Hong Leong Bank

Senior Manager · Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia



Standard Chartered Bank

Senior Manager Credit

After reading this thread from version 1 to version 3 I came to the following conclusions

1. Nobody here knows what they are talking about.
2. Everyone trying to sound like an expert on what actually happened but end up sounding like idiots.
3. No one actually interested in the truth. Just want to talk for the sake of talking.

Is BR1M a scam too???
hibah??

After reading this thread from version 1 to version 3 I came to the following conclusions

1. Nobody here knows what they are talking about.
2. Everyone trying to sound like an expert on what actually happened but end up sounding like idiots.
3. No one actually interested in the truth. Just want to talk for the sake of talking.

This fella.........Kim Siang Ng. i guess another Genneva beneficiary
Would YOU trust him being yer BANKER?   

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Added on November 1, 2012, 8:57 am

i read that above description as you.............. 

And your nick is tipu? 
I already look at his profile very long time. Senior Manager in Hong Leong bank? OMG.. I think I'll take all my money out from Hong Leong already. What types people bank are hiring nowaday? 

I find tipuism pretty amusing. Anyway, everyone's still waiting for the truth from BNM.

If you read all tipuism post, he just go and troll in every single thread. He even to troll in Christianity thread. LOL.

Anyway, the truth already out. BNM say liability more than asset. Money not enough to return to customer. Gone case already. 

Methinks MANY Banksters are involved with this ler........   

Weird though. I thought bankers are involve in fiat money. Why involve in gold scheme which condemn fiat money?

I always read and watch propaganda by gold seller regarding fiat money. When I first read and watch the movie, I thought, wow, the bank has cheat us all this time.

Then nowaday, I start to think. is this some kind of propaganda by people who have vested interest in gold trading?

I mean, if you're gold trader that hoards a lot of gold, you would want to spread propaganda to push up the price and people buy gold from you.

Anyway, its just my thinking.

I still not make decision whether gold vs fiat is some kind of infighting between two sides which has their own vested interest.

I do keep some gold due to this kind of propaganda. 

Attention: Tuan Mazlan Ahmad, Enforcement Unit, Bank Negara



A senior consultant sent 10 valid and fair questions. He does have some good points and perhaps Bank Negara can answer his questions in their next press statement.



1.    Genneva's business model was adopted by competitors. Why were they not  reprimanded? 

Because you were Unlucky!  We have not finished with everyone yet.



2.    Genneva business model works and Genneva never failed to pay all monies due since it started in 2010. How can BNM together with PDRM, without fully understanding the business model; raid, freeze the companies  account and cart away 200kg of gold and boxes of documents?

Madoff started in 1960 before he was done in 2008.........48 years .....no problemo


3.    Many allegations made against Genneva that went through the spectrum of money laundering to illegal deposit taking. However, the business existed for more than 3years and was openly conducted. Her events were even graced by dignitaries. Why didn’t BNM stop or issue a statement to deter these dignitaries from gracing Genneva's events and functions if BNM had their suspicions?

As a consequence, the presence of these dignitaries had an influencing effect on many more of the public who were further drawn into the business, the public that BNM claims to protect. Therefore, was this a trap that BNM set up for the public?

Madoff was chair of Nasdaq...so?  Dignitaries can also be hoodwinked and scammed....afteralll they are only human beings!


4.    Can Genneva appoint an independent auditor to report on the business model. If it can prove the business to be authentic, will the money, gold and documents be returned? How soon?

Yes. You can. In COURT.


5.    BNM has continually used the excuse of protecting the interests of the public and customers from dubious business practices but how can they say that when? At the time of the raid:



           a.   Cheques for hibah, sales, gold and other disbursements and were being distributed.

           b.   Customers as well as consultants are standing resolutely behind this business.

           c.   The very people BNM claimed to protect are now anxiously waiting for the return of gold and monies that was taken as a direct action of BNM and not the company.

Are you hard of hearing? There were reports of LATE payments and delivery......RED FLAGS!

6.    Can BNM release the money and gold belonging to the customers while conducting it’s investigations? By doing so BNM can then actually claim to protect the customers interests. After that, issue a stop business order and let the business owners challenge the order?

NO....ALL are evidence to be used in the event of PROSecution. Only after resolution can the balances of assets
be distributed to VICTIMS ONLY. That excludes consultants who have gained in the form of introductory commissions. AND they may subjected to prosecution for abetting in an illegal scheme

7.    If BNM charged that the business is ‘unsustainable’, the business owners must be allowed to challenge the order at an independent location to avoid the bias of the bank’s "executive powers." If the process of challenge is not  allowed, BNM may have destroyed an innovative business model which might have contributed to the wealth of many!

A COURT is an INDEPENDANT location

8.    BNM must act fast to release the money and gold that they have seized, as this is cash that many use to pay all sort of bills. Already the emotional turmoil is escalating, tensions are rising as individuals  stand at the precipice of a financial disaster. Many are unable to receive medical attention and medication; some have critical medical conditions and may even face death. If these tragedies do occur, can BNM be held responsible? The hibah seized by BNM is used for paying such bills.

We undersatnd your predication. However investemnet advice points you to NOT use monies required for Daily living.
As far as medication is concerned, the gomen hospitals can assist.

9.    BNM has consistently projected an "image of accountability" to the public by raiding Genneva. But how can the public be sure that the prosecution is correct if there is no detailed published report for customers of Genneva to examine?

There will be all transparency in a COURT of law where the public will be able to have acess to that.

10.    It is so easy for BNM to project the image of protecting the public by raiding but the recent action on Genneva was doubtful, and so can customers, and the public conduct an independent audit on BNM on their current actions including other unapproved dealings that may have resulted in losses of within the Malaysian treasury?

You CAN ask for that through your MPs.

Thank You for your letter 

Weird though. I thought bankers are involve in fiat money. Why involve in gold scheme which condemn fiat money?

I always read and watch propaganda by gold seller regarding fiat money. When I first read and watch the movie, I thought, wow, the bank has cheat us all this time.

Then nowaday, I start to think. is this some kind of propaganda by people who have vested interest in gold trading?

I mean, if you're gold trader that hoards a lot of gold, you would want to spread propaganda to push up the price and people buy gold from you.

Anyway, its just my thinking.

I still not make decision whether gold vs fiat is some kind of infighting between two sides which has their own vested interest.

I do keep some gold due to this kind of propaganda. 

Andrew is what we call

Probably lost his shirt and PANTS as well!

http://www.facebook.com/GennevaGoldNeutral...286190191498879

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Added on November 1, 2012, 9:25 am
Theres a CONspiracy theory that the Major Gold traders in the the country is using Genneva to up their sales..... 

gold is dangerous. not just genneva. it has no justification on its price vs value, as opposed to silver, for example. not just genneva, all gold fanatics should take caution. just my 2 cents though

maybe gamen see genneva have a lot of gold, decided to raid them, confiscate the gold and sell them secretly to fund election. then they will claim this gold forever remain as evidence. shit happens in bolehland

Gold is not dangerous...its does not BITe!  
Genneva does bite you up where sun dont shine.....

Justification of gold price? Try the USD and US DEBT......

Its just your two sens vs my gold at Rm5500 from Rm1200 in 2002............  Gold CRAZzeee    

Gold is not dangerous...its does not BITe! 
Genneva does bite you up where sun dont shine.....

Justification of gold price? Try the USD and US DEBT......

Its just your two sens vs my gold at Rm5500 from Rm1200 in 2002............  Gold CRAZzeee   

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Added on November 1, 2012, 9:29 am
Not just in Bolehland.

Land of the free as well........theories says there is NOMORE gold in fort knox!   

Guess the price of gold if that news is proven!   

congrats to you on that   

After reading this thread from version 1 to version 3 I came to the following conclusions

1. Nobody here knows what they are talking about.
2. Everyone trying to sound like an expert on what actually happened but end up sounding like idiots.
3. No one actually interested in the truth. Just want to talk for the sake of talking.

Wow!! What a perfect description of yourself!!

       

maybe gamen see genneva have a lot of gold, decided to raid them, confiscate the gold and sell them secretly to fund election. then they will claim this gold forever remain as evidence. shit happens in bolehland