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 Genneva Malaysia V3, Raided on 1st Oct 2012.

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post Nov 2 2012, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(arubin @ Nov 1 2012, 11:59 PM)
Have you ever studied accounting? Do you know what a balance sheet is? Do some research before we take this any further, else you're just wasting everyone's time.
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Yes i totally agree with you. Better ask that guy whether he has seen Genneva's balance sheet in the last couple of years. They didnt even submit their accounts. Genneva has many pseudo experts in accounting and economics. But they certainly do have real experts in marketing and spinning.

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QUOTE(terry8 @ Nov 2 2012, 06:32 PM)
Yes i totally agree with you. Better ask that guy whether he has seen Genneva's balance sheet in the  last couple of years. They didnt even submit their accounts. Genneva has many pseudo experts in accounting and economics. But they certainly do have real experts in marketing and spinning.
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do they have an audit company? company worth what? 10billions transactions... should be audit by some big4 what...
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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Nov 2 2012, 06:51 PM)
do they have an audit company?  company worth what? 10billions transactions... should be audit by some big4 what...
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How can audit? then the secret formula blue ocean trade secrets would be known to all and sundry !!
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The gold kept by the customer is worth of how many % from their investment? 70-80%?
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post Nov 2 2012, 07:22 PM

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I just read this from GMS FB page. Anybody can verify what was really in the ntv 7 news ?
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post Nov 2 2012, 07:31 PM

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5.30pm is mandarin news ... 8pm is english news sure will repeat same news just stay tune


Added on November 2, 2012, 7:38 pmchinapress

財政部副部長阿旺阿迪駁斥金玉華(Genneva)黃金投資公司,將在這一兩天內獲國行解凍的傳聞。

translate : DFM said do not trust the rumors of BNM will de-froze Genneva in 1-2 days time.

the sms news at the top left corner...
http://www.chinapress.com.my

am confuse now...

but i wish they lift the frozen and return "ALL" the gold and money .. let's see if they able to give back hibah and gold to ALL customers or not. inb4 Pat Lu said raided and frozen 1 month their business cannot move hence making a lost.

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post Nov 2 2012, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Nov 2 2012, 07:31 PM)
5.30pm is mandarin news ... 8pm is english news sure will repeat same news just stay tune


Added on November 2, 2012, 7:38 pmchinapress

財政部副部長阿旺阿迪駁斥金玉華(Genneva)黃金投資公司,將在這一兩天內獲國行解凍的傳聞。

translate : DFM said do not trust the rumors of BNM will de-froze Genneva in 1-2 days time.

the sms news at the top left corner...
http://www.chinapress.com.my

am confuse now...

but i wish they lift the frozen and return "ALL" the gold and money .. let's see if they able to give back hibah and gold to ALL customers or not. inb4 Pat Lu said raided and frozen 1 month their business cannot move hence making a lost.
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post Nov 2 2012, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(terry8 @ Nov 2 2012, 07:22 PM)
I just read this from GMS FB page. Anybody can verify what was really in the ntv 7 news ?
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There wasn't anything on the 8.00 pm news so I gather it's a hoax.

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post Nov 2 2012, 08:08 PM

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they are so desperate now that they resort to spreading fake news?

damn these people got some very thick head.
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post Nov 2 2012, 08:45 PM

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wow... hardcore supporters still havent run out of steam... rclxms.gif
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post Nov 2 2012, 08:48 PM

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The Gen fanboys will start to panic when GOLD price starts falling and they can't sell 'em because of the freeze by BNM..
The sovereign funds are unloading now in the world market... biggrin.gif

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post Nov 2 2012, 09:22 PM

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fuuuu.. shit.... i not sure this got english news or not..

http://www.sinchew.com.my/node/266935?tid=1

副財長:金玉華部分錢財或轉移出國‧近期完成調查不可能
2012-11-02 19:13

(吉隆坡2日訊)財政部副部長拿督阿旺阿迪表示,政府會確保金玉華黃金貿易公司(Genneva(馬))的調查對每個人都公正,因為當中涉及許多人及龐大錢財。

他披露:“他們(國行)也要追蹤一些錢財或已不在這裡(國內),可能已經轉出國外,這也是為何我們要與國際執法單位合作。"提到金玉華的顧問代理限國行在1週內回复調查結果之事,阿旺阿迪表示此事就交給國行處理。


他個人認為,要在週內完成調查,這是不可能做到的事。

他是今日出席在財政部舉行的“2012年革新日"推介禮後如此說。

DFM: Genneva transferred part of the money abroad, impossible for early completion of the investigation
2012-11-02 19:13

(Kuala Lumpur, Bernama) - Deputy Finance Minister Datuk Awang Adek said, the Government will ensure that the investigation on Genneva gold trading company gives everyone justice, because it's involving many people and huge sum of money.

He disclosed: "They (BNM) have to track some of the money is not here (domestic), may have been transferred out of the country, which is why we want to cooperate with the international law enforcement." when mentioned BNM investigation findings carried out with Genneva's consultant for a week, Awang Adek said that the matter is handed over to the BNM for processing.

His personal view, in the weeks to complete the investigation, this is an impossible thing.

He gave this interview while attending the "2012 Innovation Day " event held by the Ministry of Finance today.
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post Nov 2 2012, 09:30 PM

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i c a lot of butthurts with genneva members then genneva sdn bhd itself. hahaha.. anti gennevarians vs pro gennevarians.

the one that is so anti has to sunk their fangs for blood everyday here just to feed their vampire's heart.. poor soul.

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post Nov 2 2012, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(hackwire @ Nov 2 2012, 09:30 PM)
i c a lot of butthurts with genneva members then genneva sdn bhd itself. hahaha.. anti gennevarians vs pro gennevarians.

the one that is so anti has to sunk their fangs for blood everyday here just to feed their vampire's heart.. poor soul.
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post Nov 2 2012, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(hackwire @ Nov 2 2012, 09:30 PM)
i c a lot of butthurts with genneva members then genneva sdn bhd itself. hahaha.. anti gennevarians vs pro gennevarians.

the one that is so anti has to sunk their fangs for blood everyday here just to feed their vampire's heart.. poor soul.
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hello fence sitter. most butthurt as we all know fence has torns. laugh.gif
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post Nov 2 2012, 09:39 PM

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i only see politics and poor handling of the govt. to allow such co to run for more than few years and only taking action now is purely unacceptable. what will happen if enforcement are so slow to act. there are many things that govt fails to enforce like petaling street bootleg products and imitations. it's always the good cop and bad cop roll. one time they close one eye because of who and who connection and later something bad , things can go down like that.


Added on November 2, 2012, 9:41 pm
QUOTE(debbierowe @ Nov 2 2012, 09:37 PM)
hello fence sitter. most butthurt as we all know fence has torns.  laugh.gif
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aiya, u watch too much TVB lah. i know u like drama a lot ... laugh.gif

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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Nov 2 2012, 06:51 PM)
do they have an audit company?  company worth what? 10billions transactions... should be audit by some big4 what...
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Supposedly, they have submitted audited reports to BNM on a regular basis. Question is, audit by who? Madoff was also audited regularly. The firm responsible has also been charged and sued for perpetrating the scam.

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QUOTE(hackwire @ Nov 2 2012, 09:39 PM)
i only see politics and poor handling of the govt. to allow such co to run for more than few years and only taking action now is purely unacceptable. what will happen if enforcement are so slow to act. there are many things that govt fails to enforce like petaling street bootleg products and imitations. it's always the good cop and bad cop roll. one time they close one eye because of who and who connection and later something bad , things can go down like that.


Added on November 2, 2012, 9:41 pm
aiya, u watch too much TVB lah. i know u like drama a lot ... laugh.gif
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back to where u start comparing banks with genneva. at least i watch drama but i still know what is balance sheet


Added on November 2, 2012, 9:48 pm
QUOTE(arubin @ Nov 2 2012, 09:44 PM)
Supposedly, they have submitted audited reports to BNM on a regular basis. Question is, audit by who? Madoff was also audited regularly. The firm responsible has also been charged and sued for perpetrating the scam.
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same la.. like Enron was audited by Arthur Andersen used to be one of the big 5... but after the scandal both RIP together.
but Genneva can name their auditor or not, if its some E&Y, PWC?? lol altho i know impossibru

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QUOTE(hackwire @ Nov 2 2012, 09:39 PM)
i only see politics and poor handling of the govt. to allow such co to run for more than few years and only taking action now is purely unacceptable. what will happen if enforcement are so slow to act. there are many things that govt fails to enforce like petaling street bootleg products and imitations. it's always the good cop and bad cop roll. one time they close one eye because of who and who connection and later something bad , things can go down like that.
The question is how does the govt know they're illegal unless they're probed? How do they probe unless someone complains? The GenM scheme is under the radar because they're using the gold trading as loophole because there is absolutely no regulation on this. I'm not defending the authority but I think GenM masterminds have found this gold trading loophole and exploiting it.


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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Nov 2 2012, 09:45 PM)
back to where u start comparing banks with genneva. at least i watch drama but i still know what is balance sheet


Added on November 2, 2012, 9:48 pm
same la.. like Enron was audited by Arthur Andersen used to be one of the big 5... but after the scandal both RIP together.
but Genneva can name their auditor or not, if its some E&Y, PWC?? lol altho i know impossibru
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Pat lu in facebook is your nemesis? i noticed u following the genneva facaebook and comment here everywhere.. poor soul. if u are not the member, why u so butthurt ? everyday i c u coming in and comment in facebook and here. did they hurt your feeling so much? rolleyes.gif


Added on November 2, 2012, 10:05 pm
QUOTE(danmooncake @ Nov 2 2012, 09:59 PM)
The question is how does the govt know they're illegal unless they're probed? How do they probe unless someone complains? The GenM scheme is under the radar because they're using the gold trading as loophole because there is absolutely no regulation on this. I'm not defending the authority but I think GenM masterminds have found this gold trading loophole and exploiting it.
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yes i read about it too. so , what happen to the directors now? nobody seem to be handcuffed in the news?

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