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 Wizard Discussion v2, Come, all ye arcanists

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post Oct 31 2012, 11:24 AM

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Looks Davy123 and i, slow time user brows.gif

i will add you tonight Davy123.

olman what's your battletag. Jom we all lawan MP10 uber boss
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post Oct 31 2012, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(kanethesun @ Oct 31 2012, 11:24 AM)
but if unbuff too low
how to use Stormyyyy Armeerrr

I'll be killed by Lickerrr
The Penjilat in Keep
and storm armor
I find I easily killed by Kamikazeeee
1 shot even I use Diamond skin also mampui yawn.gif
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there's where storm armor comes in handy against the demonic maniac kamikaze fat ass son of a gun tahi kucing monster

as you run away from them, the lightning will periodically hit them. Slow time bubble also able to slow their movement speed. If you're lucky enough, frost them and kill them asap.

Not that i think AR is unimportant, is just that sometimes elite mobster affixes are too godly that the effectiveness of AR seems to be 'not helping'. If my Arcane Resistance is at 900, i still wouldnt want to stand still against multiple arcane lasers. That's why for me LOH and LS are more important, combined with iAS. Looking at how miskin i am, the money to be used is lean towards buffing up LoH and iAS rather than AR.
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post Oct 31 2012, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(amiranna @ Oct 31 2012, 11:32 AM)
demonic maniac kamikaze also pandai, usually they will skip me (barb) and go direct to u..  laugh.gif
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Yup. Somehow i think they are faster in patch 1.0.5 psychologically speaking. If i play with you, when i see those things i definitely lari jauh ke belakang laugh.gif
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post Oct 31 2012, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(Davy123 @ Oct 31 2012, 11:35 AM)
Bcos Olman, finally my prayers are answered ! Check the nat ring i found
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2411577/+960
Haha when farming higher mp, i use Shocknadoshards..At uber, no choice nid to use prismatic cos i cant 99% freeze..those ang mo kau said 99% freeze is still achievable whenu hav 3.01aps, 50cc.. mine only at 2.75aps, 45+cc..

Come lets all run high mp uber =)
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yup, will add you tonight. hopefully during weekend got chance to uber-ed uber boss.

yeah, at least 3 iAs and 50% crit do lock them.

QUOTE(olman @ Oct 31 2012, 11:59 AM)
mp10, i kenot mang, 58k dps takes forever
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sabar is separuh iman

oh waii

QUOTE(metalfreak @ Oct 31 2012, 12:01 PM)
so now..

either do higher MP or just kill quickly using MP1-3? Legendary item drop Randomness is too keng edi LOL
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yup mp 1-3 seems the viable choice and efficient.
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post Oct 31 2012, 01:32 PM

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Davy please be my banker

i'm very good in drawing cute little dragon
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post Oct 31 2012, 07:49 PM

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YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I use living lightning and i killed ghom and i got....

jeng jeng jeng jeng jeng

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I wanna make dedication to YUHHAUR, DAVY123, COWITHGUN, DOODLE, JESUS CHRIST, OLMAN, AMIRANNA dan sebagai bagainya. YOU all supported me. thank you!

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post Nov 1 2012, 09:19 AM

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i wonder though,

the tal rasha set item bonus (fire % damage, cold % damage and lightning % damage)

does that add up to one's current dps even when he/she doesnt have fire or cold or lightning damage?
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post Nov 1 2012, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Nov 1 2012, 09:16 AM)
unfortunately 2 of my looted tal no AR. The Zuni had the AR but lack of the Att Spd. I think I will opt for 3 piece Zuni (praying really hard notworthy.gif )
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Zuni set is good though. for 3 piece you have 130 intel extra and 55 AR. Very good for Archon Build if you ask me.

QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Nov 1 2012, 09:21 AM)
Any lightning based inferno build? Beside the archon & frozen build...
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im using living lightning instead of wicked wind, same success with wicked wind as my primary attack. Still able to frost while do lightning damage. It's like in Naruto, where i have kekkai genkai. Oh wai.

With me focusing on increasing CC and also iAS (note i focus more on CC cos living lightning AS is super duper fast, so im shifting my priority again).
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post Nov 1 2012, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Nov 1 2012, 09:46 AM)
bro, living lightning proc better than wicked wind? o.O

what's your build? thanks biggrin.gif
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in terms of AOE and arcane power cost, its so much efficient. Not to mention, LOH and life steal works tremendously well with Living Lightning. It's as good as wicked wind as well but with no arcane cost. Now imagine if i sacrifice one of my passive skill for Arcane Dynamo/Stun Lightning? Imagine the efficiency against elite packs.

Last night i tried living lightning as primary and blade magic with life steal. Im a vampiric snow man aite.

my aspd is about 2.46 and CC is only 35%. Most of you have way higher AS and CC than me, so definitely its much more effective. However, based on my observation if one wants to use living lightning, focus more on increasing CC. It's only right, yo
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post Nov 1 2012, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(xiaosin @ Nov 1 2012, 10:56 AM)
hmm im not sure whether living lightning stun is working i remember reading about the stun duration those below 1.5 one wont work?
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it wont work well with mini boss and big boss i think. It's alright though, since permafrost is much more damaging compare to stunning. If stun is not good enough, there's where arcane dynamo shines.


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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Nov 1 2012, 11:05 AM)
living lightning is which one edi ah? the one with a walking electric man ah?
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yup that's right

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post Nov 1 2012, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Nov 1 2012, 11:10 AM)
wah...okok I cuba try today

Yesterday did IM with MP7 with friends(4 coop). Got 1st organ from skele king and that b****.

2nd one ghom/rak no drop (daFUQ)

3rd one  siegebreaker/zulle ...didnt complete. keep hitting enrage timer.

SO..just do MP5 or someshit. Random is  gg dot com
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do try it mayn. No harm. Probably just a little adjustment in terms of priority. Like others, im from wicked wind build so based on my experience last night, there's no major changes in my game style. The only difficult part is assmodan (aside from some silly mistakes i did =.=) but that's because of my low LOH and CC%. So to those who have better same type of build may see better result than mine.

In terms of priority/ importance, based on my observation:

wicked wind = iAS > CC. In short, i see people tend to focus more on iAS.

living lightning = CC > iAS. Living lightning is fast. In fact its too fast, so i guess higher CC% work much more efficient compare to AS.

ceteris peribus, CD and LoH are suffice. Plus, we're solely refering to frosting/locking mobs.
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post Nov 1 2012, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Nov 1 2012, 11:44 AM)
noted bro. I'll test it out with MP0 1st.

to be honest, getting bored with all the legendaries for barb sigh.
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yup, i moved from mp 1 - 3. So far, results are above my expectation and in some cases better than wicked wind.

QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Nov 1 2012, 11:52 AM)
Well, you can always message me to tank with my barb (subject to availability) to help out ...just don't waste the IM. It shouldn't be a problem to defeat SB & ZK ubers in mp7.
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You're an awesome barb mayn. Can i haz an i.d.?
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post Nov 1 2012, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(xiaosin @ Nov 1 2012, 12:17 PM)
you can add me too if my friends are around we can do mp10
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aww yeah, definitely. What's the i.d., chap?

QUOTE(chitchat @ Nov 1 2012, 12:24 PM)
The problem with zuni is the pox pox ring is so darn expensive  cry.gif
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especially the one with iAS roll. really omg.
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post Nov 2 2012, 08:41 AM

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metalfreak, have you tried my original secret recipe in act 3?


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post Nov 2 2012, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(chitchat @ Nov 2 2012, 09:15 AM)
wat cake u 2 baking ? share share  brows.gif
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electric cake brows.gif

:ninja:

QUOTE(metalfreak @ Nov 2 2012, 10:07 AM)
TESTED

Living Lightning is AWESOME. I have unlimited AP for other stuff while spamming orang electric ROFL!

and because of that, I got lucky and kena 2 legendary drops from the SAME elite mob ...5-10mins before error 37 or was it 73 LOL
HENG AH!
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awww yeah.

I talked to my wicked wind sensei/taicho, i think he will try it as well later. ( he has CC at 58.5% and iAS at 3.01).

Yes, the costless AP its too good to be true. You only used it for EB which only cost.....20 AP out of 100++ AP. Then most if not all have APoC. So, its infinity aite.

If my mediocre character can do it, sky is the limit for those who has better stats and gears for CM wizard.

If one defense is high, try use Arcane dynamo. Your Explosion Blast (Chain reaction) adds another 75% brows.gif

I dont have to tell you how fast the Arcane Dynamo keeps refreshing. For me...its every second the moment i hit mobs.

Another good passive skill is lightning stun. Works well for me.

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post Nov 2 2012, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Nov 2 2012, 10:07 AM)
oh wait, act 3. nope .I farm act 1 saja. tonight will try act 3 punya route. but kena pergi check point at azmodan before I start doodle route
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No worries, i tried and tested using Doodle Route. Works like a charm especially when im a slow time user.

One of the changes i think its worth the change is to change the frost nova to the rune skills which 15% extra CC if 5 or more monster frosted.

Since doodle's route doesnt deal with mini bosses, that rune skill is worth to take note. I'm going to use it later and i have a good feeling i wont regret it.
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post Nov 2 2012, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Nov 2 2012, 11:04 AM)
yeah for passives I'm using paralysis(1.5% to stun?), evocation and CM

right click is teleport. key 4 is energy weapon for that life steal,

The rest are the same.

1,2,3,4 = DS, Frost Nova, EB, Energy Weapon
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yeah saw your build. Lol, dont bother using Armor at all. Kudos to you. Perhaps life steal blade is good for you or Venom blade where it does help cumulating crit as well.

Maybe i should use your style while instead of using magic blade, i use Slow Time. Aisehman
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post Nov 2 2012, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Nov 2 2012, 11:39 AM)
in coop, I dont use slow time. because it does more damage to others. LOL especially when elite mobs are electrify. kumpul all of their electric and when release, it does so much damage

right now, if I solo, I use teleport. really fast with MP1 tongue.gif but today, I shall try speed farming with ACT 3 route tongue.gif unless my cousin ajak me to do IM

acrane dynamo...sounds good. but I'll stick to current passives to lock enemy as much as possible while others dish out more dps. Aku support je tongue.gif
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Eh? Normally when dealing with elite mobs with electrify attribute, i'm able to survive much well with Slow Time as i'm able to lock them while those bolts are slowed to the max which in turn hurts me less.

I always use Slow time against Elite Mobs. Slowed them and also their AS slowed to the point that i always have the upperhand to hit them first and the rest is history.

Except Arcane and mortar sleep.gif

Slow fireball and spears boleh...but mortar which is also in projectile form, cannot slow. Blizzard sometimes really sojai.

You know the Act 3 porcupine? Slow time cannot slow its projectile. doh.gif
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post Nov 2 2012, 12:43 PM

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Archon is definitely one my faveret build of all time but deep in my heart, i still prefer Snowy Wizard because i like to see the monster's tears shedding because they were unable to move&attack while i mock them by saying 'say whatttt?!!! i can't hear you!!'
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post Nov 2 2012, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(milky @ Nov 2 2012, 02:04 PM)
guys.. for CM wiz.. how u guys settle reflect affix elite?
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???

CM wizard shouldn't be afraid of reflect due to the ability to spam diamond skin.

CM wizard should afraid mortar and molten. That one is more damaging.

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