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pandah
post Oct 11 2012, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(randyhow @ Oct 11 2012, 12:17 AM)
they can always close shop,... change name,... and start a new 1,... u blow him no expand..
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may be they should come out with blacklisting the bod members, those who involved in scams, ponzi, pyramid, should not be allowed to open any new business until they settle all the shits before.
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post Oct 11 2012, 12:20 AM

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Amno youth is Genneva superhero

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post Oct 11 2012, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(pandah @ Oct 11 2012, 12:19 AM)
may be they should come out with blacklisting the bod members, those who involved in scams, ponzi, pyramid, should not be allowed to open any new business until they settle all the shits before.
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do u know scratch and win scam still roaming the street, even it is a super slowpoke scam ???
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post Oct 11 2012, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(randyhow @ Oct 11 2012, 12:22 AM)
do u know scratch and win scam still roaming the street, even it is a super slowpoke scam ???
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ya, my fren oso got kena, they should just raid the place over and put the founder in jail.
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post Oct 11 2012, 12:31 AM

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TS, I have my own doubts about these investment schemes, but I don't get how your post 'proves' anything? BNM just explaining why they raided. Still under investigation.
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post Oct 11 2012, 12:31 AM

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Genneve = vgmc alter ego
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post Oct 11 2012, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(digitalcode @ Oct 11 2012, 12:31 AM)
TS, I have my own doubts about these investment schemes, but I don't get how your post 'proves' anything? BNM just explaining why they raided. Still under investigation.
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Based on surveillance and examination conducted on these companies, it has been discovered that these companies are operating schemes that are believed to be not sustainable to provide the promised high monthly returns, nor would they be able to provide the buy back guarantee of gold. Such schemes are not sustainable because the returns promised are not funded through gold trading, but from the monies invested into such schemes. The investigations have also revealed that the amount of assets and monies held by these companies do not commensurate with the amount collected from their investors.


BNM update pretty much said they have found the company to be ponzi scheme
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post Oct 11 2012, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(digitalcode @ Oct 11 2012, 12:31 AM)
TS, I have my own doubts about these investment schemes, but I don't get how your post 'proves' anything? BNM just explaining why they raided. Still under investigation.
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duh,.. doh.gif

BNM can check the company asset and their operating account to verify their claim on trading gold or not,... and whether capable of buying back and paying interest to their customer,... how do u hide any bank or money transaction from BNM ??? they are center bank,... they got access to any bank account statement....
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post Oct 11 2012, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(robertngo @ Oct 11 2012, 12:10 AM)
they are not proven guilty in court, they are still consider innocent.

but BNM always have genneva under their warning list, people still want to believe in the same group of people and invest, what can they do?
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Not exactly. BNM have the right to prevent any organization (with the help of various authorities like polis, SSM, etc) from continuing its activities that BNM "thinks" violates any financial regulation.

And that organization have the right to appeal (which genneva did not) or saman BNM in the court to PROVE that the said action was wrong.


the reasoning for this is, if you leave deposit-taking unregulated, any pakcik kedai kopi can take people's money and do whatever he wants without proving to anybody.


What I really don't understand from this whole mess is, why wasn't there suspicion by the "investors" when they deal with a company named geNNeva, and not geneva (the swiss location)? Surely by looking at the name itself you have to have AT LEAST a slight doubt that it's trying to associate itself with switzerland? doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

well at least now we know that AT LEAST 50,000 malaysians fail to understand obvious retarded difference. Probably these are the same people who would click on fake urls like googggle.com instead of google.com doh.gif

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post Oct 11 2012, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(digitalcode @ Oct 11 2012, 12:31 AM)
TS, I have my own doubts about these investment schemes, but I don't get how your post 'proves' anything? BNM just explaining why they raided. Still under investigation.
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isn't that statement proven they found the evidence?the statement is even signed by AG...waiting to go to court only..


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post Oct 11 2012, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(randyhow @ Oct 11 2012, 12:37 AM)
duh,.. doh.gif

BNM can check the company asset and their operating account to verify their claim on trading gold or not,... and whether capable of buying back and paying interest to their customer,... how do u hide any bank or money transaction from BNM ??? they are center bank,... they got access to any bank account statement....
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owh. so, BNM already know Genneva is a ponzi, then the subsequent raid and investigation is to find more proof lah...

I only started reading a little bit about this news, but I was wondering, if people are asking BNM to faster finish their investigation, and then if the investigation finds nothing, then what next? still guilty right?
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post Oct 11 2012, 12:44 AM

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can anyone give me a simple graphic explanation how these genneva investment works.

something you can use to explain to a five year old ?
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post Oct 11 2012, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(C-Fu @ Oct 11 2012, 12:38 AM)
Not exactly. BNM have the right to prevent any organization (with the help of various authorities like polis, SSM, etc) from continuing its activities that BNM "thinks" violates any financial regulation.

And that organization have the right to appeal (which genneva did not) or saman BNM in the court to PROVE that the said action was wrong.
the reasoning for this is, if you leave deposit-taking unregulated, any pakcik kedai kopi can take people's money and do whatever he wants without proving to anybody.
What I really don't understand from this whole mess is, why wasn't there suspicion by the "investors" when they deal with a company named geNNeva, and not geneva (the swiss location)? Surely by looking at the name itself you have to have AT LEAST a slight doubt that it's trying to associate itself with switzerland? doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

well at least now we know that AT LEAST 50,000 malaysians fail to understand obvious retarded difference. Probably these are the same people who would click on fake urls like googggle.com instead of google.com doh.gif
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with every stupidity, fortune is made by the cunning ones. hoho.


now the bod members all just blame bnm, brainwash, ask investor put money to other scams, and continue to enjoy.
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post Oct 11 2012, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(C-Fu @ Oct 11 2012, 12:38 AM)
Not exactly. BNM have the right to prevent any organization (with the help of various authorities like polis, SSM, etc) from continuing its activities that BNM "thinks" violates any financial regulation.

And that organization have the right to appeal (which genneva did not) or saman BNM in the court to PROVE that the said action was wrong.
the reasoning for this is, if you leave deposit-taking unregulated, any pakcik kedai kopi can take people's money and do whatever he wants without proving to anybody.
What I really don't understand from this whole mess is, why wasn't there suspicion by the "investors" when they deal with a company named geNNeva, and not geneva (the swiss location)? Surely by looking at the name itself you have to have AT LEAST a slight doubt that it's trying to associate itself with switzerland? doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

well at least now we know that AT LEAST 50,000 malaysians fail to understand obvious retarded difference. Probably these are the same people who would click on fake urls like googggle.com instead of google.com doh.gif
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i remember bank give multiple warning about illegal deposit taking in gold investment company. but genneva always insist they are not investment company and dont take deposite
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post Oct 11 2012, 12:46 AM

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post Oct 11 2012, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Oct 11 2012, 12:44 AM)
can anyone give me a simple graphic explanation how these genneva investment works.

something you can use to explain to a five year old ?
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post Oct 11 2012, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Oct 11 2012, 12:44 AM)
can anyone give me a simple graphic explanation how these genneva investment works.

something you can use to explain to a five year old ?
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post Oct 11 2012, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(sHsIkuA @ Oct 11 2012, 12:12 AM)
but... but normally in malaysia you're guilty until proven innocent!
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thats happens alot in k..
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post Oct 11 2012, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(duckaton @ Oct 11 2012, 12:46 AM)
How to claim back my 10kg gold ah?
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brapa juta you invest bro?
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like that ok la...
got real gold in hand, tak rugi oso

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