This is exactly what we have been saying all along. One can be charged for making a false report and here we have Pat Lulu urging people in droves to make police reports against BNM while she sits back and eat popcorn. She is really leading the GMS sheep to the slaughter and these sheeple can fall for it. Bank Negara raided GMSB so GMSB is the direct party that should make the police report or have the locus standi to take legal action against BNM. At the moment they are maintaining their disgusting silence and paying Lulu to incite and instigate.

The investors are merely THIRD PARTY to this episode. Get it, Lulu & Dee Casey!!! Investors, for heaven's sake, don't listen to these loyar buruks or you'll get yourself in deep shit. YOU CAN MAKE A REPORT AGAINST GENNEVA BUT NOT BANK NEGARA!!

This post has been edited by Akonn: Dec 29 2012, 10:33 PM

I have NOT seen Pat lulu's police report and neither of Dee Casey's, the two main instigators. Talk is cheap, lets see some leadership by example.

Kenneth Brunt: Technically, BNM did not take our gold and money, but Genneva's gold and money. On what basis do we make police report against BNM? Unless the gold/money had already been given to us, and as we are walking out of Genneva office that day, BNM came and took it away from us. Then, we have a case. In other words, if robbers rob Genneva office of its gold, can we say that the robbers took the customer's gold? So, if we want to make police report against BNM, on what legal basis do we have the right to do so, Dee Casey?

<< Kenneth's question which got Dee Casey stumped and he responded with lame EXCUSES. >>

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Added on December 30, 2012, 7:23 pmPat Lulu: Why Admins are invisible? ... well, we picked that up from DC Comics... Batman, Spiderman, Superman, Ironman ... and soon becoming The Avengers Malaysian Style as more joins us on board to fight evil spreading across the land.

** digs into popcorn while watching out for villains at GMS FB page.
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SuperCON, Ponzi Woman or Super B***H is more like it. ** forever digs into her popcorn while watching all the sheep go to the slaughter.

This post has been edited by Akonn: Dec 30 2012, 08:58 PM

Count me in. Looking forward to that day and meeting the Clark Kents and Peter Parkers of LYN.

But please don't invite the CONS like Pat Lu, Shereen, Andrew or Dee Crazy....will only spoil our session...hee hee

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Added on December 31, 2012, 7:02 amLulu is not satisfied in just fleecing all the sheep naked....she also wants to have them SLAUGHTERED!!

Most dastardly indeed!

This post has been edited by Akonn: Dec 31 2012, 07:03 AM

Aiyah, want to wait 10 years for a teh tarik mamak...hmmm..then we are no better than Dee Casey, man!!

Care for a glass of beer, wine or teh tarik ..... "follow the pace.... things will be done "in good time" or "in good stride". That's because I have always believed in doing the right thing at the right time." ha ha ha

This post has been edited by Akonn: Dec 31 2012, 04:12 PM

My guess: Pat Lu=Raynman=Rayma=Pat Eagle=Lulu and definitely NOT Burnnut Luu

Terry, what if some have more than 5 alter egos - cross gender, cross race & ethnicity like in the movie CLOUD ATLAS ....

HAPPY NEW YEAR 2013 everyone. Wishing the best for genuine Genneva victims in this coming year. May you be compensated for your loss.

This post has been edited by Akonn: Jan 1 2013, 12:14 AM

Yes, that's exactly what I meant too. I could be some Ang Moh guy, Jenny Lim, Dee Casey, Nora Ideris, Md Sani, Raj Sami, Travis Loong I, II or III. Heck I can also be Pat Lu...ha ha ha

This post has been edited by Akonn: Jan 1 2013, 12:21 AM

I totally agree. The GMS page is actually extremely negative spewing hatred and resentment, libel and slander and inciting and instigating investors to go against the authorities. I also feel it should be SHUT DOWN immediately before some unfortunate incident happens. The admin always claims that ppl who make comments not in line with theirs, as fools, mean spirited and very negative but brother they should take a long hard look at themselves. Perhaps those people and authorities they slander should make a police report against the admin and some of these hostile commentators and let the police investigate. Facebook should also be reported for this webpage has the potential to incite hatred and violence.



This post has been edited by Akonn: Jan 1 2013, 02:26 PM

Ha ha ha... I don't think you have the slighest clue of who or what PatLulu really is.

This post has been edited by Akonn: Jan 1 2013, 08:23 PM

Please read the posting carefully. He NEVER claimed that I have a fake account. Furthermore he was just being sacarstic and hitting out at GMS in a subtle way. And if you were to read earlier postings, we were actually discussing about alter egos on GMS not LYN. FYI I don't have to 'explain myself' to you.

Talking about fake and dupes, I don't think amalthea is your real name and you're certainly not from Hamburg.

This post has been edited by Akonn: Jan 1 2013, 09:18 PM

Casey was partially correct when he mentioned about the 90 day period. Section 44 (5) of AMLATFA reads:

44 (5) An order made under subsection (1) shall cease to have effect after ninety days from the date of the order, if the person against whom the order was made has not been charged with an offence under this Act or a terrorism financing offence, as the case may be.

Note: The order will ceased to have any effect if the perpetrators are NOT CHARGED after ninety (90) days after the order was made.

However the property may be subjected to forfeiture even where there is no prosecution. Section 56(1) of AMLATFA states that:

56. (1) Subject to section 61, where in respect of any property frozen or seized under this Act there is no prosecution or conviction for an offence under subsection 4(1) or a terrorism financing offence, the Public Prosecutor may, before the expiration of twelve months from the date of the freeze or seizure, apply to a judge of the High Court for an order of forfeiture of that property if he is satisfied that such property had been obtained as a result of or in connection with an offence under subsection 4(1) or a terrorism financing offence, as the case may be, or is terrorist property.

Note: This section relates to the instance where the properties are frozen or seized but there is no prosecution or conviction of anybody. The Public Prosecutor (PP) may, before the expiry of 12 months from the date of the freeze or seizure, apply to the court to forfeit the properties if he is satisfied that the properties have been illegally obtained as a result of an offence under section 4(1). However if at the expiration of the 12 months period, no application is made by the PP, the seized property will be released back to the accused.

This act of forfeiture has happened before as in the Gold Label case:

BNM’s completed investigations then led to a court action in 2011 where the government filed for a civil forfeiture under Section 56(1) of AMLATFA at the Kuala Lumpur High Court. The Gold Label directors were not charged even before the lapse of 12 months after seizure.

http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...the-same-brush/

Casey's focus was ONLY on Section 44 (5) of AMLATFA. He failed to mention that the Directors of present Genneva are also investigated under subsection 25(1) Banking and Financial Institutions Act 1989 (BAFIA) i.e. illegal deposit taking. BAFIA as far as I know does NOT impose any deadlines as to the period of investigation. Therefore BNM basically can drag their investigation much longer than the 90 day limit as touted by Dee Casey under the vast powers of BOTH BAFIA and AMLATFA.

This post has been edited by Akonn: Jan 2 2013, 03:02 PM

It's better this way. They will never accept BNM's investigative findings even though it may be objective and done professionally. Even now Shereen is screaming that 'sustainability' is NOT the issue. They are really afraid that audit findings from both KPMG and PwH will show that liabilities far, far exceeds assets proving that Genneva is a ponzi scheme that is not sustainable and directors have transferred huge amounts of assets overseas. Anyway what is sure is that investors will NOT be able to claim the full amount they lost upon completion of the judicial process which may take a while.

I'm glad that Donald Lim has given some assurance that investigation will be completed some time this month. It won't be a Happy Chinese New Year for many though....the snakes had their way but will be nabbed as they attempt to slither away. It will not be their Year for this bunch of Snakes in Kuchai Lama.

This post has been edited by Akonn: Jan 2 2013, 06:48 PM

LOL...this is a comment on GMS from Chin Ngok Sheong, probably a senior and an old timer...:

"KPMG, PricewaterhouseCooper cannot understand Gmsb account books. it is written Chinaman style."

Don't worry Uncle...KPMG and PwC can understand anything from Chinaman to Gangnam Style.

This post has been edited by Akonn: Jan 2 2013, 08:35 PM

I don't think Dee Casey is a lawyer. He may be a paralegal or just a clerk in a law firm and pretending/claiming that he is a lawyer. That 90 day farce and rejection of police reports was indeed a big slap on his face. He also appears to be telling half/quarter truths and make it seems like its the whole truth, thus hoodwinking even the GMS sheep. Of course Lulu who knows next to nothing about law just follow him like a dumbo.

This post has been edited by Akonn: Jan 3 2013, 01:30 AM

I have strong reasons to believe that he is NOT a qualified lawyer at all, just a pretender and a FAKE. Why??

1. His legal advice are all unsound. Almost all lawyers I spoke to or read from postings said that investors have a weak case against BNM because the agreement is between the investor and Genneva and they have no locus standi to sue BNM. Now he comes out with some grand idea about a judicial review against BNM and until today has come out with nothing.

2. His call for 60,000 investors to make a police report against BNM is a dud. He himself has not made any and those who tried can tell you how futile this is and were warned against making a false report. When confronted he gives lame excuses and ask people to follow the pace. Where is the so call 'perfect' format/template police report that he promised??

3. Genneva is under investigation for a host of offences ie from illegal deposit taking, money laundering, improper documents, hiring agents without licence, tax avoidance, fraud etc....but Casey only focus on money laundering (Sec. 44(5) AMLATFA) ie the infamous 90 day period of his. A good professional lawyer would cover all areas and would NOT spew half truths focusing only on money laundering and the 90 day period. His credibility went down the drain after nothing happened after the 90-day period.

4. If one were to read his postings on GMS, he appears to be a rude, arrogant moron with a superiority complex. The way he handles himself is certainly NOT befitting of a professional lawyer.

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Added on January 3, 2013, 9:34 amBTW has any local banks closed down after General Pat Lu's order to her sheep to transfer all their money to foreign banks?? (ACTION I) Has it even caused a dent, I wonder?

This post has been edited by Akonn: Jan 3 2013, 10:18 AM

Lulu thinks she's GOD, the female Kwan Kung.....at least that's how she behaves, lording over all others and giving orders like Genneva belongs to her....she has other higher gods whose asses she's paid to watch, the Gods of Gold high up on Mount Asgaard, Kuchai Lama.

Yup, make it happen damn it!! Enough said and NATO. Where is that f* template?? Make sure you state that you were robbed in broad daylight by BNM. Also include the statement, 'BNM are robbers of gold and money of the rakyat' and that you want the police to investigate them....or else it will just be a lame, pathetic report. Finally Lulu and Casey, make doubly sure that your reports are scanned and posted including those of directors and mgmt.

My popcorn machine is running and the corns are popping now.

This post has been edited by Akonn: Jan 3 2013, 03:33 PM

A more likely scenario:

Pat Lu: "Hold your Horses!!"
Dee Casey: Hold it, don't jump the gun. Follow the pace.

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Added on January 3, 2013, 3:48 pmI won't be surprised if the whole thing turns out to be a big brouhaha and an anti-climax.

This post has been edited by Akonn: Jan 3 2013, 03:48 PM

Great Vision Advisory Group
We are financial advisory firm, licensed under Bank Negara, specialising in Financial Planning and Life Insurance.

Great Vision Advisory Group, established since 1993 as an integrated financial service group in Malaysia, has undergone remarkable transformation in the past decade.True to its name, Great Vision has developed into a confident powerhouse that stores a reservoir of expertise in areas of financial planning, tax services, business advisory services, business succession as well as personal and family wealth planning services.

Yes, he claims to be a Mortgage Loan & Financial Planning Consultant. But this is his latest profile:

Andrew Ng profiles - Assistant Sales Manager, Great Vision Associates Sdn. Bhd. Wisma MPL, Kuala Lumpur

BNM might be interested to know that this creep is working in a company fully licensed by BNM.

This post has been edited by Akonn: Jan 3 2013, 05:16 PM

From Alfred (a lawyer), admin of Malaysia Against Scam At Work to all affected investors:

As regards to assisting the Genneva investors in getting back their investment. After months of works, we have finally reach a conclusion that we have found a workable solution on the action we can take so to ensure investors get their money back.

However, due to the high possibility of Genneva directors sending spies and also their consultant who is still in full support of Genneva, we have to maintain as much secrecy as we could on the subject. It will not be our advantage if Genneva, their consultants and those politicians involve to known exact how to going to achieve getting investors their money back in full. To maintain secrecy, the following measure must be done accordingly:

1) We will only discuss the matter in person
2) Investors must show to us all actual original document
3) Investors must provide to us a photocopy of all documents that prove they are the investors
4) Investors must provide us a copy of their police report (those who have yet made a police report, we will assist you in making one)
5) Photocopy of investors I/C
6) Full details of their consultant (Full name, IC number & address or whatever information investor can provide) who had recruited them

Please note, we will not entertain any investor who:

1) Will not review their consultant involve
2) Cannot show prove of documents
3) Will not meet in person
4) Will not provide their I/C Copy
5) Ask for a list of investors involve
6) Unwilling to make a police report

Also, due to the nature of the case, the huge workload involve, cost of the entire ordeal, amount of lawyers involves, government procedures, we can only commerce the work if the following target has been achieve:

1) At least 500 investors and above had committed to the cause
2) A token of fee per investor

Any investor who wish to proceed, please drop an email to unclescam@scamrepublic.com. Please leave your name and contact number so we can arrange an appointment.

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Added on January 3, 2013, 8:43 pmOn another note, I notice that Travis Loong is into his fourth reincarnation - Travis Loong IV. Man, he has been banned 3 times already and still not giving up. Good for him.

This post has been edited by Akonn: Jan 3 2013, 08:43 PM