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 [WTA]Uni.Asia Savings, please advice :S

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post Nov 26 2012, 07:17 PM

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The word insurance means to insure, not investment. It is to protect the losses of the unfortunate few from the contribution of many...

Insurance is not free, the higher the protection value the higher the risk for the insurer. This means higher premium.
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post Dec 11 2012, 11:16 PM

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Pass the exam as youve paid for it but whether to start selling insurance or not is up to you.

Let it be known that this is a Sales job. If you do not enjoy meeting up with people or just want to earn quick buck, sorry but you may be in for a disappointment.

Since this is a commission based you do not have a basic salary. The obvious targets would be your close friends or relative and subsequently you need to move to strangers.

If you do not move to strangers thats the end of your business and people whom had bought from you would be extremely pissed as the cases would now be transferred to your upline.

This is a business of providing professional services to your clients, a job most of us are passionate about.

There is no off day and your business is open 24/7 as clients can get admitted anytime.

Please do not misunderstand that I am trying to demotivate you but I am merely showing you the truth. You decide whether you are up to it to join the insurance business.

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post Dec 21 2012, 09:39 AM

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^ if it is not even doing sales, how do you as the agent earn any commission?

This is why it is also important to join an agency that looks after your clients and your welfare, not only the agency manager's welfare.
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post Dec 21 2012, 03:08 PM

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Seriously if it was for insurance line and they only concentrate on selling investment plans better dont join. Insurance is more on protection, not investment.

Learn to calculate the IRR and ROI before you get people to simply invest
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post Dec 26 2012, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(undecidedboy @ Dec 25 2012, 08:13 PM)
well .. damn .. i paid RM 336 too , nw waiting d exam ...
ive contacted Uni asia  customer service, when i ask about the interest  unit guarantee cash plus plan , the offcer told me that the saving plan only offer 5% interest , which is not what the briefing have shown which is 40% , so i think they are misleading us ..
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It could be 40% if kept for 20 years. That is why when it comes to insurance it is more of protection...
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post Dec 28 2012, 12:16 PM

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^ wont fail if you study for it.
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post Jan 5 2013, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(FlyingFairy89 @ Jan 5 2013, 01:27 PM)
Well said.  thumbup.gif
Before i went to the briefing, i have already taken out all my money & ATM card from my purse and bring only RM10 with my IC. LOLz!

Then how are you going to settle with them if they are coming to get the money from you at your house tomorrow?
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Just tell them this.

Look I understand that youve spent time with me and i appreciate your effort but my uncle Roy from Prudential had invited me and I AM OBLIGATED to join him.

If that still fails ...

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post Jan 7 2013, 12:28 PM

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^ Can you generate a quote and email it to me? RM 300/mth for the savings.

That's the only way to look at the non-guaranteed returns and to calculate the ROI .... if any

Also, if the savings plan is giving more benefit to the client then the commission to the agent would be compromised. There is no secret in this.

Insurance companies are giving protection not high returns.
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post Jan 16 2013, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(cheryline22 @ Jan 16 2013, 01:18 PM)
she said her relative saved money in FD and heard her saving scheme has higher interest so put 6000 into her saving scheme
she also save 6000 her own money there..from there she earned 4000++
she's coming from a rich family
when we were working together she always bought me things cz she always knw i hv financial dificulty
once her fren intro her this job recently she called me see if am interested,but i hv to find clients myself
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Do you see the logic here? Somethings just doesnt add up. Your friend put in Rm12k and she gets Rm4k. With that much for agent commission, how much do you think would be the interest rate return would be?

Ask your friend whether she could withdraw the money now ...

It is people like your friend that puts shame to the insurance community. Selling a plan without knowing what insurance is all about and even sadder asking relative to put in their money by promising high returns. She will eventually lose relative one by one... sorry for the rant...

This post has been edited by roystevenung: Jan 16 2013, 01:54 PM
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post Jan 16 2013, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(cheryline22 @ Jan 16 2013, 01:51 PM)
i think even insurance company like prudential wont allow u to withdraw money rite now..
i personally dont trust the scheme,maybe the people lied to her because she cant lie to me(i think),if it is so she will be puttin herself into trouble with all the money under the saving scheme
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No you cant withdraw, but the point is that youll be getting more angry relatives and friends when the so call investment does not work out.

If you are comfortable with it then by all means go ahead.
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post Feb 13 2013, 05:58 AM

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^ I rest my case, good sharing.
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post Feb 26 2013, 08:52 AM

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^ insurance is no laughing matter. It is a lifetime commitment, more importantly, it helps families in the most difficult of times, especially when the sole breadwinner is no longer able to bring food on the table.

We are after all humans and do not live forever. I had said this many times, insurance is for protection, never for its investment values.
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post Mar 12 2013, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(stev609 @ Mar 12 2013, 07:10 PM)
Just to share my thoughts as happened across this forum post while searching some stuff on uncle google.
Haven't been to the 'event' but based on experience (am a MBA holder & have a strong interest in personal finance).


Pros
- Savings plan is valid with returns ~5%

Cons
- Returns are not as high as 40% etc (re: Roy's comments on internal rate of return)
Simplified e.g. 1st year you invest $1000, you get back RM400 = 40% return
If you continue investing same amount every year, in the 10th year you would have invested $10000 but your returns RM400 = 4% return
- Check as well minimum lock in period & penalties for early withdrawal (probably will only be profitable after min 20+ years)
- The group in question appears unethical with high pressure techniques, pressured collecting of $ & the overt focus on recruitment
- The 'job' focuses on exploiting your contacts, your goodwill & tricking others to sign up (additional reading: http://mlm-thetruth.com/tools1/consumergui...red-flags-pps/)

Conclusion
Avoid this
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That ~5% is before minus the insurance charges associated to the coverage.
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post May 15 2013, 07:10 AM

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QUOTE(uNme @ May 15 2013, 01:08 AM)
just to beware brother.............
share another experience almost the same ,now day u will see some booth in shopping mall with beauty girl selling magic thing.
they will show some trick to you, friendly talk to you then ask you to buy few item. if not buying. they will ask you to join as member .
just fill up ur name hp no, ic no etc .and will ask u to buy her a meal for future

few day later will call u out to collect member card and buy her a meal. normal talk bout interest, having lunch . i wonder is jus come out for lunch chit chat and membership card only, ask her whether direct selling or insurance but she ignore and laughing then passby. almost finish lunch , then main topic is take out plain paper and start uni asia saving plan...fd , bond interest and bla bla bla......
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post May 15 2013, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(uNme @ May 15 2013, 05:33 PM)
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ayam speechless
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post May 15 2013, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(neyoyo @ May 15 2013, 07:11 PM)
Oh yeah..hong Leong agent everyday call me! Very pek chek! I said dun wan they keep called me!
Then I asked my friend, actually this is insurance not saving as what the agent called me! I scolded the f***er but still very persistent. Then last week another agent called me. Everyday call me 2-3 times tell me he is from bank. Wth!! Mother f***er ccb disturbing!
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Tell them you got an unker Roy doing insurance and what they are selling is insurance, not pure savings. Ask them to call me lor if no belip tongue.gif
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post May 15 2013, 07:16 PM

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^ sabar2... not all insurance agents are like that okay?
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post May 15 2013, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(Simon-goh @ May 15 2013, 07:32 PM)
Really HLa is insurance??!!
My sister just bought one last month, the agent said can take out anytime, just like FD.
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Hong Leong ASSURANCE = insurance lar... see my earlier posts on insurance...
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post May 20 2013, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ May 20 2013, 08:57 PM)
+100

Only Hong Leon got this. My other banks NEVER approached me with their savings plans via cold calls. Can we report Hong Leong Group for revealing private info?
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hmm.gif he said he asked for the customer list but were told to close his close friends or relative.

Once this has run out, and without new source of contacts, most new agents will not make it and guess who earns the balance of commission? The agency manager earns without even do any prospecting... brows.gif
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QUOTE(roystevenung @ May 20 2013, 09:04 PM)
hmm.gif he said he asked for the customer list but were told to close his close friends or relative.

Once this has run out, and without new source of contacts, most new agents will not make it and guess who earns the balance of commission?  The agency manager earns without even do any prospecting...  brows.gif
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QUOTE(Roychin90 @ May 20 2013, 09:34 PM)
Huh so who get it at the last ? Btw i heard kind of companies also have their own way to do so...like alliance or other mlm company
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