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post Oct 29 2012, 11:11 AM

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isn't Suzuki owned by Volkswagen?
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post Oct 29 2012, 11:16 AM

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more butthurts as more rebadge cars
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post Oct 29 2012, 11:24 AM

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It wont make any sense if Proton's main strategic partner is Suzuki. Suzuki is just a small player and it is owned by VW. VW already distancing themselves from Proton.

The only logical partner is Honda right now. I thought it was Mitsubishi but looks like Mitsubishi won't want to return back again. wink.gif

Interesting choice will be Toyota. Although already own Perodua indirectly, ever remember of consolidating Proton and Perodua? This may make much sense, actually. UMWT is afterall, an GLC.
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post Oct 29 2012, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(daruma @ Oct 29 2012, 10:03 AM)
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if Choose TATA is the partner, malaysia will produce lots of Pajero, Jeeps, SUV for malaysian ^^

I love the TATA Brand alot, their car all is damn ganas de...
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post Oct 29 2012, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(HanzoRacing @ Oct 29 2012, 11:24 AM)
It wont make any sense if Proton's main strategic partner is Suzuki. Suzuki is just a small player and it is owned by VW. VW already distancing themselves from Proton.

The only logical partner is Honda right now. I thought it was Mitsubishi but looks like Mitsubishi won't want to return back again. wink.gif

Interesting choice will be Toyota. Although already own Perodua indirectly, ever remember of consolidating Proton and Perodua? This may make much sense, actually. UMWT is afterall, an GLC.
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It is more like Proton didnt want Mitsubishi. Mitsubishi promise tehcnology transfer, but that never materialized. They want partner who can co-developed engine for them.
Any foreign partner who are willing to do that is the new partner for Proton.
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post Oct 29 2012, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(HanzoRacing @ Oct 29 2012, 11:24 AM)
It wont make any sense if Proton's main strategic partner is Suzuki. Suzuki is just a small player and it is owned by VW. VW already distancing themselves from Proton.

The only logical partner is Honda right now. I thought it was Mitsubishi but looks like Mitsubishi won't want to return back again. wink.gif

Interesting choice will be Toyota. Although already own Perodua indirectly, ever remember of consolidating Proton and Perodua? This may make much sense, actually. UMWT is afterall, an GLC.
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without VW, suzuki is not a small player. suzuki just not able to break in SEA market. this is one of the reason why they are eying p1. they are one of the top 10 players in the world. India no. 1. Not surprise if they want a manufacturing hub in SEA, and P1 tg malim plant is ready. Suzuki have decent diesel engine that might move to P1 model for export in the future.

T and H both enjoying high margin business and decent volume in sales. Highly unlikely they want to move to lower margin high volume business in malaysia and bring down the current model value.


Mit is not a top 10 player as according to the news, it is one of the top 10 players.

Nissan a unlikely dark horse.

But again, not sure what type of technical input is p1 looking for. Perdana replacement, engine supplier, or platform supplier for compact car??
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Oct 29 2012, 12:36 PM)
It is more like Proton didnt want Mitsubishi.  Mitsubishi promise tehcnology transfer, but that never materialized.  They want partner who can co-developed engine for them.
Any foreign partner who are willing to do that is the new partner for Proton.
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Mitsubishi - number one conman. Ask Hyundai for details.

VW - loves to control. Even want to control how youre going to pee in your own bathroom.

Toyota - Only think of how to make money. Make crap cars with lowest spec for asian, and charge them high (Same in Indo, Thai, Malaysia, Phil). P2 Engineers can attest to this statement (Vulva use 200 ~ 350 MPa HTS, Mira Avy spec is 300~500 MPa)

Suzuki - Family business. K-cars and Maruti. Enough said.

GM - Truck maker. And Bumblebee.

Ford - burnt money from Volvo, Jaguar, LR, Aston.

PSA - cannot sell own cars, even rebadge cars have issues

Renault/Nissan - Have other partner and want cash upfront in every dealing (transmission, engines, etc) Bad experience from Waja 1.8 and Savvy, heck even Renault starting to use Nissan engines/components.

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post Oct 29 2012, 11:50 AM

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good la with Honda.

recently all honda models SOHC engine. so the new civic can be Wira 1.3/1.5 replacement.

gooding strategy.
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post Oct 29 2012, 11:53 AM

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Proton is 'deadweight' - any partners is only looking at the 'manufacturing infrastructures' and also the potential of using MY as a 'hub' centre.
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post Oct 29 2012, 11:55 AM

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But proton car signal knob is already on the left!!! This must be not true!!
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post Oct 29 2012, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(HanzoRacing @ Oct 29 2012, 11:24 AM)
It wont make any sense if Proton's main strategic partner is Suzuki. Suzuki is just a small player and it is owned by VW. VW already distancing themselves from Proton.

The only logical partner is Honda right now. I thought it was Mitsubishi but looks like Mitsubishi won't want to return back again. wink.gif

Interesting choice will be Toyota. Although already own Perodua indirectly, ever remember of consolidating Proton and Perodua? This may make much sense, actually. UMWT is afterall, an GLC.
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VW got 19.9% stake in suzuki , not owned.

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The partnership beween Volkswagen and Suzuki is more than two years old, yet in that time, more acrimony and court proceedings have been created than jointly developed products – not hard to do when that product number is zero. Continent-crossing accusations have included Suzuki being upset at how VW has characterized the relationship and that VW hasn't shared its technology, while the German automaker has been miffed at Suzuki buying diesel engines from Fiat.

Suzuki filed for arbitration in London and hopes to compel VW to sell back the 19.9-percent stake it took in Suzuki in 2009. A line in VW's annual report, however, reads that it "considers the claims to be unfounded and has itself filed counterclaims." VW doesn't expect a court decision on Suzuki's arbitration to come before 2013. We know they say it's always darkest before the dawn, but we have a feeling the sun won't be rising on this union for quite some time.

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post Oct 29 2012, 12:14 PM

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My bet is Nissan.
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post Oct 29 2012, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Oct 29 2012, 12:14 PM)
My bet is Nissan.
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Proton saga + Nissan nissan xtronic cvt drool.gif
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post Oct 29 2012, 12:28 PM

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on a serious note - probably nissan.

read in a news before the gomen is planning to replace their official car the perdana to nissan fuga.

dayum.
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post Oct 29 2012, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(MugenConcept @ Oct 29 2012, 10:01 AM)
Potong please tutup je..... nobody wants you!
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post Oct 29 2012, 12:31 PM

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NO matter wat, i just wonder all players can still play after songlap? whistling.gif
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Fckin proton tutup kedai la ~!
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QUOTE(kepalaparut @ Oct 29 2012, 12:28 PM)
on a serious note - probably nissan.

read in a news before the gomen is planning to replace their official car the perdana to nissan fuga.

dayum.
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yeah the news that was originated by hack3line

well you just got hack3lined son
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post Oct 29 2012, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Oct 29 2012, 11:36 AM)
It is more like Proton didnt want Mitsubishi.  Mitsubishi promise tehcnology transfer, but that never materialized.  They want partner who can co-developed engine for them.
Any foreign partner who are willing to do that is the new partner for Proton.
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The only things transfer is money from Msia to Japan
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post Oct 29 2012, 01:56 PM

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ermmmm.... Nissan willing to transfer their knowledge? Imagine R35 with Proton badge.

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