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post Oct 10 2012, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(InF.anime @ Oct 10 2012, 11:21 PM)
This is not true, we will protect our investors interest
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with what?
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post Oct 11 2012, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(empyreal @ Oct 10 2012, 11:54 PM)
they dont run they get charged in court for a whole host of crimes. theyre probably already out of the country already
im sure their shariah compliance is as legit as their business model
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actually most Ponzi scheme boss in Malaysia walk free,.... steven corner still got his own shop after Island Cafe scam...
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post Oct 11 2012, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(w3er @ Oct 11 2012, 12:02 AM)
U know how long already this genneva has been operating?
And how many complains have been lodged against them???
The gov, police and BNM, not only went silent mode, but did nothing against them for so long

And genneva was growing bigger and bigger each day
No thanks to mamaktir and rosmah help
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hey,... even the customer protest this raid.... imagine how many complain actually got ???....don't blame the regulator, blame the gullible investor...
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post Oct 11 2012, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(sHsIkuA @ Oct 11 2012, 12:04 AM)
maybe I am new to this but correct me if I am wrong, the first case of Genneva (under the name of GSB, this time its GMSB) is still being on trial since 2009... they can still comes up with the current Genneva even when the first one is still under investigation

Cool isn't it, when you are in the suspected list but still can open a new company and con people with it.
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malaysia is a scammer's heaven,.... how many scratch and win scam's boss go to jail ??
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post Oct 11 2012, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(sHsIkuA @ Oct 11 2012, 12:12 AM)
but... but normally in malaysia you're guilty until proven innocent!
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thats new law,... 114a is different...
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post Oct 11 2012, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(pandah @ Oct 11 2012, 12:13 AM)
if they conclude that it is a business based on ponzi, can't they ban the business and gantung their license for operating?
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they can always close shop,... change name,... and start a new 1,... u blow him no expand..
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post Oct 11 2012, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(pandah @ Oct 11 2012, 12:19 AM)
may be they should come out with blacklisting the bod members, those who involved in scams, ponzi, pyramid, should not be allowed to open any new business until they settle all the shits before.
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do u know scratch and win scam still roaming the street, even it is a super slowpoke scam ???
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post Oct 11 2012, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(digitalcode @ Oct 11 2012, 12:31 AM)
TS, I have my own doubts about these investment schemes, but I don't get how your post 'proves' anything? BNM just explaining why they raided. Still under investigation.
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duh,.. doh.gif

BNM can check the company asset and their operating account to verify their claim on trading gold or not,... and whether capable of buying back and paying interest to their customer,... how do u hide any bank or money transaction from BNM ??? they are center bank,... they got access to any bank account statement....
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post Oct 11 2012, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(digitalcode @ Oct 11 2012, 12:44 AM)
owh. so, BNM already know Genneva is a ponzi, then the subsequent raid and investigation is to find more proof lah...

I only started reading a little bit about this news, but I was wondering, if people are asking BNM to faster finish their investigation, and then if the investigation finds nothing, then what next? still guilty right?
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no.... they finish the investigation liao.... the next step is charging Genneva in court with all the evident they gathered...
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post Oct 11 2012, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(duckaton @ Oct 11 2012, 12:55 AM)
nobody really cares, really.
gold and money belongs to genneva and not the people.

those people/investors only lost the promised future interest payment
they still have their gold bought at a slight premium.
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not every1 gets the gold.... only some....

even those that keeping the gold, can't be sure it's solid gold or not...
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post Oct 11 2012, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(duckaton @ Oct 11 2012, 01:05 AM)
So you telling me those people pay without having the gold?
they have only themselves to blame.

you go pasar, buy vege 1 kati,
they say come collect tomorrow,
you ok?
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when u buy new car,.. u can drive it away after paying ???
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post Oct 11 2012, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(duckaton @ Oct 11 2012, 01:12 AM)
actually I can, what's your point?

this genneva case is similar to iphone 5 con case.
you pay first, collect later.
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u can drive new car back without registration ???
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post Oct 11 2012, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(duckaton @ Oct 11 2012, 01:21 AM)
I ask again, what's your point?
you are asking weird metaphorical questions without any statement.

when buying a new car,
one does not even have to pay full amount before driving away the car.

one actually drives it away before the finance/bank pay the car dealer.
if buy cash, you only pay full amount when the car is ready to be driven away
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u never buy car b4 i????...... even if u buy cash, u have to pay b4 registration,.... what if after registration, u dun want to pay???....

my point:

not every trade is COD .... simple as that...

This post has been edited by randyhow: Oct 11 2012, 01:27 AM
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post Oct 11 2012, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(duckaton @ Oct 11 2012, 01:29 AM)
Your posts to me are all consist of questions,
not even one is a proper statement.

you stupid or trolling. rolleyes.gif
buy car and buy gold same ah? rclxub.gif
"coolpeople" already stated the contract law involved.

kanasai,
dunno why i entertain you so long,
i oso stupid. doh.gif

/end entertain mode
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u more stupid,...

go check back ur post...

buy gold and buy vege in pasar,... same ar ???

buy gold and buy iphone .... same ar ??
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post Oct 11 2012, 01:40 AM

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QUOTE(duckaton @ Oct 11 2012, 01:36 AM)
not same but similar metaphoricaly.

there is no lengthy written contract processes and third party involved.
car (jpj/finance) property (land office/finance)

brain? rolleyes.gif
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brain, u don't have any...

implying gold=vege
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post Oct 11 2012, 01:45 AM

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QUOTE(duckaton @ Oct 11 2012, 01:41 AM)
now you are getting personal.
so typical, you go sleep and see doctor tomorrow k. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 11 2012, 01:49 AM

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QUOTE(ray123 @ Oct 11 2012, 01:47 AM)
I already said I was right why you people still arguing.
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nice crystal ball u got there,.... what number for next 4D prize ??
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post Oct 11 2012, 02:01 AM

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QUOTE(ray123 @ Oct 11 2012, 01:57 AM)
The signs are given, whether one sees them is another matter.
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i see.... 5....3.....5.....4.....

OMG !! it's like magic...
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post Oct 11 2012, 02:40 AM

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QUOTE(digitalcode @ Oct 11 2012, 02:22 AM)
Imagine that I sell you 8 keping SGD$1 notes for RM25 (SGD$10). I promise to give you SGD$0.20 every month until you want your money back in full.

So in actual fact, I only borrowed SGD$2 from you and willing to pay you SGD$0.20 every month (that's a 10% monthly return, or 120% annualized).

The currency fluctuations will give you a similar idea to the fluctuations in the price of gold. Even if the price of gold double each year, it's still a rugi business... (sorry, 2.22am, maths may be wrong)
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bro... it just imaginary gold,... some investor got the gold is just for show,... if 60.000 investor go claim for their gold, even Genneva really got money to buy it (which they don),...the market can't supply it, .... go figure...

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