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 Genneva Malaysia V3, Raided on 1st Oct 2012.

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post Nov 19 2012, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Nov 19 2012, 04:17 PM)
yea that photo supplied by that consultant with the sob story of no balik kampung for Haji ma... she consultant lei gehhh
directors now don't even dare to say how much is being seized.
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Do u mean the TMI story featuring the Super 'SSes' - Shereen, Shanti, Surin - actually I'm still dreamin' of being a Super CON and drivin' my own CEO car.

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post Nov 19 2012, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(Burnnut Luu @ Nov 19 2012, 06:33 PM)
Even if pic is real, they take a picture of their gold holding everyday? Good symbiosis between 2 type of heartless ppl, the directors the scam and lulu the spam, result one burned gold goose that is still happy flapping around looking for Note 2
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Lulu was reported to be holidaying in Myanmar ... (from ill-gotten commissions????) WTF??

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post Nov 20 2012, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(terry8 @ Nov 19 2012, 09:57 PM)
One of them claimed that she is going there to "meet" Obama but is Obama "meeting" her ? Definition of meeting may be stretched to the limit here.


Added on November 19, 2012, 10:27 pm
Obama was in Myanmar for a total of 6 hours and she managed to squeeze in a meeting with him ?????? hahahahahaha
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Obama meeting the Genneva Patsy??!!?? Not unless he wants to start the biggest gold ponzi scam in the US so that every US citizen can enjoy 24% ROI. Even Warren Buffet and George Soros will be impress wor!!

Anyway, the GMS page postings has become utterly insane lately and one can really become lulu by just reading it.
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post Nov 20 2012, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(Burnnut Luu @ Nov 20 2012, 09:21 AM)
Did anyone see the picture with Obama saying , "Central Bank robbing the citizen's gold? Now , this is madness!" lol Damn funny, probably this picture makes the Butch wet all over
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I saw a pic of Oabama kissing Aung San Su Kyi passionately on the Malaysian Insider. I bet the Chief Imagination Officer thinks it's her and makes the Butch wet all over...LOL


Added on November 20, 2012, 9:41 amOMG!! The price of gold just went up USD18.27 (1.07%) today. What's happening???

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post Nov 20 2012, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(terry8 @ Nov 20 2012, 11:48 AM)
All these are
Please no LGBT bashing here lah. One bad apple do not represent the whole community. We have to treat people as individual and give respect to them based on their own personality.
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I do respect LGBT, for sure and I will challenge anyone that criticizes, mocks or bashes LGBTs. People have the basic right to their sexual and life preferences and I strictly accept them as they are. However I'm only against those disgusting vultures who are looking at the opportunities to bring misery to those victims by smooth-talking into giving away all their life's hard-earned money and life savings. After destroying so many lives, they then use all the ill-gotten commissions enjoying life, lunching in expensive Japanese restaurants with wads of cash in their bermudas and holidaying in Yangon and sluttyly imagining Obama wants to have a romantic rendezvous with them.

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Nov 20 2012, 04:12 PM)
They say they have solutions like fund from Genneva China RM 300 mil , Hong Kong and Manila to cover us,... Why don't they pay us? There are many ways.... but they don't, is it just for the sake of throwing empty promises? so it shows that their own interest comes first, and our interest is the last..... Think wisely....
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Way to go En. Sani, you are absolutely right. Semua janji mereka tak boleh pakai. Sue the hell out of these scammers.
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>>Lulu's way - the black mail thru' threats way - "watch it, GE 13 is just around the corner. BNM and Barisan, don't u play play." The writing is certainly on the wall. This write-up will literally seal the fate of all Gennevarians and their gold/money and she think she's smart!! Hmm...perhaps she got her inspiration from the military junta in Yangon<<

The writing is on the wall
by Genneva Malaysia Supporters on Tuesday, November 20, 2012 at 5:55pm ·

Photo credit: Insan Terinaya

Top of everyone's minds ... what is Bank Negara and Barisan Nasional doing now? Why so slow? Who are they really protecting? The above image gone viral yesterday is the perception of those who are personally affected and whose livelihoods were robbed in broad daylight on 1 October 2012. The majority assumes the authorities are always right and turn a blind eye to those crying for help, human rights and justice until they are personally hit.

Genneva customers who were "sleeping" (not politically conscious or not bothered with what's happening beyond their backyards) has woken up thanks to BNM's unjust raid of Genneva Malaysia Sdn Bhd.

50 days gone by and still counting. By the end of this month, 60,000 Genneva customers will feel the pinch harder without hibah for two months and consultants will be without their commissions for three months. What will happen to their dependents from aged parents to children and the sick from all communities and all walks of life?

Customers have gone to UMNO including the highest authority, the Prime Minister who is also the Minister of Finance to plead their case. Yet no answer is forthcoming.

What will Genneva customers do? What is their last recourse for what it is worth?

Our take, these Genneva customers and their dependents will not only make it a point to go to the polls at GE-13. They will probably join the awakened citizenry (who upholds integrity, justice, and the rule of law over any other interests is necessary to combat corruption) to CAMPAIGN for the opposition.

Who is more believable at general election campaigns? The rants of mega scandals and wastage of tax payers money exposed (view list below) or these Genneva customers and their dependents who tell their own true stories at election campaigns how Bank Negara Malaysia, Ministry of Finance, Ministry of Trade and Consumer Affairs, etc had done them in?

Who holds the top four positions in each Ministry ... politicians, voted in by the rakyat at general elections.

When will the next General Election be held? ... Anytime before March 2013.

The writing is on the wall, literally at Genneva Malaysia Supporters FB wall.

Marketing experts will agree nothing beats "word of mouth" and "testimonials" in any marketing campaign, be it products, services or causes. Coupled with social media such as Facebook, Tweeter, etc; hundreds of thousands more will read about Genneva customers plight via Viral Marketing on the internet and on the ground during the General Election campaign period nationwide.

— By Genneva Malaysia Supporters

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QUOTE(Desvaro @ Nov 20 2012, 07:18 PM)
Shanti of course very happy to get back her gold but many others didn't. Why?
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Shanti must come out openly and admit whether she got back her gold from BNM or refute Sani's statement. Too much conspiracy theories abound.

>>The way I see it, GMS Admin is just trying to divert everyone's attention from the company's misgivings to others' failures.<<

Diversion is correct. Lulu has been using diversionary tactic since Day 1...it's either BNM or the government who's at fault NEVER the directors, mgmt, the CONS or herself.

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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Nov 21 2012, 10:32 PM)
Smart Lulu, speedy to kill off comments u don't like... cos Shereen and Dhyana seemed like cannot hold on to the mob crowd
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A cult mob crowd deserves 'The Dicktator' as their leader, preferably a fan of Adolf and someone who's inspired by the military junta in Yangon.

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Anyway if the Chief Imagination Officer imagines she's the Joan of Arc from Genneva, let it be. I recall Joan of Arc was finally burned at the stake for being sort-sort.

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Added on November 22, 2012, 7:12 pm
QUOTE(terry8 @ Nov 22 2012, 06:17 PM)
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Added on November 22, 2012, 6:19 pm
Hundred percent agree with your assessment - I have so much more respect for the Bestino people
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Well I read somewhere that a study found that victims tend to have sucessful businesses or professional careers and had put more effort than non-victims into analysing the scammer's proposition. Another surprising fact is: Knowing about investments and investing increases, rather than decreases, the risk of falling for a scam.

About the venue, Debbie is right, the place which will make most impact is BNM itself. But if it is within the premises, chances are high that they will get thrown out by the police. Maybe just outside the gates on the kerb. Putrajaya, not effective unless one wants to meet the PM but all they will ever get to meet is PM's special officer who will just bullshit them off. Parliament, yes my second choice, large place for gathering outside the gate leading to Parliament. Most effective during Parliamentary session...send a memo and request an MP or MPs to receive while session is on. But since this is a ponzi scheme, will any MP even bother to be concerned.

(Note: The other condition is that they must get permission from the authorities in charge of venue and agreeable by the police under PAA 2012)

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QUOTE(terry8 @ Nov 22 2012, 07:40 PM)
In their procedure they need to get permission from person in charge of venue before submitting form to OCPD. Who is in charge of Putra jaya ???
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They are NOT adhering to the Peaceful Assembly Act 2012. All their suggestions point to an illegal assembly. The authorities in charge will NEVER give permission for Putrajaya, BNM or Parlaiment. The police will probably suggest an enclosed stadium where they can syiok sendiri and shout till their throats get hoarse.

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post Nov 23 2012, 05:11 PM

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LATEST FROM GMS:

Summary: Legal advise from panel of lawyers
by Genneva Malaysia Supporters on Friday, November 23, 2012 at 3:48pm ·

For consideration, compiled by GMS Steering Committee

Under Civil Law, anyone can bring to the Court of Law a 3rd party claim

Time (minimum of 3 years and it could just go on for years);

Cost (Open File costing is between RM10,000 to RM1 Million. This excludes all other costs that will be incurred)

Possible Negative Returns (in the event BNM has a positive decision on the investigation and GMSB is back in operations, your claim will continue)

OTHER MATTERS :

Scenario 1 – For those with physical gold

Continue to hold on. Price appreciation would be your gain at a later time.

For ad-hoc relief –

Pawn Shop. The average pawn shop would offer an interest rate of between 1.8% - 2% and the buying price may vary with the estimated price of between RM120 per gram to RM150 per gram pending on the price and the location. This is but an estimated guide.

Sell to gold wholesalers. There are several of such avenues depending on your location.

Bring your gold to other gold trading companies. Please be advised to look at the gold selling price of the company and make a comparison for on some occasion the difference in pricing would cause a reduction to the weight of gold you have with you.

Scenario 2 – For those waiting for gold to be released and awaiting collection

The release of the company by Bank Negara Malaysia would enable the company to get back into operation and enable you to collect your gold.

In the event Bank Negara Malaysia releases Genneva Malaysia with conditions, subject to the conditions, the company would likely advise on what the decision would be to enable you to collect your gold which may not be 100%. This is but a guide.

Bank Negara Malaysia charges GMSB and the case drags. This is but a guide.


Point to note for all consultants and customers :

** Photocopy all the Genneva Malaysia queue number slips. As the slip is of thermal print out, a photocopy of the queue number slips is advisable.

Meantime, we continue to remain calm and pray for positive outcome.

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QUOTE(arubin @ Nov 24 2012, 01:59 PM)
Yet another Catch-22 right there. 'Leaderless Revolution' with a 'Steering Committee'.  rclxub.gif
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The steering committee is too skewed towards protecting the directors and the company. Notice no mention of any options to sue the company or directors for delay in delivering gold or payment of monies (a gross breach of contract). If its a straightforward buy and sell transaction, as all of them claimed, payment and handing of gold should be made immediate.

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Quote from Pat Lulu:
"ADMINS' STAND: With immediate effect, we will not hesitate to ban commentators and detractors who suggest to sue Genneva management and the likes. There is absolutely no grounds for it. Why?"

Simple, GM management was running a massive ponzi scam cheating uncles, aunties, retirees, disabled, terminally ill patients etc out of billions of ringgit causing so much pain, mental anguish and suffering to thousands. CONsultants like Lulu had abetted and perpetuated the process. Genneva were on the verge of collapse like all ponzi schemes as they were unsustainable and had already collapsed in Singapore. There were lots of tell-tale signs of imminent collapse due to the long delays in delivering of gold and payments of hibah and buy-backs. Good grounds to sue Genneva for MASSIVE FRAUD, misrepresentation, cheating and breach of contract. THAT'S WHY!!!

(Cult queen, Pat Lulu gets rat ass mad. Tries to defend the indefensible and puts her beloved directors on the divine pedestal. Again uses God's name in vain. Insanity rules.)


http://www.facebook.com/notes/genneva-mala...295353690582529

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QUOTE(arubin @ Nov 26 2012, 01:52 AM)
Holy cow! Has anyone seen the Genneva Gold for Dummies post? I'm too sleepy to think up counterpoints right now. Its ridiculously long so I'm not even going to paste it here. Go read for yourself.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/genneva-mala...295716147212950
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Genneva Gold 101 for Dummies by Savana Sim is a BIG LIE. It's contents are nothing but lies and half truths and one must really be a dummy to believe this bullshit.

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QUOTE(terry8 @ Nov 26 2012, 09:09 AM)
I don't think I want to waste any more time on this GMS people. Eventually the truth will be revealed. One cannot hide the fire with pieces of papers of lies.
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Me too Terry, GMS is a total waste of time. It's all about brain washing and mind control - AN EXERCISE IN FUTILITY. Whatever they say and do, ultimately it's the findings of BNM's investigation that will decide the outcome of assets frozen. I have wasted so much time over Pat Lulu's utter rubbish.

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QUOTE(terry8 @ Nov 26 2012, 02:30 PM)
I admire your energy - how can your rebuttal of their articles reach these people ? Even a more difficult question - how can one help them to accept that they have been scammed and living in denial ?
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The rebuttal has already reached them, trust me. I know many Sr. CONS and CONs are fan of LYNs. Rayman = Rayma is a testimony to this fact.
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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Nov 26 2012, 03:52 PM)
Genneva's reaction: YEAY!!! YOU SEE!!! TUN M SAID THERE'S NOTHING WRONG, he CANT SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH IT.

Other ppl : You DOn't say?
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But I thought he was only there for the door gift!! LOL
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QUOTE(Salvador_Dali @ Nov 29 2012, 07:28 AM)
Good Cop Bad Cop

Pat Lu is the admin of GMS, just like how the founders of Genneva Malaysia are also the founder of GBeam, ....., thus she has control over the content and mind, redirecting their anger towards BNM instead of GM and the founders.

Pat Lu is just too chicken to lead the group, that is why she created the 'leaderless revolution' title for the anti-lynas article, when it is obvious Mr.Wong is the leader. Abdul Wahab will be the fall guy, that's for sure.
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She instigated the 'March to Putrajaya' on the second day itself on fb followed by the 'Occupy Putrajaya' to join the Bestino group. But like you say she was chicken, dare NOT declare herself as leader for fear of being arrested, thrown in the slammer and fined RM10,000. So she deviously came out with the 'leaderless revolution' bullshit. Later the so-called ghost committee put their foot down and said NO, they have to do the proper way according to Peaceful Assembly Act 2012 which requires permission from authorities. Lulu was hopping mad. So when ppl like Wahab and Sani suggested a march without permission and after the Anti-Lynas demo, she decided to deviously poke fire again by using Wong Tack as an excuse to start her 'leaderless revolution' BS again and to feel vindicated (syiok sendiri). Anyway, the Himpunan Hijau march has leaders and was well organised. The proposed GM one is a shame and a sham...all keyboard warriors, zero, zilch!!

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QUOTE(Desvaro @ Nov 30 2012, 12:15 PM)
Let's go there, bring a cooler box, and sell some drinks to them. Put up a sign saying we accept payment in gold.
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Payment in gold must be accompanied with assayer's cert especially the Genneva ones. Or do we even want to accept any Genneva gold??

Don't want tungsten, not even as payment for mineral water!!

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