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University Multimedia University Thread V5, ....Inquire, Inspire and Innovate
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TSHuman Nature
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Oct 30 2012, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE(kailoonthedog @ Oct 30 2012, 02:35 PM) Well generally a receipt can be faked too , the guard can itself issue a receipt than later on the student will just forget about it without knowing the guard has taken the $$ can bring the receipt to verify. i am against this idea of collecting the summons to the security. what they should do is issue the receipt and pass the carbon copy to finance and another to STAD, etc. Added on October 30, 2012, 7:40 pmlol@ck, ask you to ask dean directly, you post at SRC FB for instead..so lengzhai This post has been edited by Human Nature: Oct 30 2012, 07:40 PM
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kailoonthedog
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Oct 30 2012, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Oct 30 2012, 03:01 PM) can bring the receipt to verify. i am against this idea of collecting the summons to the security. what they should do is issue the receipt and pass the carbon copy to finance and another to STAD, etc. Added on October 30, 2012, 7:40 pmlol@ck, ask you to ask dean directly, you post at SRC FB for instead..so lengzhai i agree too , but some student just like to bribe (Malaysia Culture) , and they bribe the guard just to pay less
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freakyleon93
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Oct 30 2012, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE(chaukeng @ Oct 29 2012, 04:42 PM) Go ptptn website and download the form. There`s steps to steps instructions in the first page.
thank you!
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chaukeng
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Oct 30 2012, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE(freakyleon93 @ Oct 30 2012, 09:42 PM) Have you completed the online application?
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king99
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Oct 30 2012, 10:26 PM
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Hey , How's the Diploma in IT in MMU Quality , planning to join that program. Cost will be not more then 20k right ?
Btw , what is in Mathematical Techniques II ? Geometrical stuffs ?
This post has been edited by king99: Oct 31 2012, 12:54 AM
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lyrilmaki
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Oct 31 2012, 01:35 AM
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QUOTE(king99 @ Oct 30 2012, 10:26 PM) Hey , How's the Diploma in IT in MMU Quality , planning to join that program. Cost will be not more then 20k right ? Btw , what is in Mathematical Techniques II ? Geometrical stuffs ? Diploma in IT is good.. Can learn lot programming skills. And the other just useless.. Math Tech 2 is something like additional mathematics.. 1&2 covered the SPM add maths. below 20k
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king99
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Oct 31 2012, 01:39 AM
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QUOTE(lyrilmaki @ Oct 31 2012, 01:35 AM) Diploma in IT is good.. Can learn lot programming skills. And the other just useless.. Math Tech 2 is something like additional mathematics.. 1&2 covered the SPM add maths. below 20k Oh , so the level of the maths is like add maths SPM only ? I got C+ for addmaths  ...Hope can cope if i revise my add maths before enrollment haha
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tubby myan
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Oct 31 2012, 01:56 AM
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Guys.... how to check whether the course is approved by MQA or not?
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lyrilmaki
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Oct 31 2012, 02:20 AM
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QUOTE(king99 @ Oct 31 2012, 01:39 AM) Oh , so the level of the maths is like add maths SPM only ? I got C+ for addmaths  ...Hope can cope if i revise my add maths before enrollment haha Dont worry la.. The coursework (assignment, quiz and midterm).. If you score nice.. you can get B+>.. I Fail my Addmath during SPM. But I score B+ in diploma without hardwork, but last minute study.. Hehe  But its better for you to score all subject B> as good as possible if you're going to degree. Then you can transfer a lot subject to degree and don't nid to take again
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nymerine
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Oct 31 2012, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE(king99 @ Oct 30 2012, 10:26 PM) Hey , How's the Diploma in IT in MMU Quality , planning to join that program. Cost will be not more then 20k right ? Btw , what is in Mathematical Techniques II ? Geometrical stuffs ? Functions ,Limit, Derivatives , Differentiation, Application of differentiation, Integration, Application of Integration, Differential equations aand vectors. There, full topics for math 2.
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TSHuman Nature
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Oct 31 2012, 10:47 AM
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punkLOL
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Oct 31 2012, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(lyrilmaki @ Oct 31 2012, 01:35 AM) Diploma in IT is good.. Can learn lot programming skills. And the other just useless.. Math Tech 2 is something like additional mathematics.. 1&2 covered the SPM add maths. below 20k Hey bro, u study IT? is there any subject related to create cybertracker? I mean in IT course structure.
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thpace
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Oct 31 2012, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(punkLOL @ Oct 31 2012, 11:18 AM) Hey bro, u study IT? is there any subject related to create cybertracker? I mean in IT course structure. if you wnat to leran how to make tracker server, it quite easy. just google i from engineering, i spent 1 month reading and eventually build modify it myself main purpose for fun and allow me to share thing in my home network. Now u ask me, forgot how to do already oo i still got my cgpa calculator for mmu, which i do during my free time in beta year using c programming This post has been edited by thpace: Oct 31 2012, 12:00 PM
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nymerine
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Oct 31 2012, 12:37 PM
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QUOTE(punkLOL @ Oct 31 2012, 11:18 AM) Hey bro, u study IT? is there any subject related to create cybertracker? I mean in IT course structure. They teach your really basic stuff, other than that you have to try yourself. "Enthusiasm"
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TSHuman Nature
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Oct 31 2012, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE(thpace @ Oct 31 2012, 11:58 AM) if you wnat to leran how to make tracker server, it quite easy. just google i from engineering, i spent 1 month reading and eventually build modify it myself main purpose for fun and allow me to share thing in my home network. Now u ask me, forgot how to do already oo i still got my cgpa calculator for mmu, which i do during my free time in beta year using c programming why you need CGPA calculator..mmu already calc for you mah...
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kailoonthedog
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Oct 31 2012, 01:12 PM
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Added on October 31, 2012, 1:36 pmMany people asking whether is it mathematics is a requirements for studying Computer ?? Well generally i says it depends on what you wanna do , if you really wanted to be flexible and able to learn anything about IT (from networking to programming to etc blah blah blah , people with enthuasiasm in technology tend to wanted to know more about computer rather than treating IT as a degree course) , Yes mathematics is needed . But if you're a person who just think studying IT is because you know it has better future prospect and it's not something you have interest in (generally many Malaysian assume they like to play game , do some wallpaper changing and minor on tweaking consider they have interest in IT is false thinking ) . Then you will tend to just learn thing that will help you get a job in future rather than really go into the world of technology , then i would say mathematics is not a necessary , for example you might think nowadays web technology is so in need and you just wanted to focus on learning to design and create website then it might not be the case that you know any advance mathematics . But if you really have interest in IT stuff then you wouldnt just wanted to solely get a job but you wanted to know more , you can see for e.g facebook . Most of their algorithms being created to utilize all the feature on facebook (for e.g there's a new implementation on facebook where they will evaluate who's post updates should be shown on your facebook wall more frequently by evaluating which person facebook profile you visited the most , like the person post the most , chat with the most and etc ) . Athough this is something behind the scene but it's something so important that will affect the user experience of facebook user . There's no worry if nowadays your math is no good but the only problem is you will not able to deduce better algorithm for the thing you wanted to create , but lucky nowadays there are many API and framework out there that provides algorithms that are readily to be implemented by programmer for their own website and ease programmer job . But seriously if you're really into IT things and you very very very very love it , you would wanna create new things yourself instead of realying on existing one to make yourself a better one .
Some people also say mathematics and algorithms are two different things , all programmer needs to know is how to deduce algorithms . To me , it's something very vague so I would say the statement "mathematics is not needed to create a good algorithms" is not right nor wrong and this is the same situation as "mathematics is 100% needed to create a good algorithms ". To really give you an analogy , just take basketball as an example . Treat mathematics as Gym and algorithms as Basketball Training , it's true that no matter how long a person spend in Gym training his body and didn't do any training in basketball how is he going to know how to play basketball ?? In other way if a person has basketball training and without Gym training , he might get difficulties because his body is not fit enough to handle all the skills . There's the reason why basketball player go to Gym and also undergo basketball training in order to train both of their body and also skill in basketball .
This is same as math and algorithms , math is a way for us to train our brain in logical thinking , with better logical thinking generally you can come out with an algorithms faster and better though there're maybe an exception where a person not good in math might create a good algorithms (the world is so complex so I can't 100% assure things will not happened even though I have never encountered it before) , but still mathematics is a stepping stone for you to adapt better in IT field but as I say , many API and framework has been created to give programmer an abstract view of a system so that programmer doesn't need to care much about the underlying process but still if you wanna really go further and become better , you seriously need to throw away the mindset of what is needed in IT and what is not needed . A person who really wanted to learn won't have this kind of mindset and learn whatever he feels he wanted to . For example some people might laugh at people studying biology when he's pursuing IT , but i salute this guy for being so eager to learn . Who says biology can't be implemented in IT ?? Can't I create a program that analyse cell or gene ?? A technological breakthrough is someone who think out of bound but not confine to a set of thinking , this is why many people in Malaysia cannot have breakthrough because they have wrong mindset .
Let me give you a real world example , Google founder Sergey Brin is a computer science major as well as Mathematics major , he managed to make use of his knowledge in mathematics to create a data mining system and implement it on an old pc which is the first generation of google search engine . So in the end , it's not the matter of whether IT people should or shouldn't study biology , shouldn't take food(TROLL) as it's not related to IT or what . It's how you apply what you've learn and learn not for the sake of graduating and getting a job .
This post has been edited by kailoonthedog: Oct 31 2012, 01:36 PM
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thpace
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Oct 31 2012, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Oct 31 2012, 12:55 PM) why you need CGPA calculator..mmu already calc for you mah... last time was slow, when result release the system just show status pass, total point and total credit hour. Have to ownself calculate before 1 hour later or so, the real cgpa come out. That time i design the program lo. Mana tau after finish writing, the next sem, cgpa show straight away i old fag ok.. almost 5 years in mmu already. U should know about this 4 years ago, the system is like tat
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TSHuman Nature
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Oct 31 2012, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE(thpace @ Oct 31 2012, 04:40 PM) last time was slow, when result release the system just show status pass, total point and total credit hour. Have to ownself calculate before 1 hour later or so, the real cgpa come out. That time i design the program lo. Mana tau after finish writing, the next sem, cgpa show straight away i old fag ok.. almost 5 years in mmu already. U should know about this 4 years ago, the system is like tat no wonder those oldies are more independant nowadays..no CGPA, create own program good post, kailoon!
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mars85
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Oct 31 2012, 08:47 PM
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Hi everyone i'm ex-mmulian malacca just wanna ask if i wanna get signature for the PTPTN, who is the "pegawai sah layak" for the signature for the MMU malacca??? Just wanna apply change frm 3% to 1% ptptn charge
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chaukeng
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Oct 31 2012, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Oct 30 2012, 03:01 PM) can bring the receipt to verify. i am against this idea of collecting the summons to the security. what they should do is issue the receipt and pass the carbon copy to finance and another to STAD, etc. Added on October 30, 2012, 7:40 pmlol@ck, ask you to ask dean directly, you post at SRC FB for instead..so lengzhai Now only saw your lengzhai post.hahaha. I want to see how they respond ma. But no one replies also. EDITED: got wor president got reply. It seems he is the only one trying very hard to do all the things. The committees are just there for the sake of it. Btw, dun edit your post, post new one. ppl might missed. : This post has been edited by chaukeng: Oct 31 2012, 10:42 PM
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