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post Nov 6 2012, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Nov 5 2012, 06:43 PM)
so it is up to you with either MAX arcane (yes 60 is max) or the extra 0.5%CC
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eh sorry bro, found a 6% crit radiance for 1.5mi on AH ^^;
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post Nov 6 2012, 08:42 AM

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Aww yea 44% cc makes baby tornadoes easier XD
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post Nov 6 2012, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Nov 6 2012, 09:14 AM)
39%+5%? or 44%+5%? Anyway grats on your purchase.

Sold the 60Arcane one for 2.125mil nett whistling.gif
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39 +5 lol
if 44 + 5 my dps should be very near 100k liao haha

grats on your selling too, so i don't have to feel bad on "ffk'ing" XD


Added on November 6, 2012, 10:33 am
QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Nov 6 2012, 09:21 AM)
atk speed also produce baby tornadoes fast le. lol..  have 2.4 atk speed now.
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ill focus on getting crit to ~50% ish then bother on other stats. though its not like i am specifically ignoring other stats, just prioritizing crit

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post Nov 6 2012, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Nov 6 2012, 10:36 AM)
actually i think monk should play a 2 hander n fist only...judging from the char design in the first place...the monk background in our bnet profile also i holding a stick..
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skorn IS a 2hander wut. lolz (you're probably referring to daibo sticks)
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post Nov 6 2012, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Nov 6 2012, 11:20 AM)
oh no...with OWE my AR is only 500. hahaha...cant imagine without. tongue.gif
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mine got bumped to 720 something with the new inna radiance

and yeah i dropped 7ss replaced with blind so i can focus my dmg onto baby making and FoT dmg (i got WKL btw)
hell, 7ss got me into some trouble before, might as well have more control of how i wanna die tongue.gif (7ss finish, ended up in arcane/walls/frozen etc etc)

my FoT now is between 100-300k dmg, and 44% crit chance, many babies lol. just hold down left click brainless whacking
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post Nov 6 2012, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Nov 6 2012, 12:19 PM)
am i the only monk who's not using thunderclap?
i tried to benchmark a lot of monks and all are using the same skill

O_o
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FoT = fastest attacking spirit generator skill
helps a ton on LoH (despite the skill offset/co-efficiency), spawning baby cyclones from sweeping wind etc

one of the main reason is also due to sweeping wind being the best sustainable dps tool compare to the other skills, and it go hand in hand with FoT.
until blizz nerfs FoT AND sweeping wind (or buff everything else further, despite 7SS being quite decent as it is already), monks will forever be cookie cutting all day erry day sad.gif


Added on November 6, 2012, 1:52 pm
QUOTE(Slythape @ Nov 6 2012, 12:43 PM)
Was talking to my cm/ww friend over skype and he was busy spamming all his buttons while here I am, holding down left click
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my sis characters have 10-20k more dmg than i do. however i kill faster, and with less effort just standing still left clicking. they went too happy about it when they see me play LOL!

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post Nov 6 2012, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Nov 6 2012, 01:03 PM)
im very particular to crowd control in my game..
the reason im forever stucked with cyclone strike-implosion
so i can kill everything directly in front of me.

i tried to switch to FoT and i find myself teleporting too much especially if you kill fast enough, i find myself popping here and there =_="
and not to mention it has knockback effects
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crippling wave will offer the best for that criteria. (and tanking too)

however when it comes to damage, FoT bar none will have the upper hand. unless you're damn good at positioning with deadly reach and have high IAS and/or crit, and high total dmg to have the fore sight scaling.

even then, its a LOT of EFFORT for questionable/subjective increment/benefits. which is why i ultimately succumbed to the dps race and went cookie cutter build as with every other monk once my friends stopped playing (solo, no reason to tank now is there?) and especially when the game gotten much easier than what it was back in 1.0

the knockback is a very minor knockback and to be honest, most of the monsters (especially bigger/fatter ones, which are more dangerous mind you) dont even bulge from their spot, they just stagger, which means you can get away with lesser damage because the chance of them landing attacks on you are much lesser!

experiment it with a singular monster at normal levels with you being naked or something wink.gif


Added on November 6, 2012, 2:04 pm
QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Nov 6 2012, 01:24 PM)
yeah and especially when partying in higher MP, your team will appreciate your FoT in chasing goblins. haha...


Added on November 6, 2012, 1:27 pm

what are the skills you using now? i still uses 7SS for that few secs of death/freeze/molten escape. hehe...and gain some life out of it too.
My build: FoT, 7SS, Serenity, Blind 30% dmg, SW cyclone, MoC Overawe.
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actually that's worse if you're not over geared for the current mp level of goblin. remember you have to carry the weight of dps for your team members too if they cannot keep up with you smile.gif

personally:
i was full 7ss (even throwing bells at one time) after the major patch that buffed those skills. just yesterday after getting inna radiance which boosted more crit chance, i switch back to blind from 7ss and it worked much better in my favor since my main source of dmg is FoT/cyclone thanks to my WKL offhand lol


Added on November 6, 2012, 2:08 pm
QUOTE(Slythape @ Nov 6 2012, 01:56 PM)
Monk's pretty much an effortless class to play especially if you have decent gear, pretty funny when I see some classes have a "rotation", while we just faceroll through.
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yeap thats pretty much the monk today, compared to back in the hay days before everyone has insane dps and tanking is actually worth something (or like 1.0 ish inferno, melee = must tank LOL!)

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post Nov 6 2012, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(ahhann @ Nov 6 2012, 02:29 PM)
BTW all the 100k dps monk, any comment on LS%? How it actually work?
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while im no 100k dps monk, i think you're still warranted to read the full details on LoH/LS (more towards LS, search this thread for the co-efficiency chart for LoH which are skill based) on the first page
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post Nov 6 2012, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Nov 6 2012, 02:32 PM)
but the bad part is the moment u jam that button, all elites will lose aggro on you.
serenity doesnt lose your aggro, 7ss does.
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oh hey someone who understands the concept of tanking laugh.gif
pity my enchantress running for her life laugh.gif

on a more serious note, time to time there are moments where 7ss gets me into deeper OH SHIT sad.gif
or "YOU HAVE DIED"


Added on November 6, 2012, 2:37 pm
QUOTE(ahhann @ Nov 6 2012, 02:33 PM)
LOH i can see green number per hit on how many regain hp per hit.
But for LS% i dun see any green number indicate how many hp i regain.
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no number doesnt mean doesn't leech
just use the formula and calculate yourself

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post Nov 6 2012, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Nov 6 2012, 02:38 PM)
play WoW too much last time lol
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oh i played WoW too much for my own good too. that is in the past now though i still buy their collector's editions to collect. (speaking of which, i still havent open my MOP CE shipment box sweat.gif )

ps: im dps, tanks hate me, healers hate healing me too, lolz!

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ah yes, being a tanking monk back then, it was a b**** when mobs ignoring me and kept chasing my allies down sad.gif

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post Nov 6 2012, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Nov 6 2012, 02:41 PM)
Quaza's life recovery on average hit = 74344 x 3% x 20%(inferno coefficient) = 446

Looking at it the difference is not much but bear in mind that a 100k dps monk probably had faster attack speed, and crit more often, hence more life recover.
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then there are also other variables such as MoC + overawe, and i got WKL wink.gif
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post Nov 6 2012, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Nov 6 2012, 03:35 PM)
Ahaha just the rite time to pose this. For a 100k DPS toon, LS will be superior as 1. Cyclone leech life but No LoH. 2 Cyclone hit multipile targets hence..leech faster. Only time loH is superior is vs shielding.

Quaza..your WKL doing good ehh..I bought back my nice WKL which I sold earlier as the person offered me back since he's going for shenlongs with OS (mad bugger or shall I say $$$).Using it as an offhand...paired with a pure physical weapon and ..my OMG. 65k DPS can down stuff just as fast as my friend 80k monk. Got to save some money now for a nice FoA/Sever with socket smile.gif and trying to just go pure LoH route with 0 LS smile.gif.

Which main hand are u using now? Sever looks promising...for the + demon damage and + crit chance.
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but im not a 100k dps toon sweat.gif

and yes, i love the WKL a ton. streaks of lightning across the screen with body parts attached to it is just... amusing even till this very day. never get bored of it XD

and my main is an ordinary rare with a low 2.2 LS (and thats my entire life leeching/sustainability lol!)
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QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Nov 6 2012, 03:37 PM)
no offence but quite skeptical on how he handle battle situation...monk using FOT surely have to confront enemies head on...maybe he use kiting alot?
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while its only mp5, im surviving pretty OK wut since my crit dmg provides decent life back from 2.2% LS LOL


Added on November 6, 2012, 4:36 pmi dont get why people still uses ghom as a benchmark when:
1) not a main boss
2) nerfed beyond redemption
3) supposedly enrage timer removed? rofl


Added on November 6, 2012, 4:38 pm
QUOTE(cowithgun @ Nov 6 2012, 04:08 PM)
Can get great Inna Radiance with decent Vit and just Poison resist less than 1 mil biggrin.gif Inna's Temperance with just Poison resist also way cheaper... I am so tempted to buy them all!!!
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lol i got mine for 1.5m, go get it if its an upgrade then tongue.gif

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post Nov 6 2012, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Nov 6 2012, 04:41 PM)
MP10 enrage timer ada la boss... MP9 no.
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mp10 is none of my concern. ill worry about it when i reach there smile.gif
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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Nov 6 2012, 05:24 PM)
havent had the time to play these few days sad.gif
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same here anyways
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post Nov 7 2012, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Nov 7 2012, 12:23 PM)
Tadaima.... (I learn my japs from Shin-chan)

You didn't miss anything.... Farmer still farming... slacker is slacking  laugh.gif
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should be お帰りなさい Okaerinasai aka welcome home/back
唯今 tadaima would be "i'm home/back" (or "here i am")


Added on November 7, 2012, 6:48 pm
QUOTE(paranoid @ Nov 7 2012, 12:24 PM)
hahahaha this is weird, so does this mean
if i spam BoH then MoC, it's 10+4.8.
just trolling myself lol
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majority of buffs/debuffs are multiplicative

eg: boh 10% and 30% blind would be ur 10 dmg * 10% * 30% not 10 * 40%
which would be 14.3 instead of 14

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post Nov 7 2012, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(anechoic @ Nov 7 2012, 05:42 PM)
haha..thanks.  guess d3 miss me a bit. decided to drop me an inna's radiance when i make an act 2 run in vota..haha.

okok stats..enough to give me some hope to play. First green ever!!  laugh.gif
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post Nov 7 2012, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Nov 7 2012, 11:39 PM)
i know i shouldnt learn japs from the rascal shin-chan, he always mess it up.  doh.gif


Added on November 7, 2012, 11:43 pm

nowadays, very hard to sell stuff already... on the other hand, i m aiming for some items when the price drop until less than 10mil hehe
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i believe his japanese is rather accurate, lol
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post Nov 8 2012, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(clautee @ Nov 8 2012, 10:01 AM)
4k hp vs 60resist bt dps remains unchanged.

Choose hp then I gt 41k hp bt resist is 640
Choose resist then I gt 36k hp bt resist 700

Which 1 is better? Opinion pls

Edited: typo on 36k hp. Initial typed as 35k
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EHP calculator, period.


Added on November 8, 2012, 2:04 pm
QUOTE(clautee @ Nov 8 2012, 10:15 AM)
Btw, just share with u guys. During encounter with frozen elite, press ur mantra at the time the frozen bomb explodes, u will nt gt frozen. Personally I tested few times and u jt nid to master the timing.
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its called dodging (yes you can dodge frozen orbs)


Added on November 8, 2012, 2:05 pm
QUOTE(clautee @ Nov 8 2012, 10:48 AM)
Dodge only works on physical attk nt any elementary attk.
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it does, turn on defense messages if you havent already


Added on November 8, 2012, 2:06 pm
QUOTE(duabijitelur @ Nov 8 2012, 12:42 PM)
yea frozen can dodge bro
i tried many times liao
using moe hard target
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post Nov 8 2012, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Nov 8 2012, 03:46 PM)
Darn it now you all know my secret of why stacking dodge rate up to 6x% tongue.gif
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now? laugh.gif

ps: i almost never use MOE

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