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shamsulyahya
post Oct 24 2012, 09:34 PM


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hi guys, need advice as currently looking for c segment car (cheaper better), my priority is looking for safe n comfy car, such as with abs,ebd,esp,vcs etc, min 2 airbags, the more the better,

multi link instead tosion beam as prefer comfy ride, also BEST NVH n comfy soft ride... as not into racing mode etc... alr hv family n plan hv kids etc...

apprecite for oppinions... thx n cheers... notworthy.gif

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post Oct 24 2012, 09:43 PM


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In b4 inspira FTW
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post Oct 24 2012, 09:50 PM


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100k budget will limit you to the Forte and Inspira. Personally I prefer Forte due to its cabin which has a more premium feel compared to Inspira. If you can spend more, best choice would be Focus at 118k if I'm not mistaken.
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post Oct 24 2012, 09:58 PM


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Forte. below 100k, your best choice.
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post Oct 24 2012, 09:59 PM


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post Oct 24 2012, 10:03 PM


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thx guys, lets say increase budget ard 120k, any better idea, as sat before forte 1.6, the suspension keras sial.. cant take it.. its not really comfy nor its sporty.. thats y not sure wats the poiint..
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post Oct 24 2012, 10:08 PM


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120k, do consider Altis 1.8, for comfy rider, altis is pretty good.
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post Oct 24 2012, 10:21 PM


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in term of technology ..Ford Focus better..can get auto parking system ...quite interesting

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post Oct 24 2012, 10:57 PM


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Preve CFE if have to be within 100k. Otherwise yes, Focus is very good. Always was, been in several previous generations and driven one or two of them. Close competitor to the Golf, at most slightly behind. And the Golf is the benchmark in the C segment. You can also consider the Citroen C4/DS4. Should be a bit more comfortable than other Contis.

But really, the Preve should be rather close to those proper C segment cars (as in Contis), at a much lower price. Worth considering.
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post Oct 24 2012, 11:03 PM


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Altis can be a top of the list. Comfy , spacious , many SC

New focus more on driver oriented
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hi guys, need advice as currently looking for c segment car (cheaper better), my priority is looking for safe n comfy car, such as with abs,ebd,esp,vcs etc, min 2 airbags, the more the better,

multi link instead tosion beam as prefer comfy ride, also BEST NVH n comfy soft ride... as not into racing mode etc... alr hv family n plan hv kids etc...

apprecite for oppinions... thx n cheers... 


Within 100k , based on your requirements. I would see that Preve suits all your needs.

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post Oct 24 2012, 11:26 PM


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Pervert car, but if you can wait, wait for another year, just so they can solve all the problems in the earlier batch. Though the car looks cheap, but you didn't put interior design/feel inside it, so its okay la.

If not, Forte 2.0, but I agree with you, Forte suspension is.....adoi.

Inspira is another choice, it's very absurdly comfortable, if you stay stock and don't change a single thing. Good cruiser too.

Those are under 100k.
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post Oct 24 2012, 11:44 PM


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it's very absurdly comfortable? meaning good or super good or... wat abt those NVH... which better.. heard preve nvh good as proton xtra focus on this segment..


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post Oct 24 2012, 11:52 PM


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Up a bit more..to 140k, Kia optima?
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post Oct 25 2012, 01:02 AM


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ford focus if upgrade to 120k...best spec for the price
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post Oct 25 2012, 07:14 AM


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120k definitely Ford Focus. Go and test drive it once. Good looking too in metal, in pictures not so. Inspira is also a good car for its price, just the interior is a bit of a let down. Suspension is good, comfortable yet stable. Focus is also like that.
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post Oct 25 2012, 07:32 AM


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nissan almera. only 70k+. sure comfort.
best nvh..... is dugong....
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post Oct 25 2012, 08:11 AM


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QUOTE(IluvProton @ Oct 25 2012, 07:32 AM)
nissan almera. only 70k+. sure comfort.
best nvh..... is dugong....
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Haha. I hope you are joking. Those are B segment cars. And not very good ones at that.
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post Oct 25 2012, 08:13 AM


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post Oct 25 2012, 08:38 AM


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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Oct 25 2012, 03:11 AM)
Haha.  I hope you are joking. Those are B segment cars. And not very good ones at that.
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Below 100k C segment how to get much selection
laugh.gif almera size is almost par with C seg blush.gif

if below 100k

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preve or forte. hmm.gif got others than that? inspira gua


oh wait, TS nvr mention new car only. guess 2nd hand car also consider. brows.gif

but Camry 2.4v 2004 only 55k value every single dollar

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post Oct 25 2012, 10:19 AM


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Multi-link!!!! Your choice left Civic, Inspira/Lancer, Preve, Ford Focus, VW Golf... not much choice. Even the D-segment Camry is still using only Dual-link rear suspension, not multi-link.
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post Oct 25 2012, 10:50 AM


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1. Segment C < RM120K
Proton Preve, Proton Inspira, NAZA Forte, Toyota Altis, Honda Civic, Mazda 3, Ford Focus, Peugeot 408

2. (1) + ABS, EBD, TC, ESP, VSC, etc with min 2 airbags
Proton Preve, Honda Civic, NAZA Forte, Ford Focus

3. (1) + (2) + Multilink suspension or better
Proton Preve, Honda Civic, Ford Focus
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post Oct 25 2012, 11:08 AM


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If budget 120K, the Nissan Sylphi could be a good choice. It's the most spacious, comfortable, silent, plus it's a 2ltr engine so got decent torque.
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post Oct 25 2012, 03:52 PM


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you only have preve, inspira, forte, elantra and 308 that will fit your budget, and since you wanted multi link instead of torsion beam, you are only left with inspira and preve, not sure about 308.

on a side note, funny how they keep recommending focus in lyn, but it's not translating into sales, the first and second gen focus are one of the worst selling C-segment cars in malaysia, maybe the third gen will sell more, but it will continue to be one of the worst selling.
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post Oct 26 2012, 01:42 AM


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Because Malaysians don't buy the best car, they buy the best resale value and reputation. I wouldn't hesitate to buy the Focus. Of course preferably second hand. biggrin.gif I'd a good way to estimate how good a car is is to look at the sales in Malaysia. The better the car sells, the worse it is.
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post Oct 26 2012, 02:23 AM


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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Oct 26 2012, 01:42 AM)
Because Malaysians don't buy the best car, they buy the best resale value and reputation. I wouldn't hesitate to buy the Focus. Of course preferably second hand. biggrin.gif I'd a good way to estimate how good a car is is to look at the sales in Malaysia. The better the car sells, the worse it is.
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Would totally get the focus if the interior space is larger, the current Titanium+ version is so cramped inside!
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post Oct 26 2012, 02:30 AM


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QUOTE(cody1508 @ Oct 25 2012, 03:52 PM)
you only have preve, inspira, forte, elantra and 308 that will fit your budget, and since you wanted multi link instead of torsion beam, you are only left with inspira and preve, not sure about 308.

on a side note, funny how they keep recommending focus in lyn, but it's not translating into sales, the first and second gen focus are one of the worst selling C-segment cars in malaysia, maybe the third gen will sell more, but it will continue to be one of the worst selling.
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how can u judge when it's only been less than 2 months on market man? even the new civics are still not that abundant on our roads...previous gen fiesta didn't even sell here...and previous gen focus did not sell well at all...after ford invested in substantial marketing...look at the numbers of fiestas on the road...i bet in 2 years u will see as many focuses as fiestas on the road...look forwards not backwards icon_rolleyes.gif i think the focus is the most well specced and best bang for buck, but interior space is a letdown, it's a driver's car though, unlike most other C-segments

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post Oct 26 2012, 09:23 AM


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QUOTE(cody1508 @ Oct 25 2012, 03:52 PM)
you only have preve, inspira, forte, elantra and 308 that will fit your budget, and since you wanted multi link instead of torsion beam, you are only left with inspira and preve, not sure about 308.

on a side note, funny how they keep recommending focus in lyn, but it's not translating into sales, the first and second gen focus are one of the worst selling C-segment cars in malaysia, maybe the third gen will sell more, but it will continue to be one of the worst selling.
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Many people do not BUY the FOCUS is because of its resale value.
The engine may have just enough juice for the car, but the handling is spot on.
The new design wise isnt an eye catcher, but the previous version definitely was.

This is typical Malaysian mindset "Buy the car with the highest resale value!".
No brainer for this. Toyota/Honda.

I would suggest TS to consider the Forte 2.0, if you want more drive? the 308 pug has a good engine.
Torquey and fun to drive, tho it is not as composed as a Ford Focus / Honda Civic.

If you plan to have a family for ride comfort, suggest:-
Nissan
Toyota
Forte (This may be a little on the hard side)

If you want more fun driving
Honda
Ford
Mazda
Peugeot

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Go for Kia Forte 2.0. Definitely bang for buck.
Or probably the Hyundai Elantra 1.8.

Not a Korean fanboy car but with all the accessories and with 5 year warranty, its a steal.

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post Oct 26 2012, 09:44 AM


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I heard maintenance of Ford is also a bit expensive. More over the workshops are not many like Japanese brands.
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post Oct 26 2012, 09:51 AM


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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Oct 26 2012, 09:44 AM)
More over the workshops are not many like Japanese brands.
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That may or may not be an issue for TS. If you live next to the SC, no matter how rare it is, you don't really care. I'm more or less neighbour with my Renault SC. There aren't many, but I don't care.
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post Oct 26 2012, 10:23 AM


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QUOTE(linkin182 @ Oct 26 2012, 04:23 AM)
Many people do not BUY the FOCUS is because of its resale value.
The engine may have just enough juice for the car, but the handling is spot on.
The new design wise isnt an eye catcher, but the previous version definitely was.

This is typical Malaysian mindset "Buy the car with the highest resale value!".
No brainer for this. Toyota/Honda.

I would suggest TS to consider the Forte 2.0, if you want more drive? the 308 pug has a good engine.
Torquey and fun to drive, tho it is not as composed as a Ford Focus / Honda Civic.

If you plan to have a family for ride comfort, suggest:-
Nissan
Toyota
Forte (This may be a little on the hard side)

If you want more fun driving
Honda
Ford
Mazda
Peugeot

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Go for Kia Forte 2.0. Definitely bang for buck.
Or probably the Hyundai Elantra 1.8.

Not a Korean fanboy car but with all the accessories and with 5 year warranty, its a steal.
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true story. some add on

- service center of ford not that much. so ppl will reluctant to buy since hardly find any service center outside of city. like proton/T&H and even kia have service centre at some rural area
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post Oct 26 2012, 12:28 PM


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Btw., those who say Koreans lousy... there's a video of the VW chairman at a car show (IAA), and he sat inside a Hyundai. He was quite angry, shouting at his chief engineer (I think) why the Koreans can offer such high quality, make something not rattle when VW and BMW can't do it, etc. The engineer then said they had a solution, but it was too expensive. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpPNVSQmR5c

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Oct 25 2012, 11:08 AM)
If budget 120K, the Nissan Sylphi could be a good choice. It's the most spacious, comfortable, silent, plus it's a 2ltr engine so got decent torque.
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Sylphy rear suspension is torsion beam. Cannot meet TS's requirement.

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Actually why can't it be torsion beam? My car has that, and it's fine. Sure it's not perfect, but it is quite comfortable, the car has no problem whatsoever with heavy loads, there is tons of space in the boot (including the space between the rear tyres... multilink are much more limited). A well designed torsion beam setup can be fine... at least good enough, and it does have advantages.
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Oct 26 2012, 12:58 PM)
Actually why can't it be torsion beam? My car has that, and it's fine. Sure it's not perfect, but it is quite comfortable, the car has no problem whatsoever with heavy loads, there is tons of space in the boot (including the space between the rear tyres... multilink are much more limited). A well designed torsion beam setup can be fine... at least good enough, and it does have advantages.
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sometimes they just like to find faults to complain. i still remember there are some of them that complain about rear drum brakes, i mean how fast can their cars go to actually require rear disc brakes as well.
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hi guys, actually compare the forte torsion beam before, n my current persona, i hv to say its a big diff, one is stiff n really not comfy (i tumpang, not driver), thn drive my persona vry good comfy...

thas y a bit picky on this for comfy level n nvh...
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If you can with stand the inferior FC of Preve in city driving (it isn't as refined as those Jap/Europe counterparts just yet), it will fit your requirement perfectly.

The budget you save from the purchase? I believe you have own way to manage it, we shall not give any suggestion on it. tongue.gif

Its either up your budget to get something bigger, better like K5 but going for something at 100k that hardly meet your requirement?
I might well buy the cheaper option that fit the bill (Preve, its a Proton, if this is Toyota Preve? hmm.gif ) or up the budget for K5. Assuming we not gonna change the car very often.

I do think Preve handling is pretty unrival below 100k marks, among C segment vehicles.

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sometimes im wondering about the b n c segment thingy, is it classified with their wiehgt, engine cc, size length width or ???

as im chking ford fiesta sedan however its with torsion beam, much smaller as b segment,

however the features are vry tempting, with wrty n free service, also 7 airbags...
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QUOTE(shamsulyahya @ Oct 26 2012, 02:27 PM)
sometimes im wondering about the b n c segment thingy, is it classified with their wiehgt, engine cc, size length width or ???

as im chking ford fiesta sedan however its with torsion beam, much smaller as b segment,

however the features are vry tempting, with wrty n free service, also 7 airbags...
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To me, its more about the size. Cabin space, boot storage, physical dimension, etc.

A segment - Viva etc
B segment - Saga/Myvi/Vios/City
C segment - Preve/Inspira/Civic/Altis
D segment - Camry/Accord/Sonata/K5

I think this is the common segment naming scheme being practiced.
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QUOTE(shamsulyahya @ Oct 26 2012, 02:02 PM)
hi guys, actually compare the forte torsion beam before, n my current persona, i hv to say its a big diff, one is stiff n really not comfy (i tumpang, not driver), thn drive my persona vry good comfy...

thas y a bit picky on this for comfy level n nvh...
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My Kangoo is on the comfortable side of things, with torsion beam. Touran is on the death metal sort of brutal side of things, and has a multi link suspension IIRC.

I'd say it's not only size etc., it's also the platform it is based on (though with VW that won't be valid for very long anymore, since almost all cars will be sitting on one platform). Some may consider the Skoda Octavia C segment, although in terms of size it can be considered D segment. Many different things come to play when putting a car into a category, and it might also not always work.
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QUOTE(shamsulyahya @ Oct 26 2012, 02:27 PM)
sometimes im wondering about the b n c segment thingy, is it classified with their wiehgt, engine cc, size length width or ???

as im chking ford fiesta sedan however its with torsion beam, much smaller as b segment,

however the features are vry tempting, with wrty n free service, also 7 airbags...
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they are classified by size...since u tempted by fiesta, why not just top up for focus sedan? more tempting features...i like korean cars....but somehow, they can only do 1 thing right, its either comfy/not sporty...or try to be sporty/not comfy....forte ride is a bit harsh, but its not nice to drive at all....upside is that japs and koreans have much larger interiors...the ford focus interior space is smaller...but it manages to be comfortable and sporty at the same time...also has more techy features....most powerful engine
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Oct 26 2012, 07:28 AM)
Btw., those who say Koreans lousy... there's a video of the VW chairman at a car show (IAA), and he sat inside a Hyundai. He was quite angry, shouting at his chief engineer (I think) why the Koreans can offer such high quality, make something not rattle when VW and BMW can't do it, etc. The engineer then said they had a solution, but it was too expensive. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpPNVSQmR5c
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rolleyes.gif i think maresia most of CKD also got rattle inclusive BMW / Merc rolleyes.gif must be environment and whether here

QUOTE(allenultra @ Oct 26 2012, 09:41 AM)
To me, its more about the size. Cabin space, boot storage, physical dimension, etc.

A segment - Viva etc
B segment - Saga/Myvi/Vios/City
C segment - Preve/Inspira/Civic/Altis
D segment - Camry/Accord/Sonata/K5

I think this is the common segment naming scheme being practiced.
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boss, mana conti car?
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QUOTE(IluvProton @ Oct 26 2012, 05:53 PM)
rolleyes.gif  i think maresia most of CKD also got rattle inclusive BMW / Merc rolleyes.gif  must be environment and whether here
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Our Prius C CBU from Japan also got rattle sound at the back seat. I'm not alone, you can check the Prius C thread, a few others have the same issue.
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QUOTE(IluvProton @ Oct 26 2012, 05:53 PM)
rolleyes.gif  i think maresia most of CKD also got rattle inclusive BMW / Merc rolleyes.gif  must be environment and whether here
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LOL, just example. Take it so seriously. Now you have it.

A segment - i10/Alto/Mirage (can't think of Europe A segment, perhaps they are not being sold here?)
B segment - Polo/PoloSedan/Fiesta/207
C segment - Jetta/Golf/Focus/308/408/F30/C-class/A4/Cruze
D segment - Passat/Mondeo/508/F10/E-class/A6
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guys, wat abt honda civic hybrid, safety features tempting.. wil try go look for test drive, jz chk focus, vry gd car with spec... albeit inner a bit smallish..

been told that current gen focus using n share volvo s40 platform n certain features as well..

spec wise much better then our god like toyota altis...

will chk for latest pug 408 as well.. c whether can get any goodies deal..

thx all...
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Civic rear seat can't be folded, boot also smaller than City. Engine noise is also quite noticable.
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Our Prius C CBU from Japan also got rattle sound at the back seat. I'm not alone, you can check the Prius C thread, a few others have the same issue.
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LOL, just example. Take it so seriously. Now you have it.

A segment - i10/Alto/Mirage (can't think of Europe A segment, perhaps they are not being sold here?)
B segment - Polo/PoloSedan/Fiesta/207
C segment - Jetta/Golf/Focus/308/408/F30/C-class/A4/Cruze
D segment - Passat/Mondeo/508/F10/E-class/A6
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F10 and E class is Mid-full sedan

no worries, I also just found out lately laugh.gif
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Oct 26 2012, 07:18 PM)
LOL, just example. Take it so seriously. Now you have it.

A segment - i10/Alto/Mirage (can't think of Europe A segment, perhaps they are not being sold here?)
B segment - Polo/PoloSedan/Fiesta/207
C segment - Jetta/Golf/Focus/308/408/F30/C-class/A4/Cruze
D segment - Passat/Mondeo/508/F10/E-class/A6
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European A segment, from the top of my head:
Toyota Aygo/Citroen C1/Peugeot 107 (same car, developed by PSA and Toyota).
VW Fox (previously), now VW up!/Seat Mii/Skoda Citigo.
Ford Ka (1st and 2nd generation, 2nd generation is based on Fiat 500).
Fiat Panda and the smaller, more expensive and stylish retro brother Fiat 500.
Lancia Ypsilon (probably related to the Fiats...).
Renault Twingo.
Daihatsu Cuore.
Kia Picanto.
Toyota iQ/Aston Martin Cygnet.
Perhaps BMW Mini... not sure. Probably too big.
And perhaps the smart fortwo... perhaps it is too small for A segment. lol. (Likewise Peel P50).

C class, F30, A4 are D segment. Premium D segment. A class, 1 series and A3 are premium C segment cars, Volvo C30 too. And the new V40 is also considered C segment, though it is a bit long for that...
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"Best C segment car (budget rm100k), SAFETY, COMFY, GD after SALEs servis"
rear multi-link somemore!
Used car only!
Wan New Car? No such new car in bolehland!

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QUOTE(fishmango @ Oct 26 2012, 10:34 PM)
"Best C segment car (budget rm100k), SAFETY, COMFY, GD after SALEs servis"
rear multi-link somemore!
Used car only!
Wan New Car?  No such new car in bolehland!
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Why not Preve CFE?

C segment: Yup.
100k: Yup.
Safety: It's safer than a Toyota Camry. Yes, it's not great, but it's pretty much as good as it gets without buying a conti.
Comfy: Said to be rather comfortable, good NVH.
After sales service: Well... guess it depends n your SC. But I have heard very, very bad things about Toyota (clear and obvious warranty cases that they wouldn't entertain etc.). Honda too. Other brands also bad things sometimes.
Multi-Link suspension: Yup.
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honda civic hybrid 2012?

Go green, luxury looks too <3
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honda civic hybrid 2012?

Go green, luxury looks too <3
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no kidding? luxurynotfound.jpg
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Ride & Handling, design, technology: Ford Focus
Comfort, resale value: Toyota Altis
Refinement/smoothness, space: Nissan Sylphy

but if your budget is around RM100k, then Altis 1.6, Inspira, Forte would be some of your options.

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Thx guys.. inspira fc ok or... as its mitsu mivec engine, preve lot problem base on forum here... nd time..

wat abt the nvh n comfy.. i knw proton cut cost here n there... takut its jz anothr bigger saga flx comfy wise n nvh.. no diff even mivec engine... engine roar n noisy etc...
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no kidding? luxurynotfound.jpg
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Preve fit the bill..period
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if u increased ur budget to 120k.. no doubt FORD FOCUS is the best car.. in term of safety and tech..
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so sad nobody mention HYUNDAI ELANTRA.
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after sales service plays a major role in car selection..u wouldn't want to leave ur car for repairs for a few days, or having to queue just for normal service rite?

even though there are horror stories of Honda n Toyota SC, but my personal experience with a particular Honda SC is very good..one example is I'm able to claim for wheel bearing replacement 2 months after my warranty period ended, on goodwill basis..maybe becoz they recognize me for always servicing my car there thumbup.gif

back to TS question, I guess for 120k, the sound choice for an average income person will be Inspira, Ford Focus, Civic or Altis..with 120k to spend, and considering the tax structure in bolehland, I think we shud not view these cars as inferior..they are reasonably well-made, and when hav more cash to spend, then only consider upgrade to conti biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(iamloco @ Oct 27 2012, 10:42 AM)
so sad nobody mention HYUNDAI ELANTRA.
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QUOTE(iamloco @ Oct 27 2012, 10:42 AM)
so sad nobody mention HYUNDAI ELANTRA.
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Dont u feel civic looks luxury? WOWWW <3
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Not sure about you, but Civic... nah. When I think of luxury, I think Skoda Superb, Merc, BMW, Audi, Citroen C5 and C6, Jaguar, big VWs, Seat Exeo, ...

@Pliskin: The Ford Focus is a conti.
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Hi guys, wat abt focus tdci... as heard its vry gd in fc.. one tank up to 1000km..


Added on October 27, 2012, 2:27 pmAlso maintenance wise.. is it vry much diff wit pwtrol n diesel... wry its hard to maintain n costly...


Added on October 27, 2012, 2:28 pmImagine nd spend $$$ aftr waranty over as its diesel engine..

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QUOTE(shamsulyahya @ Oct 27 2012, 02:25 PM)
Hi guys, wat abt focus tdci... as heard its vry gd in fc.. one tank up to 1000km..


Added on October 27, 2012, 2:27 pmAlso maintenance wise.. is it vry much diff wit pwtrol n diesel... wry its hard to maintain n costly...


Added on October 27, 2012, 2:28 pmImagine nd spend $$$ aftr waranty over as its diesel engine..
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there is a reason why trucks and buses use diesel, yes tdci is very fuel efficient, but if you get a tdci focus in malaysia it will be the previous generation focus....the new focus they have yet to launch diesel version
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Oct 27 2012, 02:12 PM)
Not sure about you, but Civic... nah. When I think of luxury, I think Skoda Superb, Merc, BMW, Audi, Citroen C5 and C6, Jaguar, big VWs, Seat Exeo, ...

@Pliskin: The Ford Focus is a conti.
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for me, i dont see BMW is luxury, but Merc yes XD hahahaha
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QUOTE(Boykidz93 @ Oct 27 2012, 09:50 AM)
for me, i dont see BMW is luxury, but Merc yes XD hahahaha
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just curious your defination of luxury?

for me, less plastic, leather, solid, comfort, gadgets that ease your driving manners such push start, keyless entry, voice dail, auto wiper, auto light.

so your luxury define?


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just curious your defination of luxury?

for me, less plastic, leather, solid, comfort, gadgets that ease your driving manners such push start, keyless entry, voice dail, auto wiper, auto light.

so your luxury define?
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classic look instead of sporty XD
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100k.. brand new... what else left..
all i can see is inspira/ forte/ perve

focus is good.. i test drive it few days back at PJ Ford center.. heard that there give 3 years free service hehehehe with 5 years warranty..it more toward sport car compare to altis

altis is just ok.. u just happy drive it as a family car and nothing else (i own it) smile.gif


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what you want are the ones that look pretty on paper.

anything beyond that is questionable blush.gif
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classic look instead of sporty XD
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if you said nissan car then i might agree
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Must be Proton preve.. superb ride n handling among its class.. Multi link suspension, Turbo engine,auto wiper, auto lamp, CVT, got ESC( the only model less than 100k got ESC) even camry (TOYOTA UMW) doesnt have it
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nissan sylphy FTW
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QUOTE(Ai609 @ Oct 28 2012, 09:31 AM)
Must be Proton preve.. superb ride n handling among its class.. Multi link suspension, Turbo engine,auto wiper, auto lamp, CVT, got ESC( the only model less than 100k got ESC) even camry (TOYOTA UMW) doesnt have it
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Some Fiestas got ESC, Prius C also got.
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QUOTE(Ai609 @ Oct 28 2012, 04:31 AM)
Must be Proton preve.. superb ride n handling among its class.. Multi link suspension, Turbo engine,auto wiper, auto lamp, CVT, got ESC( the only model less than 100k got ESC) even camry (TOYOTA UMW) doesnt have it
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must be it.

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nissan sylphy FTW
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Oct 28 2012, 07:26 AM)
Some Fiestas got ESC, Prius C also got.
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I believe the LX doesn't have, the Sport and higher versions have. On the other hand LX has 7 airbags, Sport only 2. Higher got 7 again. Or something like that. Really confusing nowadays... can't they just give ESP and 7 airbags to all the cars and differentiate through body kits, paint jobs, other equipment? Just give all the safety features to all cars.
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Oct 28 2012, 08:35 AM)
I believe the LX doesn't have, the Sport and higher versions have. On the other hand LX has 7 airbags, Sport only 2. Higher got 7 again. Or something like that. Really confusing nowadays... can't they just give ESP and 7 airbags to all the cars and differentiate through body kits, paint jobs, other equipment? Just give all the safety features to all cars.
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Always thought was all equiped with safety features
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Oct 28 2012, 01:35 PM)
I believe the LX doesn't have, the Sport and higher versions have. On the other hand LX has 7 airbags, Sport only 2. Higher got 7 again. Or something like that. Really confusing nowadays... can't they just give ESP and 7 airbags to all the cars and differentiate through body kits, paint jobs, other equipment? Just give all the safety features to all cars.
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1.4 Hatchback LX - 7 airbags, no ESC
1.6 Sedan LX - 7 airbags, with ESC
1.6 Hatchback S - 2 airbags, with ESC
1.6 Hatchback XTR & Beta - 7 airbags, with ESC

According to my SA, the reason why the new 1.4 LX has more airbags was because the original only had 1 airbag. Since now new cars are required to have 2 airbags minimum, they just threw in all 7 of them.

The S variant already has the minimum airbags, so no need to change anything.

Dunno true anot, though.
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Would make sense, sort of. But what about the Almera? Somehow I don't think the rule is actually enforced... sad.gif I can understand when they reason "old model, upgrading to 2 airbags a bit hard". But a NEW model? Just launched? Usually rules are stricter for new models in Europe, while older cars can get away with more. That approach sounds sensible to me...

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Oct 28 2012, 02:38 PM)
Would make sense, sort of. But what about the Almera? Somehow I don't think the rule is actually enforced... sad.gif I can understand when they reason "old model, upgrading to 2 airbags a bit hard". But a NEW model? Just launched? Usually rules are stricter for new models in Europe, while older cars can get away with more. That approach sounds sensible to me...
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I am as puzzled as you regarding the base spec Almera. Even the baseline Viva also have 2 airbags. How did Nissan get away with that?
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I am as puzzled as you regarding the base spec Almera. Even the baseline Viva also have 2 airbags. How did Nissan get away with that?
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under table money brows.gif brows.gif

*Just joking though, but by launching Almera with 1 airbag would be known by everyone. So yea, it's quite impossible for under table money too unless Nissan had some strong connection with the govt department?

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under table money  brows.gif  brows.gif

*Just joking though, but by launching Almera with 1 airbag would be known by everyone. So yea, it's quite impossible for under table money too unless Nissan had some strong connection with the govt department?
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maybe gomen OVERLOOK of almera brows.gif
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mazda 3? slightly above 100k
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mazda 3? slightly above 100k
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I just don't think ford focus a decent family car for me simply because interior is too cramp for me. If the driver is 6-ft, the leg-room at the back is very limited, the knee is touching the front seat (for 6-ft passenger).

The boot size is important if you consider to travel along with full-size stroller. I might consider 2nd hand d-segment car.
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QUOTE(shamsulyahya @ Oct 24 2012, 09:34 PM)
hi guys, need advice as currently looking for c segment car (cheaper better), my priority is looking for safe n comfy car, such as with abs,ebd,esp,vcs etc, min 2 airbags, the more the better,

multi link instead tosion beam as prefer comfy ride, also BEST NVH n comfy soft ride... as not into racing mode etc... alr hv family n plan hv kids etc...

apprecite for oppinions... thx n cheers...    notworthy.gif
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new or used? hmm.gif
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I just don't think ford focus a decent family car for me simply because interior is too cramp for me. If the driver is 6-ft, the leg-room at the back is very limited, the knee is touching the front seat (for 6-ft passenger).

The boot size is important if you consider to travel along with full-size stroller. I might consider 2nd hand d-segment car.
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if your budget below 100k.
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quite good looking also if u ask me.
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6 airbags, GPS, xenon headlights etc etc, much more value then the 2.0 version of civic or hybrid. Too bad no Skyactiv yet
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if ignore the segment, a used camry 09 or below is ok. Just my 2cent. Budget already is there.. y not.. haha
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QUOTE(shamsulyahya @ Oct 24 2012, 09:34 PM)
hi guys, need advice as currently looking for c segment car (cheaper better), my priority is looking for safe n comfy car, such as with abs,ebd,esp,vcs etc, min 2 airbags, the more the better,

multi link instead tosion beam as prefer comfy ride, also BEST NVH n comfy soft ride... as not into racing mode etc... alr hv family n plan hv kids etc...

apprecite for oppinions... thx n cheers...    notworthy.gif
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If the word cheaper is the keyword, u looking at Proton Preve. Basically fits all ur requirements here.
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cheap new get preve.
cheap used get merc/bmw.

end of story biggrin.gif
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hi guys,

i don't see a Hyundai Elantra much being promoted with TS's requirements.

isit a choice or it's not?


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hi guys,

i don't see a Hyundai Elantra much being promoted with TS's requirements.

isit a choice or it's not?
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unknown still new to market laugh.gif
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would like to hear from sifus here for any opinion smile.gif
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not too bad la Elantra . if you can stomach the 3000 waiting list
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post Oct 31 2012, 10:32 AM


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fuuuuu 3000 ppl buying

they can open CKD versyhun liao
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post Oct 31 2012, 10:38 AM


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post Oct 31 2012, 11:00 AM


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QUOTE(sakurazz @ Oct 31 2012, 09:59 AM)
hi guys,
i don't see a Hyundai Elantra much being promoted with TS's requirements.
isit a choice or it's not?
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beautiful on the outside.
interior and driving dynamics so so.

QUOTE(IluvProton @ Oct 31 2012, 10:01 AM)
unknown still new to market  laugh.gif
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correct, depreciate like rock.

QUOTE(sakurazz @ Oct 31 2012, 10:04 AM)
was actually damn enthu in looking detailed of Elantra, maybe 1.6 HS in meeting TS requirements ~
would like to hear from sifus here for any opinion smile.gif
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c segment with 1.6? please no.

QUOTE(jusjus88 @ Oct 31 2012, 10:05 AM)
not too bad la Elantra . if you can stomach the 3000 waiting list
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really 3000 people or they no stock?

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b segment.
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post Oct 31 2012, 11:07 AM


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QUOTE(zenix @ Oct 31 2012, 06:00 AM)
beautiful on the outside.
interior and driving dynamics so so.
correct, depreciate like rock.
c segment with 1.6? please no.
really 3000 people or they no stock?
b segment.
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well, depreciation is true for last time. now maybe abit lesser comparing lasting since more people buying it (my opinion)


insight also not bad but not comfort even compare with dugong if you ask me
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post Oct 31 2012, 11:44 AM


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QUOTE(IluvProton @ Oct 31 2012, 11:07 AM)
well, depreciation is true for last time. now maybe abit lesser comparing lasting since more people buying it (my opinion)
insight also not bad but not comfort even compare with dugong if you ask me
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thats why i said new get preve.
cheap and cheerful, just look beyond the badge its spec so well even > 100k cars have trouble.
if used get beemer/merc. laugh.gif
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post Oct 31 2012, 01:48 PM


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QUOTE(shamsulyahya @ Oct 24 2012, 10:03 PM)
thx guys, lets say increase budget ard 120k, any better idea, as sat before forte 1.6, the suspension keras sial.. cant take it.. its not really comfy nor its sporty.. thats y not sure wats the poiint..
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Audi A6 (A) 2.4 v6., manufacture year 2005-2007 , price around Rm12xk... i have 3-4 unit available to choose. U interested?
a very comfortable luxury car
Paddle shift steering wheel
Rear boot very very big.. can put in 4 golf bags , can put in 2 sexy gals sleep inside too .. best car of kidnapper.. 5555+ rclxm9.gif

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post Oct 31 2012, 02:33 PM


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QUOTE(Dorifuto @ Oct 31 2012, 08:48 AM)
Audi A6 (A) 2.4 v6.,  manufacture year 2005-2007 ,  price around Rm12xk... i have 3-4 unit available to choose. U interested?
a very comfortable luxury car
Paddle shift steering wheel
Rear boot very very big.. can put in 4 golf bags , can put in 2 sexy gals sleep inside too ..  best car of kidnapper.. 5555+ rclxm9.gif
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drool.gif

can buy only 2 sexy gals? lol

btw, audi seem a good deal only thing is v6 hmm.gif FC not that gooding
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post Oct 31 2012, 02:53 PM


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QUOTE(shamsulyahya @ Oct 24 2012, 10:03 PM)
thx guys, lets say increase budget ard 120k, any better idea, as sat before forte 1.6, the suspension keras sial.. cant take it.. its not really comfy nor its sporty.. thats y not sure wats the poiint..
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the point is you can drive a bigger car at a cheaper price to look good on the outside while suffer from the inside laugh.gif
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post Oct 31 2012, 03:21 PM


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QUOTE(shamsulyahya @ Oct 24 2012, 09:34 PM)
hi guys, need advice as currently looking for c segment car (cheaper better), my priority is looking for safe n comfy car, such as with abs,ebd,esp,vcs etc, min 2 airbags, the more the better,

multi link instead tosion beam as prefer comfy ride, also BEST NVH n comfy soft ride... as not into racing mode etc... alr hv family n plan hv kids etc...

apprecite for oppinions... thx n cheers...    notworthy.gif
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buy a Volvo
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post Oct 31 2012, 05:33 PM


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comfort : 7
performance : 9
safety : 8

Mazda3 HB/sedan
RM110k+ (Sec C)
highly recommended biggrin.gif

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