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 Primitive Fish V2, Fish that survived Milleniums

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amirolzaris
post Dec 6 2013, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(Farhadd @ Dec 6 2013, 02:34 PM)
cer try bagi link web diorang ....  smile.gif
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beli kt aku je 200 je..lai lai
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post Dec 6 2013, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(amirolzaris @ Dec 6 2013, 07:48 PM)
beli kt aku je 200 je..lai lai
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wei ... ko mmg cengginih .....> thumbup.gif bukak kedai la bang .... rumah x muat letak stok ... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 6 2013, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(Farhadd @ Dec 6 2013, 08:34 PM)
wei ... ko mmg cengginih .....>  thumbup.gif  bukak kedai la bang .... rumah x muat letak stok ...  icon_rolleyes.gif
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xnk aku,sewa kedai sume,leceh
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post Dec 7 2013, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(Farhadd @ Nov 26 2013, 02:17 AM)
hello everyone .. lama x singgah ... anyway ...wanna show you guys my 4ft x 2.5ft x 1.5ft tank .... i got 2 spoted gar, 2 alligator gar, 2 patin mekong, 2 rtc, 1 tiger shovelnose catfish, 2 oscar, 2 normal knife fish, 2 river crab, 5 pleco. later i'll post some vid.
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Wah I also have 2 spoted gar, 2 alligator gar, 2 patin mekong ,
Just tat i have additional 4 oscar , 6 Talapias, 1 Toman, 2 Puyu, 4 Barbs

I need your advice on feeding. My talapia, oscar and barbs are eating up the food too fast.. The Gars very slow response as compare to them.
How do you fill the gar's stomach? Mine is in a big pond around the size of ur future pond too. My gars around 4-6inch only. Think they are
not getting enough food.. Need help

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post Dec 7 2013, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(Piratefx @ Nov 8 2013, 07:48 PM)
Any sturgeon lovers in the house? Some pics of Titan, my blind Amur. Been with me about 10-11 months now, from 4 inches to a foot long thus far.

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4 inch Titan, on the left. Same tank minus the hideous background. The other sturgeon didn't make it. :-

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Wah kao, Sturgeon sia! Who knows where to get one of these, n around how much?

This I really feel like getting, but from what I know, they like dark and deep places.
What is the water depth required for this monster? temperature?



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post Dec 7 2013, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(Untitled2 @ Dec 7 2013, 12:56 AM)
Wah I also have 2 spoted gar, 2 alligator gar, 2 patin mekong ,
Just tat i have additional  4 oscar , 6 Talapias, 1 Toman, 2 Puyu, 4 Barbs

I need your advice on feeding. My talapia, oscar and barbs are eating up the food too fast.. The Gars very slow response as compare to them.
How do you fill the gar's stomach? Mine is in a big pond around the size of ur future pond too. My gars around 4-6inch only. Think they are
not getting enough food.. Need help
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actually i handfeed my gar and my rtc .... so i have no problem when i feed them .... may be u feed them with life feeder fish ... i feed my fishes with chopped talapia. gar very slow move ....

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post Dec 7 2013, 01:20 AM

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Lol i buang total Rm10 of tiny catfish, silver lokang fish, the carp feeder
The gar only manage to makan 1 leh! then all the other fishes finish the feast already.. too expensive to feed like that. Lol

Not too possible to handfeed for my situation, it has too many place to run n hide haha. Now i only simply throw food waste like, chicken breast shreds, fish skin leftover from making fishballs, tasteless pork meat from soup (Pardon me for non halal) .. they do sometimes manage to grab some of the food..
But the spotted gar always nowhere to be seen.. It's behaviour so different from alligator. Alligator likes to stay around the top of the water, near plants, but the spotted gar, likes to sink below the pond hiding in corners.. hard to feed the spotted gar. hope they didnt die.. hard to find them too.
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post Dec 7 2013, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(Untitled2 @ Dec 7 2013, 01:11 AM)
Wah kao, Sturgeon sia! Who knows where to get one of these, n around how much?

This I really feel like getting, but from what I know, they like dark and deep places.
What is the water depth required for this monster? temperature?
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Tricky fish to keep, temperatures must be low, oxygen high, must feed many times a day with animal protein, they can't really digest vegetable protein. If you got chiller then no problem. Kalau tarak chiller, buy a few and hope that one or two can take our temps, the rest will die in 2-3 months.

They have very bad eyesight and are very clumsy. Should keep them in their own tank, they won't be able to compete for food with other fishes. Must also think of space, they grow very fast, bigger than us at maximum. Amur max 10 feet, hybrids are bigger, they mix with huso huso (beluga sturgeon, biggest in the world) i think. You need a pond in the end.
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post Dec 7 2013, 10:06 PM

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my pond 2.5ft depth x 12 ftl length n 6 ft width. The chiller a bit of a problem.. but i think food will not be easy for them in my pond =.=
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post Dec 7 2013, 10:44 PM

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Are you using any temperature control for it? My pond only 3 ft depth. Not sure if they can tahan. Maybe I shld check my water temperature first. Lol

Last week i been to Irene, didnt see one, maybe i will try ask them.
Jalan Sungai Buloh is it that one that has a area just for Arowana? coz so many nursery there.

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Gonna reply to this on this thread for the benefit of any Sturgeon enthusiasts (Of which you are the first one i've encountered lol). I'm not using chiller, i bought total about 7-8, only 3 could take it. The rest bungkus. As for the Arowana shops, there are two dedicated aro breeders along jalan sungai buloh, Yek Fong and Oriental Aquatics, the shop i'm talking about is near oriental aquatics. Google persiaran sungai buloh, it connects to jalan sungai buloh, make a left at the T junction and its the 3rd or 4th shop on your left, got koi sign outside. Its a small shop, if you went to the shop that is very wide with many concrete koi ponds, you went to far, make U turn. Oh and don't pay more than $40 per sturgeon.

As for depth, i think 3 feet is ok, i'm eventually transferring mine to a 2ft deep 1000g pond. My advice - don't keep small sturgeons in ponds, they will have difficulty finding food, if you have koi or other fish then they will whack all the food before sturgeon can find it. Keep them in tanks until they get bigger then transfer.





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post Dec 8 2013, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(Piratefx @ Dec 7 2013, 10:44 PM)
Gonna reply to this on this thread for the benefit of any Sturgeon enthusiasts (Of which you are the first one i've encountered lol). I'm not using chiller, i bought total about 7-8, only 3 could take it. The rest bungkus. As for the Arowana shops, there are two dedicated aro breeders along jalan sungai buloh, Yek Fong and Oriental Aquatics, the shop i'm talking about is near oriental aquatics. Google persiaran sungai buloh, it connects to jalan sungai buloh, make a left at the T junction and its the 3rd or 4th shop on your left, got koi sign outside. Its a small shop, if you went to the shop that is very wide with many concrete koi ponds, you went to far, make U turn. Oh and don't pay more than $40 per sturgeon.

As for depth, i think 3 feet is ok, i'm eventually transferring mine to a 2ft deep 1000g pond. My advice - don't keep small sturgeons in ponds, they will have difficulty finding food, if you have koi or other fish then they will whack all the food before sturgeon can find it. Keep them in tanks until they get bigger then transfer.
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this is a primitive fish thread after all biggrin.gif can't imagine keeping those, no clue at all about them lol
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post Dec 8 2013, 05:41 AM

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mujur la aku bela kura-kura je,xsusah mane nak jage
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post Dec 8 2013, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(amirolzaris @ Dec 8 2013, 05:41 AM)
mujur la aku bela kura-kura je,xsusah mane nak jage
Yela bole terus mati sturgeons dgn ko.. Tp yg ni sesuai la dgn kao :

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post Dec 8 2013, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(antzz @ Dec 8 2013, 10:18 AM)
Yela bole terus mati sturgeons dgn ko.. Tp yg ni sesuai la dgn kao :

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ololo bucuk2 tido peluk bantal ikan
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post Dec 8 2013, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(antzz @ Dec 8 2013, 10:18 AM)
Yela bole terus mati sturgeons dgn ko.. Tp yg ni sesuai la dgn kao :

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Haha damn cute
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post Dec 8 2013, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(antzz @ Dec 8 2013, 10:18 AM)
Yela bole terus mati sturgeons dgn ko.. Tp yg ni sesuai la dgn kao :

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ini jual tak bang? cam cantik je, cam comel je. brows.gif
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post Dec 8 2013, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(awansakti @ Dec 8 2013, 11:17 AM)
ololo bucuk2 tido peluk bantal ikan
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QUOTE(Piratefx @ Dec 8 2013, 11:24 AM)
Haha damn cute
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QUOTE(irsyadfy @ Dec 8 2013, 11:30 AM)
ini jual tak bang? cam cantik je, cam comel je.  brows.gif
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Dapat kat mirol.. beranak ikan tu. HAHAHA
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post Dec 8 2013, 07:54 PM

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bela bandaraya lagi senang bela dari sturgeon ni
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post Dec 8 2013, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(antzz @ Dec 8 2013, 12:07 PM)
Dapat kat mirol.. beranak ikan tu. HAHAHA
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kalau dapat kat mirul ...beranak ... mmg jadi bisnes keturunan tuh .. haha ... doh.gif


semalam kat jalan pasar pudu aku tengok ad jual gak spesis tuh dalam 2.5' gak la .... rm380 ..kalo sepasang 550 .... sempat rembat clown knife fish sepasang ...rm30. adela dalam 15 inc ...yg semeter pun ade gak ... sape nak gi beli.


soalan hmm.gif ..sape ade bela toman .... korang rasa mamat nih boleh campur tak dgn predator fish yg lain ....aku ada la sepasang dalam 1' ...tapi dari kecik mmg dah asing dalam tank lain .... kalo boleh campur ok jgak ...
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QUOTE(Farhadd @ Dec 8 2013, 09:54 PM)
soalan  hmm.gif  ..sape ade bela toman .... korang rasa mamat nih boleh campur tak dgn predator fish yg lain ....aku ada la sepasang dalam 1' ...tapi dari kecik mmg dah asing dalam tank lain .... kalo boleh campur ok jgak ...
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Ish toman xboleh campur dgn ikan lain. Dia ganas. Kalau dua ekor pun nnt akan gaduh sama sendiri.

Aku dulu bela sekor, xtahan lepaskan kat tasik...

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