refer my edited post. i don't 7ss these days. my 350k are from FoT alone. and yeah its almost at 400k already.
Yo Quaza,
Thanks for the post on the damage reduction. Yeah, I think its right what you said and thanks for putting it up at page 1.
Anyways, crits at 350k? My set up is similiar to yours and I crit at most at 300k, (I use a 1,126 DPS axe main hand). Hmmmm..guess the limiting factor is my 300 CD.
Anyways..how on earth can you handle relect minions with that kinda of crits...I mean with reflect packs its never an issue but once I bump into reflect minions..its usually..ohhh serentiy.......why u only 4 secs!!!
althought with low life, what about with about 5+ LS, and about 1.5k+ LOH, will ehp will be calculated on that factor? as it will keep me from dying
you dont want to be having low lifepool at all times and try to compensate it with LoH or LS. being melee, it's better to start off with good defense, survivability, in which all these are simply measured in EHP.
then, only comes LoH/LS. EHP first. if you die too fast. having godly LoH/LS also wont help.
the same as having 300k dps DH, but you die in 1hit. no point for that.
there are two distinct builds. you balance up ur defense then only slowly raise your dps. that is the right way. by focusing too much on offensive build, you will always end up stucked in low MP levels.
some prefer to focus only offense, and they are comfortable farming in low MP. if in that case, you dont have to worry about low EHP.
This post has been edited by paranoid: Dec 6 2012, 01:20 PM
you dont want to be having low lifepool at all times and try to compensate it with LoH or LS. being melee, it's better to start off with good defense, survivability, in which all these are simply measured in EHP.
then, only comes LoH/LS. EHP first. if you die too fast. having godly LoH/LS also wont help.
the same as having 300k dps DH, but you die in 1hit. no point for that. there are two distinct builds. you balance up ur defense then only slowly raise your dps. that is the right way. by focusing too much on offensive build, you will always end up stucked in low MP levels.
some prefer to focus only offense, and they are comfortable farming in low MP. if in that case, you dont have to worry about low EHP.
high offence with low life + no LS/LoH keep you dying at higher MP.. =p
althought with low life, what about with about 5+ LS, and about 1.5k+ LOH, will ehp will be calculated on that factor? as it will keep me from dying
Think it in this way..
The more life you have...the more effective your life sustain becomes.
eg..if you have 40k life pool..your life sustaiin will continue to replenish to 40k and after that life sustain becomes useless..as your life will never go above that.
hence if you have 30k life..once your life sustain replenishes to 30k, thats it..its useless, so in fact your LS and LoH tops out much faster compared with a 40k life pool.
Thanks for the post on the damage reduction. Yeah, I think its right what you said and thanks for putting it up at page 1.
Anyways, crits at 350k? My set up is similiar to yours and I crit at most at 300k, (I use a 1,126 DPS axe main hand). Hmmmm..guess the limiting factor is my 300 CD.
Anyways..how on earth can you handle relect minions with that kinda of crits...I mean with reflect packs its never an issue but once I bump into reflect minions..its usually..ohhh serentiy.......why u only 4 secs!!!
If I farm mp4, I will not use OwE + STI, hence will become 5k armor/400AR. See RD or any 2 of fire pool/chain/molton affix, I will quickly swap in my 5%LS+1.5kLoH weapon before engaging them. no problem whatsoever because I got serenity & 7SS as 2 oh shi~ button.
Added on December 6, 2012, 1:47 pm
QUOTE(gladfly @ Dec 6 2012, 01:42 PM)
Think it in this way..
The more life you have...the more effective your life sustain becomes.
eg..if you have 40k life pool..your life sustaiin will continue to replenish to 40k and after that life sustain becomes useless..as your life will never go above that.
hence if you have 30k life..once your life sustain replenishes to 30k, thats it..its useless, so in fact your LS and LoH tops out much faster compared with a 40k life pool.
Hmm... utilization of hp recovering. I still prefer high LS+LoH than seeing my health bar roller-coaster between 20%-100%
I agree at some cases that such requirement is really needed (i.e. benchmark/IM Ghom, RD+any fire affix)
This post has been edited by yuhhaur: Dec 6 2012, 01:48 PM
Thanks for the post on the damage reduction. Yeah, I think its right what you said and thanks for putting it up at page 1.
Anyways, crits at 350k? My set up is similiar to yours and I crit at most at 300k, (I use a 1,126 DPS axe main hand). Hmmmm..guess the limiting factor is my 300 CD.
Anyways..how on earth can you handle relect minions with that kinda of crits...I mean with reflect packs its never an issue but once I bump into reflect minions..its usually..ohhh serentiy.......why u only 4 secs!!!
np, considering how fast the thread flow, FAQs/useful info definitely have a place on the first page. so any future questions/dispute can just point to it and settle with that lol.
300CD and WKL i guess? not to mention i still have my lovely imouto enchantress to erosion. i tend to time my blind MOC snapshotting with erosion, if its a lesser sized elite and they can bunch up (scavengers, those porcupine like things in act 1, sometimes summoned by cultists) i can kill all of them in a go within 5-10 seconds lol.
now, as for reflect damage. i'll be dead honest: they rape me. in fact, that's the only affix that would really give me trouble. there are many a times i've gotten killed by my own SW (stupid fast affix and tailing me closely with my snapshotted SW just grinding my own health away) or even baby cyclones! (they can shock upwards to about 30-50k... spawn like 10-20 of them in the screen.... good luck running away without life stealing enough from FoT)
it was really "comical" at first, then it just gotten downright annoying. that said, considering i am getting better at killing them these days on mp5 i don't need as many serenity cycles as i used to. i just need to kite better, and time my SW windows in between, along with blind/MoC cycles.
reflect damage with minions packs eh? ah, hmm back to the old days:
Added on December 6, 2012, 2:19 pm
QUOTE(Klawo @ Dec 6 2012, 01:11 PM)
althought with low life, what about with about 5+ LS, and about 1.5k+ LOH, will ehp will be calculated on that factor? as it will keep me from dying
LS and LoH is not counted into EHP. effective hit points or health points, takes into the account of your damage mitigation in relation to your hp.
think about this: you can have a billion LoH and 9999% LS. but you get killed by a flying projectile dealing 50000 dmg while you only got 5000 hp before you can even do any damage to make use of your god like LS and LoH.
This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Dec 6 2012, 02:19 PM
Thanks for all the info ppl, sorry couldnt quote, using phone to reply lol.
However yeah my TR build is all offensive so that why low ehp, however even with my main build i have high ls and loh, and as usual low ehp coz nvr Really account for vit or so, use to think dps dps dps is all that matter. Oh btw isnt TEMPEST RUSH , suppose to be all offense so can kill instantly? Still find that mp0 its slow.
I guess been lucky with the passive near death experience, wonder if that account for any ehp?
Thanks for all the info ppl, sorry couldnt quote, using phone to reply lol.
However yeah my TR build is all offensive so that why low ehp, however even with my main build i have high ls and loh, and as usual low ehp coz nvr Really account for vit or so, use to think dps dps dps is all that matter. Oh btw isnt TEMPEST RUSH , suppose to be all offense so can kill instantly? Still find that mp0 its slow.
I guess been lucky with the passive near death experience, wonder if that account for any ehp?
near death experience = you need help if u still depend on that passive as a melee class
in the tempest rush skill build, this is for you to sprint, not really to kill.. it's a 'runaway' skill, not like 7ss. what's killing the mobs is your buffed sweeping wind + MoC.
Dec 6 2012, 12:54 PM
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