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davidke20
post Nov 2 2012, 08:47 AM

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Izka,

Do I look like I'm kidding? yawn.gif
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post Nov 2 2012, 06:23 PM

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For air-cond service matter:

Under 2 scenario:
1) Olskol aircon setup with R12 gas, without cabin filter, compressor without torque cut out. You NEED to do aircon service under routine bassis.

2) Neuskol aircon setup with R134 gas, with cabin filter, compressor got torque cut out function, you only NEED to do some regular DIY maintenance or send in aircon guy/SC to let them cut throat.

Things to take care:
1) Olskol aircon came with R12 gas, low pressure, high cooling effect, bad thing is because it cool so fast and the gasket/insuflex suffer from drastic changed in temperature. It will develope symptoms like gas leak, dirty condensor(residue of koyak gasket). Regular service is inevitable, because those days cooling coil was blown directly by the blower. U know I know blower suck recycle air from the passenger glovebox compartment. Without paper filter, human slime/saliva kena suck in & lekat at the cooling coil, later dust kena stick by the saliva. After 2-3 years of none stop accumulation, your coolig coil can't even squeeze an ant. At that time, u go service aicond, the mech use chemical to clean, if your coil still thick can stand la. Otherwise like Z1 cakap will bocor then your money gone.

Some preventive action may reduce chance of money fly away is to make sure your passenger side floor mat is clean! This will reduce dust being suck in by the blower. If you use coil mat, buy an extra RUBBER MAT put on top, RM8/pc only. Make sure u soak the rubber mat with soap water 1st before use, otherwise those chemical smell can make u high. Refrain from using clip on liquid freshener(increase of slime). Ask your passenger talk gently, don't spill saliva. Vacum your cooling coil & wind channel once in a blue moon. Your olskol aircond system can easily lat u 5 years+ before any major issue occur.

2) Neuskol aircon is easier to take care. R134 gas need higher pressure, but slower cooling effect compare to olskol. However, car manufacturer use high speed blower to overcome this problem. Basically the whole aircon system was designed to withstand outside high heat, cabin cold environment. We GaGa citizens consider blessed bcoz new technology applied. By adding a piece of paper filter can draw extra moisture/human slime(saliva)/body odor from recycling. When cooling coil dry means dust very hard to stick. If you don't have a paper filter, buy 1 and install it. Change your cabin filter if wind doesn't get through. Other than that, normal maintenance like cleaning wind channel will do.

Some common stuff
I personally don't do air-cond service until something wrong. Just take note on these few things and u save your wallet being punctured a big hole.

1) If aircon suddenly not cold, please switch off aircond immediately. It could be cooling coil too dirty, dirt stuck at cooling fin become ice, wind couldn't get through. If keep on powering up aircon, refigerant also become ice, ended up extreme pressure may blow -» cooling coil/hose/compressor. Service cooling coil.

2) When sometimes cold sometimes not cold, could be thermostat jammed. When this happened, your compressor could overworked and keep charging refigerant into the cooling coil. As a result, condensor overheat may cause radiator boil oso.

3) When traffic jam time, aircon not cold. Could be your radiator fan. Bear in mind GaGa only got 1 fan. Get the fan thoroughly inspect, or you may melt your engine.

4) Continue number 3, radiator coolant too low, sensor didn't get trigger to spin the fan. Check radiator/water pump whether function properly.

5) When aircon kick in can hear fry clam sound from compressor... You have a leak hose previously. Refigerant came with lubricants, when u leak gas you tend to lose lubricant. The wear off piston/valves/fin in the compressor normally developed after refigerant leak. Nothing much u can do to rectify. Add a can of additive to the compressor to try your luck see how long can it last. Don't bother to service your aicond system at this time, unless you already planned to change the compressor.

In short, whenever you discover aircond no longer cold, it means lost of refigerant/valve sumbat. Turn off your aircond and send for service immediately. I'm not talking about no wind come out, if no wind check blower. I service repair my aircon in Taman Kinrara YKS behind AmBank. Not the cheapest in town, but price is reasonable & very honest tauke. Whenever thing can be use back, he will try to retain. Very detail thorough work, lots of explaination when asked. 5 thumbs up, 2 hands, 2 legs and... Nevermind la thumbup.gif
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post Nov 2 2012, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(Maxwell6635 @ Nov 2 2012, 07:03 PM)
thanks bro^^..for ur info....just want ask open the air con will make the car more heavy?
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Yes it does. It can support up to 2.0litre engine, therefore its slightly heavier. According to vacuum reading, almost 30% of the engine output went powered the aircon compressor sweat.gif
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post Nov 2 2012, 08:58 PM

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Nut is really irresistable. Most who tried a nutted GaGa surely kena poison geh sleep.gif

V12kontena shld really konsider open shop sell nut liao icon_idea.gif
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post Nov 2 2012, 09:42 PM

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Should put it this way sleep.gif

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post Nov 2 2012, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(jacktay94 @ Nov 2 2012, 10:54 PM)
best car weih.. 1st day dapat kereta..

1) fuse for the light rosak, in car light.
2) rubber thingy at the door come out.
3) the auto relock alarm still relocks after i opened my driver side back door. ==
guys, no way to open up the seat to access the boot space from the front right?
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1) any car fuse can blow. just unlucky. RM2 only include installation, any accessories shop can do. laugh.gif
2) what rubber thingy? foto please blink.gif
3) means the switch jam jam dei lor, can open up the rubber spray some lubricant and close back the rubber geh. I know whatcha say, Plotong well known with thier quality QC sweat.gif

Plotong Gabby can incline backseat, GaGa kenot doh.gif Soon you'll have more things to fix, next week Iska will give you a "short" listing whistling.gif
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post Nov 2 2012, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(jacktay94 @ Nov 2 2012, 11:13 PM)
brought it back to service center and got it all fixed. all free since i just got it ystd. i mean, its new, i got it ystd. i dun mind fixing after a while, after 30 km. seriously? ==
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probably ady rosak before you sign the car off show room laugh.gif you have no idea how the SA treat our car before they sent for car wash. I've even seen Perve new car with a trade plate pulling henbrek drift, may be the SA is testing the lower arm to make sure "THAT" incident doesn't happen again whistling.gif
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post Nov 2 2012, 11:40 PM

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Latest hot cake is a DATSUN?
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post Nov 3 2012, 12:00 PM

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So fat his is the best version I've seen, quite professional



And this 1, is found after saw r3apers siggy laugh.gif
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post Nov 3 2012, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(Maxwell6635 @ Nov 3 2012, 08:29 PM)
what the fxxk....==...they charge me gorvernment tax 6% on the Hari Raya in october...==..damm them


Added on November 3, 2012, 8:32 pm
How much is it o?^^
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1st of all, when u press the thermostat button at the aircon control console, that will disable the compressor. Without compressor running pure on cabin blower, you will not suffer any loss of torque. Your proposal of changing bigger fan to radiator may reduce the compressor charging time, but it doesn't really drastically reduce torque consumption, however cooling effect is improved.

About the ECU nut tuning, please consult kenjilew or V12k or Mahihi.
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post Nov 4 2012, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(kokhing520 @ Nov 3 2012, 09:55 PM)
Advantages of the CVT

'Engines do not develop constant power at all speeds; they have specific speeds where torque
(pulling power), horsepower (speed power) and fuel efficiency are at their highest levels.
Because there are no gears to tie a given road speed directly to a given engine speed, the CVT
can vary the engine speed as needed to access maximum power as well as maximum fuel
efficiency. This allows the CVT to provide quicker acceleration than a conventional automatic
or manual transmission while delivering superior fuel economy. '

why i cant feel the fuel economy now?~ T^T
rm50 half tank 140km only~ owh Gosh~


Added on November 3, 2012, 9:56 pmby the way...information from
http://www.acetech.com.my/Download/Informa...Sharing/CVT.pdf
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Assuming you drive until 300km, refill RM50, price per km travelled will be RM50/300km = 16cents/km, and you call that eat oil? blink.gif My car can send for kedai potong ady, average 17cents/km

Besides, what sort of traffic you drive on a daily bassis? Aircond setup? Your quotes statement has nothing wrong, the only thing wrong in a GaGa is the bloody aircond compressor that can even sustain a 2.0litre executive car. In order to save some petrol, you better tone down the thermostat, increase blower speed. Stop waiting inside the car thinking enjoy the powerful aircond whilst waiting for your girlfriend to put ICI on her face whistling.gif I'm not saying ask you stop using aircond, you must understand the compressor is too powerful for such a small engine, and therefore whenever it charged, refrigerant being under utilized but then your engine had to spent 30% of its capacity to powerup the under utilized compressor. As I suggest, try to counter clockwise your thermostat, clockwise your blower speed to achieve better cabin cooling efficiency, at the same time do some green work to the earth and your wallet icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 4 2012, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(Noobdao @ Nov 4 2012, 09:53 AM)
U changed it to H4 d?How is it ?Nice??/
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He's BLM lar, use H4 geh. You FLX use H7 expansive until dai doh.gif
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post Nov 4 2012, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(ming86 @ Nov 4 2012, 11:14 AM)
mine also same..
full city-drive: 7km/L...
milage: ~16000km
drive alone/fetch ppl, smooth acceleration/heavy foot, light aircond/heavy aircond, all not much different in FC...  sweat.gif
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Where do you guys stay? I willing to sacrify 2 night for the 2 of you (kokhing520 & ming86). Let me know whether izit possible to meet anywhere nearby MRR2 during weekday after working hours? I will personally molest your car & see how it make that much of difference hmm.gif who knows I might be able to break fix it icon_idea.gif
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post Nov 4 2012, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(ming86 @ Nov 4 2012, 01:56 PM)
I stay at penang...  ohmy.gif
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Then look for lhwj lar. He's the LC2K chairman notworthy.gif
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post Nov 4 2012, 02:22 PM

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Duplicate your remote control's frequency conveniently yawn.gif
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post Nov 4 2012, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(uncleben @ Nov 4 2012, 02:21 PM)
can "fix" my car eh bro david? tongue.gif
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Di mana hang duduk? Sudah lupa alamat hang. Klu dekat ngan MRR2 mana² area, boley lar arrange 1 malam pi midnight run kasi "on foot" tuning sket.
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post Nov 4 2012, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(uncleben @ Nov 4 2012, 02:33 PM)
sekarang duk kat bangi.. hehe.. conti my study at uniten.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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We can arrange a meetup somewhere in Serdang/Sri Kembangan area kalau hang sudi mali, mungkin ajak skali SiuYi pi jalan².
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post Nov 4 2012, 03:34 PM

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The Camber Screw thing tire shop always mentioned
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Without a camber screw, your wheels is running fine, until 1 day you hit a pot hole that changes the angle of your knuckle/absorber mounting/chassis frame. Yellow line is the center alignment, your wheel will run straight with these. However, after "transformation process" from the pot hole incident, red line represent the off camber alignment.

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This is what they called the adjustable camber bolt, that allows mechanics to alter the camber alignment. This kinda quality adjustable camber kit normally cost atleast U$20/pair. If you have a bad camber in the US and demand the mechs to adjust your camber, normally it will cost you a car(few hundred U$ to set it straight). Therefore, most US citizens have their own garage and do their own technical works by themself(include overhauling engines and transmissions).

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However, we only have this type of adjustable camber kit in Malaysia(and I've seen worst). Selling price RM35/piece at tayar shop, cost is RM3~RM5 depends on WELDING quality, and YES I mean welding. Most of these screws are recycled truck bolt, then add a welding spot as the camber eccentric. Therefore, if you certainly sure you didn't hit any major accident/hit a pothole at high speed/changed your knuckle to accommodate huge disc brakes, you're better without these freakin local kilang bawah pokok adjustable welded camber screw.

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Added camber bolt allow you to alter your camber settings up to 6' from in to out cam. As a result, you can choose to make the car turn left more often or turn right more often. If you're on drifting/gymkhana more often, you can set the camber to -2' on both side, so your tires tend to have less traction on a straight road, but able to gain control whilst hitting a corner. Negative camber give better fuel consumption due to less tire on road surface, but tend to quickly wear off your tire inner thread due to imbalance load.

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If you already have camber screw, be sure to tell your technician you have an adjustable camber, ask them to place marking on the camber so they can put it back at the same place/settings after work. Otherwise, mechanics tend to cincai screw the camber back and leave your tire grind. Until you realize you need to redo your camber/alignment already too late, your tire probably left half. See below:

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Request TS to put this on common driving tip on 1st page.
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post Nov 4 2012, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(AmeiN @ Nov 4 2012, 02:54 PM)
Can ask to take a look for my car also?  sad.gif
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You also from up North ka, contact lhwj then yawn.gif
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post Nov 4 2012, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(AmeiN @ Nov 4 2012, 03:44 PM)
penang laa..  sad.gif
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Our FC KING is from penang

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