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 Wizard Discussion v2, Come, all ye arcanists

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mavezai1984
post Apr 22 2014, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(peinsama @ Apr 22 2014, 03:41 PM)
bruh, how's your faiyah wizard? Awesome>?
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No upgrade gain from few days farming lol. Firebird Talon only more like a bonus to me. biggrin.gif

Focus on my WD thou as Kadala is polite enough to handed me a Mask Of Jeram. tongue.gif

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TenSou
post Apr 22 2014, 04:05 PM

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I'm still gambling for a +2 MM mirrorball and a cindercoat. My current mirrorball only has +1 MM. Been a week and still no luck because all I'm getting are leg mat drops and plans.....
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post Apr 22 2014, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(mavezai1984 @ Apr 22 2014, 03:52 PM)
No upgrade gain from few days farming lol. Firebird Talon only more like a bonus to me. biggrin.gif

Focus on my WD thou as Kadala is polite enough to handed me a Mask Of Jeram. tongue.gif
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Yeah i got mask of jeram from her also.. looking for thasker and t .. sigh..
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post Apr 22 2014, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(deathTh3Cannon @ Apr 22 2014, 04:29 PM)
Yeah i got mask of jeram from her also.. looking for thasker and t .. sigh..
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Yeah, Tasker and Witching Hour is mainly targeted. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 22 2014, 04:52 PM

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It's kinda sad that the only replacement for a legacy Witching Hour is a better Witching Hour. I'm still waiting for an upgrade though it's not high in my priority list.
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post Apr 23 2014, 09:21 AM

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I'd equipped my wizard with Captain Crimson's Trimmings (Silk Girdle and Waders) before a decent Irontoe Mudsputters was found that has been enchanted with "Increases Arcane Torrent damage by 15%". So, I've decided to put a legacy The Witching Hour on active duty.

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hvaly
post Apr 23 2014, 09:59 AM

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so difficult to find upgrade now ...

big difference when ROS just launched, every yellow drop also excited, thinking of how to enchant
retsmot
post Apr 23 2014, 01:35 PM

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damn i am addicted to wiz now. dh is taking a break due to no good leg drop.

arcane build ftw!
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post Apr 23 2014, 04:37 PM

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Just got this and now I'm itching to try a Hydra build. rclxms.gif

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post Apr 23 2014, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(retsmot @ Apr 23 2014, 01:35 PM)
damn i am addicted to wiz now. dh is taking a break due to no good leg drop.

arcane build ftw!
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what u use as ur main arcane spender?
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post Apr 23 2014, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(TenSou @ Apr 23 2014, 04:37 PM)
Just got this and now I'm itching to try a Hydra build.  rclxms.gif

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Nice damage and good looking wand. Now there's only lubang u need. brows.gif
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post Apr 23 2014, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(mavezai1984 @ Apr 23 2014, 06:26 PM)
Nice damage and good looking wand. Now there's only lubang u need. brows.gif
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Already opened a lubang and fu.....I mean put a gem in it. whistling.gif
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post Apr 24 2014, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(TenSou @ Apr 23 2014, 06:45 PM)
Already opened a lubang and fu.....I mean put a gem in it.  whistling.gif
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Mammoth Hydra!

Although need to train the placement of those two hydras.

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P.S. = Got my Frostburn from Kadala. HNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
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post Apr 24 2014, 09:50 AM

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sifu's,

can help me for my newbie wiz?

any recommended skill for higher Torment?
Davy123
post Apr 24 2014, 10:40 AM

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Im lucky to be blessed by the God of RNG to be able to play 15-20s cd vyr set archon and WoW arcane build. Just have some comments on these 2 builds :

1. Vyr archon with 15-20s cdr outshines the WoW build in terms of dps against >10mobs.

- My initial archon destruction deals 90m + lucky crit and 20m+ archon punch 0 stacks. It could easily go up to 30-60m per punch when i have 10-60 stacks. My unleash explosion hardly reach 30m, unless i slot in damage passives(not for high torments).
Some simple maths :
archons with 1.5 aps in 3s = 4.5 punches(790 x 4.5 = 3555% not considering the improved archon rune). At 50% cdr WoW unleash rune = 4 explosions ( 970 x 4 = 3880 ). Not sure if the WoW calculations are corect but it should be somewhere that number. That shows WoW build hits harder than archon only if you are fighting against few mobs. Above 10+ mobs, archon wins. What happens when you are out of archon? Positioning. Kite as much mobs to feed archon when its up. Or in party, u can actually deal some considerable dmg with torrent.

2. Vyr archon outshines WoW build in terms of survivability.

-Vyr archons also have the omnipresent bubble which debuffs all foes -60% mov spd & atk spd, -90% projectile spd). The teleport skill cd at roughly 2s which means u can literally tp anytime in/out of battle. You can make use of temporal flux passive to -80% mov spd the foes. You aslso get +20% armor/Ar/damage in archon mode. The WoW melee build must facetank chains/electrified which is the most dangerous affix for a melee build. If you are playing fire blades WoW build you risk even much deaths since arcane WoW uses barrier blades.

3. Party teamwork coorperations.

- WoW is more favourable. When i played archon, not much of team presence other than dps surport and bubble debuff. WoW build? Just wow, everyone says cm wiz is back alive. At 50% cdr, your cold snap cdr is 3.75s and u freeze for 3s + blackhole cdr 6s holds mobs for 2s. Thats 5s of disabling of elites before their immunity kicks in. You dont hit harder than archon + you die if you are an amateur in positioning but its a reminiscence of the late cm wiz.

I have yet to test the conflag + WoW + MMball build which has higher dps output than arcane WoW. That build is able to go range and has much more flexibility. But for now, archon > arcane wow unless you love the feeling of cm wiz. Can any conflag + WoW + MM share something about your build?
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post Apr 24 2014, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(deathTh3Cannon @ Apr 23 2014, 06:17 PM)
what u use as ur main arcane spender?
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arcane torrent lol. its the only atk skill i use.

others are archon and slow time.

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hvaly
post Apr 24 2014, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(Davy123 @ Apr 24 2014, 10:40 AM)
Im lucky to be blessed by the God of RNG to be able to play 15-20s cd vyr set archon and WoW arcane build. Just have some comments on these 2 builds :

1. Vyr archon with 15-20s cdr outshines the WoW build in terms of dps against >10mobs.

- My initial archon destruction deals 90m + lucky crit and 20m+ archon punch 0 stacks. It could easily go up to 30-60m per punch when i have 10-60 stacks. My unleash explosion hardly reach 30m, unless i slot in damage passives(not for high torments).
Some simple maths :
archons with 1.5 aps in 3s = 4.5 punches(790 x 4.5 = 3555% not considering the improved archon rune). At 50% cdr WoW unleash rune = 4 explosions ( 970 x 4 = 3880 ). Not sure if the WoW calculations are corect but it should be somewhere that number. That shows WoW build hits harder than archon only if you are fighting against few mobs. Above 10+ mobs, archon wins. What happens when you are out of archon? Positioning. Kite as much mobs to feed archon when its up. Or in party, u can actually deal some considerable dmg with torrent. 

2. Vyr archon outshines WoW build in terms of survivability.

-Vyr archons also have the omnipresent bubble which debuffs all foes -60% mov spd & atk spd, -90% projectile spd). The teleport skill cd at roughly 2s which means u can literally tp anytime in/out of battle. You can make use of temporal flux passive to -80% mov spd the foes. You aslso get +20% armor/Ar/damage in archon mode. The WoW melee build must facetank chains/electrified which is the most dangerous affix for a melee build. If you are playing fire blades WoW build you risk even much deaths since arcane WoW uses barrier blades.

3. Party teamwork coorperations.

- WoW is more favourable. When i played archon, not much of team presence other than dps surport and bubble debuff. WoW build? Just wow, everyone says cm wiz is back alive. At 50% cdr, your cold snap cdr is 3.75s and u freeze for 3s + blackhole cdr 6s holds mobs for 2s. Thats 5s of disabling of elites before their immunity kicks in. You dont hit harder than archon + you die if you are an amateur in positioning but its a reminiscence of the late cm wiz.

I have yet to test the conflag + WoW + MMball build which has higher dps output than arcane WoW. That build is able to go range and has much more flexibility. But for now, archon > arcane wow unless you love the feeling of cm wiz. Can any conflag + WoW + MM share something about your build?
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wow. .. congratz .. got your wow at last ..

wow build is fun but i dont think it is the highest dps and easy to die when facing fire chain elite .. so feel weak when in T5 or T6
i think vyr archon is better in late T5,T6 due to the natural +20% armor/Ar/damage
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post Apr 24 2014, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(hvaly @ Apr 24 2014, 02:51 PM)
wow. .. congratz .. got your wow at last ..

wow build is fun but i dont think it is the highest dps and easy to die when facing fire chain elite .. so feel weak when in T5 or T6
i think vyr archon is better in late T5,T6 due to the natural +20% armor/Ar/damage
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Thanks mate, we can try dual freezing n black holing soon. Yeah t5-t6 archon is easier to play than WoW and that is without the vyr set bug fixed yet. They should prolly buff wiz to stand stronger in melee. Every time i jump into chains i die. If i eb on electrified w/o event horizon i die. Unless i pay full concentration on my positioning, this build is too paper.

@faheem
The way i see it, you can go any signature spell + arcane torrent build with arcane dynamo as passive. You should be able to faceroll t1-t3
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post Apr 25 2014, 09:43 AM

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After indepth consideration, I've decided to work on both pdps (sheet or paper) and mdps (multiplier from elemental skill dmg and specific skill dmg such as arcane torrent) by making use the full set of Vyr's Amazing Arcane and 3pc Aughild's Authority (shoulder, head & wrist).

Therefore, I can enlist SoJ (elite) and the Hellfire (experience) rings for active duty hence RoRG can go straight into the stash.

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post Apr 25 2014, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(Davy123 @ Apr 24 2014, 03:27 PM)
@faheem
The way i see it, you can go any signature spell + arcane torrent build with arcane dynamo as passive. You should be able to faceroll t1-t3
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im using arcana orb + mirrowball.. now can crit highest i think 5m..

im still finding good amulet + armor for faceroll T3...


i think i should spend more time to play wiz brows.gif




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