Hi guys, anyone seen any Ornate's or Paradise Threadfin's in the Klang Valley area?

Here are my primitive fish.

Sturgeons, probably Amurs or a hybrid of some sorts.








Young Arowanas, about 8-9 inches. 3 Chilli Reds, one Blue base.

They are fed frozen mysis shrimp and bloodworms 4 times a day, half a cube per serving. For the moment, i've put them in the corner to ensure they get enough food. Sturgeons are slow eaters and cannot compete with faster fish for food. So they'll remain at the corner until i move the others into my pond.

Very nice indoor setup Antzz. For something as good as this, its worth every penny.

I keep seeing Arare being brought up. Are they an LFS? Could someone direct me to them, thanks!

Common or not, its still damn nice. Are they docile? Can mix arowanas etc? Whats their behaviour like? Very curious about this fish.

A simple species to rear, as hardy as any other arowana. Smaller than silvers, they're pretty rare and generally do not get drop eye like silvers do. A great pick.

Same reason why any other fish is expensive. Rarity, demand. But between you and me, they're just fancy silver dollars right?

Any sturgeon lovers in the house? Some pics of Titan, my blind Amur. Been with me about 10-11 months now, from 4 inches to a foot long thus far.





4 inch Titan, on the left. Same tank minus the hideous background. The other sturgeon didn't make it. :-

Hey thanks

A killer UV unit will do the trick. If you're looking for natural methods, you need to find a way to out-compete phytoplankton. Algae turf scrubbers are supposed to be effective, but the algae growth trays must be sufficiently sized to accomodate your pond volume. Hooking your pond up to veggie filters also work. Water plants like lilies, duckweed (difficult to control) and a balanced ratio of plants to fish is also a good method. Even hair algae is effective at stripping the water of nutrients, as unsightly as they may be to some hobbyists.

The simplest is still the UV. Just pay extra to TNB every month and change bulb 1-2 times a year.

Tricky fish to keep, temperatures must be low, oxygen high, must feed many times a day with animal protein, they can't really digest vegetable protein. If you got chiller then no problem. Kalau tarak chiller, buy a few and hope that one or two can take our temps, the rest will die in 2-3 months.

They have very bad eyesight and are very clumsy. Should keep them in their own tank, they won't be able to compete for food with other fishes. Must also think of space, they grow very fast, bigger than us at maximum. Amur max 10 feet, hybrids are bigger, they mix with huso huso (beluga sturgeon, biggest in the world) i think. You need a pond in the end.

Gonna reply to this on this thread for the benefit of any Sturgeon enthusiasts (Of which you are the first one i've encountered lol). I'm not using chiller, i bought total about 7-8, only 3 could take it. The rest bungkus. As for the Arowana shops, there are two dedicated aro breeders along jalan sungai buloh, Yek Fong and Oriental Aquatics, the shop i'm talking about is near oriental aquatics. Google persiaran sungai buloh, it connects to jalan sungai buloh, make a left at the T junction and its the 3rd or 4th shop on your left, got koi sign outside. Its a small shop, if you went to the shop that is very wide with many concrete koi ponds, you went to far, make U turn. Oh and don't pay more than $40 per sturgeon.

As for depth, i think 3 feet is ok, i'm eventually transferring mine to a 2ft deep 1000g pond. My advice - don't keep small sturgeons in ponds, they will have difficulty finding food, if you have koi or other fish then they will whack all the food before sturgeon can find it. Keep them in tanks until they get bigger then transfer.

Haha damn cute