction on the disc rotor to create stopping force

Disc brake rotor: few different type of disc rotor floating in the market. Older/smaller power vehicle came with solid single layer disc rotor, such as Kancil/Kelisa/Wira 1.3. There are similar size but dual layer disc rotor from imported Lancer/Mira. Between the 2 layer rotor is a venting design that allows heat to be release quickly as rotor spin. Slotted disc will have lines on the disc surface that allow brake dust to be quickly flick out to achieve cleaner friction, but more dirty rim since brake dust being quickly expel out. Drilled disc allowed even better heat relief. Normally, on racing motorsport will have dual layer vented,slotted,drilled disc to maximize braking power.

Hub brake cylinder: it has a piston to extend the shaft when received hydraulic fluid. The shaft will push the brake shoe to a greater diameter, and the brake shoe will create friction with the brake hub to achieve braking power.

Brake hub: is a round hub that covers the brake shoe. GaGa & Gabby inheritted certain problem with thei rear brakes, include these.
1) Oval shapped brake hub. When apply brake can hear "tok tok tok" sound due to imbalance brake hub.
2) Spindle too thin. Bearing is set to run loosen, can hear "tok tok tok" sound even without braking. Worst case scenario whole rear tire will cabut together with the brake hub.
3) Senget brake cylinder. As a result the shaft tend to jam very often. After apply brake, the shaft couldn't fully retract, continue grinding the brake shoe on the hub. May increade fuel consumption, reduceed braking power and also damage the brake hub once brake shoe worn off.

The above are some basic knowledge in brakes. Here we go for slight detail on how to improve braking power:

1) Change brake pad to higher working temperature such as ceremic compound. Advantage is, it can sustain substatial of brutal brake force, but during cold it has very little braking power.

2) Chang to bigger caliper + disc rotor. This can be sure to increase braking power for the wheels. The 1st day I got back my car with a VR4 brake, I accidently glued my face on the windscreen when I apply hard brake. However, during wet season the car tend to skid a lot. This mus accommodate with tire and rim size upgrade.

3) Slot your brakeshoe before installing them. Good thing is, when you slot 1 line on the shoe, you virtually make 1 brake pad into 2. If you slot 2 lines, you have 3 brake pads! Bad thing is, those shoe tend to weaken very quickly.

4) Upgrade to wider tire, let's not forget to have a better wet grip tire to achieve maximum road holdinng power during rainny days. However, good wet grip meaning thread is deep, this type of tire very noisy and not comfortable. If good dry grip meaning the thread is thinner & course grinded, so it has more surface contact. Without proper traction thread, wet grip gone. Also make a note when you have wider tire meaning more petrol consumption due to more surface contact.

So, I guess a 17" 205 tire is good laugh.gif
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post Nov 5 2012, 04:33 PM

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If someone wanna put TRD spoiler on GaGa, why not? I took it as granted, sold the V3 spoiler to found out my car not stable at all when going 160kmh. It used to be soooooo smooth and stable when doing hi speed, now only butthurt. For that RM100 I sold, I can never get back TRD V3 spoiler anymore. Don't bother those bugger say your car look like dugong, because its not. As long as you don't put any Toyota related wordings/loga is fine. If like that people no need to use Samsung liao, bcoz iFon started it afterall. Same thing goes with spoiler. They's spoiler LOOKALIKE TRD V3, but never claim they're from TRD that can fit a GaGa, so as buying/using a marvelous Samsung Galaxy. When they drive 160kmh the tail shake until AES oso kenot snap foto, then u laugh back them whistling.gif TRD V3 lookalike spoiler for GaGa rock rclxms.gif
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Aircon Cabin Filter Bulk Delivery
Please find your tracking number at DELIVERED column, if your name is not there, your package will be delivered this Thursday.

There is 2 type of blower casing designed in BLM/FL/FLX.

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This type of pollen filter, the casing door lock situated at the left side. To install paper cabin filter, you'll have to take out the pollen filter, plot the paper filter inside the pollen filter before slot them back. You can't use 2x paper filter.

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If you have this type of pollen filter, the casing door lock situated at the right side. To install paper cabin filter, you'll have to take out the pollen filter, slot the paper cabin filter into the casing, it will fit in nicely. Then you put back the pollen filter ON TOP of the paper filter before you close your casing door.

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Pending delivery
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Disclaimer: Please understand I'm not doing this for business/profit. Let alone I spent time to wrap your package, spent money to buy material to wrap include duct tape, wrapping sheet, marker pen, petrol, parking, precious time to wait at post office. Those who paid late, I'm doing my best to fulfill your order by this week.
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post Nov 6 2012, 06:54 AM

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QUOTE(mat79 @ Nov 6 2012, 06:05 AM)
no lah dares, i completely agree with u,just add more factors into equation only. I said dont get mad bcoz i used the word 'to kacau dares'. I really afraid that i offended u with the word only :-) coz i never good in making jokes :-). I really happy that u keep in touch with those in saga thread.
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Set all those aside, bro do you know what is the communication protocol BLM/FL is using to broadcast error code/readings on the OBD2 port?
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post Nov 6 2012, 10:56 AM

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mat79,

Please don't be over sensitive, we're adults, understand it well. We apologize for wrong doing, not for providing info, and therefore no offend taken. I think dares understand this as well, since he's also unker style, may be oni few days younger than me. So, please do come back & continue feed us whenever you feel we have wrong info.

Meanwhile, I was hoping to get some extra info regarding OBD output protocol. Recently I purchased a universal decoder, to my surprise it was unsupported format!!! I tried ISO,CAM,and whatever available protocol in the system I tried, none of them fit with the rubbish SIEMENS!!! mad.gif The only time I get to read my BLM ECU was back in home town my magician uses 1 of those Plotong giant ECU reader/programmer. I'm not going to invest some 20k just to do some ECU reading rite. Don't get me wrong, I'm not angry about you, but I'm rather puzzled why Plotong suddenly go & use different protocol on BLM/FL?!

Anyway, just to reemphasize, I'm not taking any offence from your comment. I'm rather respect & appreciate your input. If I ever get a chance to meet u up personally, I'd buy you a jar of BEER watermelon juice icon_idea.gif
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post Nov 6 2012, 11:58 AM

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Who wanna let me plug their conti ECU? sad.gif it aint work for my poor BLM mad.gif
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post Nov 6 2012, 09:14 PM

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edited: PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V34, Edisi tikus ~ 过街老鼠 人人喊打 ~ thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

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post Nov 6 2012, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Nov 6 2012, 09:16 PM)
Hi Bro!
Happy 4yu lo.... rclxms.gif
Now me kenot wait 2b home ASAP but now feel me hv 2claim from Poslaju mine....since me was not arnd when they tried to deliver.... brows.gif  rolleyes.gif
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Bro, your FC improved jor a lot wor icon_idea.gif
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post Nov 6 2012, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Nov 6 2012, 09:34 PM)
Hi Bro YAB... notworthy.gif

Really? Feel more normal nia...  tongue.gif
Probably better ctrl of my right foot now...with help from FS esp on HiWay... rolleyes.gif
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Last week I managed to clock 16km/l on haiway, 11km/l in KL driving in a GaGa FL whistling.gif

That's exactly the same as my manual BLM doh.gif

Definitely right foot problem shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(zeone @ Nov 6 2012, 09:53 PM)
Me still a long way off fr yr achievements above... rolleyes.gif

However, kinda happy cos getting abt same as my former ole gen 1.5I Auto... biggrin.gif
Will b filling up b4 me go back 2A/S (plans changed 2most probly 2moro now...) and will post new figures...
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You're not in KL now aren't ya shakehead.gif Why didn't call us? We'd like to meet you up personally nod.gif Take you and Mrs.Z1 out tok kok sing song icon_idea.gif
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post Nov 6 2012, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(asrul @ Nov 6 2012, 10:37 PM)
fuel up nearby my office until full.

drive back home.
traffic as usual which is around 23 km.

reached home and one bar dropped.

haish.
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asrul, do you FUELLY? If yes, would you mind to share? If not, can you please start 1? With a series of data will be easier for us to assess your driving pattern VS actual FC. I personally don't believe any GaGa can consume more then 10km/litre. IINM, you have trouble filling your top bar most of the time as it will only appear 5 box on the indicator most of the time, correct? Do you know even the fuel pump auto disengaged, you can still manually pump in slowly to add in another litre or more, to fill it to the brim? nod.gif

If I leave it auto disengage when filling up, most of the time my 1st bar can only last 30km. However, if I push in until petrol spill out, I can do about 70km on the 1st bar laugh.gif Regular/mostly town driving lar, but drive like oppa apek style icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 6 2012, 11:16 PM)
Post the link so maybe some of you might be helpful.

Mana tau David go and troll ppl then drag me and Nick into water doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(nickzkuso @ Nov 6 2012, 11:19 PM)
I only can doh.gif doh.gif
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sleep.gif I was trolling the 2 of you icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 6 2012, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(asrul @ Nov 6 2012, 11:28 PM)
im in kl for quite long time and no one care  mad.gif
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yiu dun wan join TT, this week not phree that week not phree whistling.gif

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