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 Migrate to oversea, Asking those who migrated (opinion)

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post Oct 24 2012, 12:04 AM

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so many discouraging comments here

my advice to TS is, just do it, the word 'migrate' might not be the right word for now, just go there and try your new life there

but first important thing is you need $, with a lot of $, your life will be a lot easier there, so be strong, don't be afraid to fall down.

As long as you are happy with your new life there, this is what define life.
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post Oct 24 2012, 03:55 AM

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Really??? My cousin graduated from TRAC in Accounting(diploma). After working some 10 yrs in KL, he uprooted his family and migrated to OZ a few years ago. He is now working as an accountant. How??? Went back to school and took some courses, wrote the exams and start all over ...from the bottom. No difference from a relative who obtained his accounting degree from UK. Came back and worked in KL for several years and than uprooted his family and moved to OZ( in the 90's) Like my cousin, he too had to go back to school, took some courses and wrote the exams and started all over from the bottom


QUOTE(klein @ Oct 23 2012, 09:14 AM)
One thing for sure, your TARC degree won't help much yawn.gif

Unless you migrate when you are a highly sought after professional/ skilled worker (nurse/ engineer etc)
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Added on October 24, 2012, 4:30 am
Do you know immigration rules keep changing??? Every few years, gov't keep raising the bar. if you think it is tough trying to emigrate now, just wait . It will be tougher in the coming years. If one has the chance, grab it and stop procrastinating. All i have to do is looked at my relatives. Canada opened the immigration door back in the mid 80s.It was easy to emigrate back then.Of all the relatives that migrated to Canada, 2 had primary level 1 had LCE, 3 had MCE and 2 had uni level education. A few procastinate.... you know.too cold, got biz to run, this and that. By the time they were raedy to leave, Ottawa raised the bar because the rest of the world discoverd Canada How my lesser educated relatives made it to Canada?? Prasys hit it right on the nail

QUOTE(pisces88 @ Oct 18 2012, 08:32 PM)
Pergi je. Go work 1st, no need immigrate. Then if u really can fit in then apply pr lo
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post Oct 24 2012, 11:21 AM

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If you go other countries, like Europe or other western country this will happen... I miss the food over Malaysia especially rice and the warm weather.... Plus u only 22 years old and still studying in TARC, come on I also kena b4 the problem that you are facing when I was in college... Ppl dislike bla bla bla, ignore them tats all.... Dun giv a shit about them... Try to work in M'sia then slowly build up ur financial and life... Then only u do wat u wanna do.... Btw I am from TARC also... XD
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post Nov 12 2012, 08:09 AM

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post Nov 12 2012, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(segamatboy @ Oct 10 2012, 04:33 PM)
Not easy to let go your home country??? What rubbish. It 's all in your mind
Me?? I wasn't born with a silverspoon in my mouth. My grades were just 'average'. Finished F5 and can't get into F6. Relatives in Canada sponsored me over. When that day came, just packed my bags  and  headed to the airport and that was it. The unspoken rule was I aint coming back until I got my degree. In Canada, I did my G12. Again, average grades. Applied to uni and had to wait till early Aug to I get my acceptance letter Cream of the crops get their choice while people like me were fillers. Took me 5 years to complete my degree. Why?? cvos i bombed my Calculus on my first attempt. Calculus was a prerequiste course for some of the courses. So it was 6 years beore I go home. When I got home I cannot tahan the heat and humidity. House has no air con.Only fans. Still remembers taking 6-7 baths a day just to cool down
Was very happy when that day came when I headed to the airport. Back to Canada
Currently working with company whose clients are oil/gas companies, pulp and paper companies, mining companies and petrochemical companies.  Coming back to Malaysia to work?? Forget it. I am just a BSc holder with average grade. I am sure Talent Corp consider me as a non talent. Despite the gov't taking some 25% of my paycheque, I am still better off financially. Car is cheap, gas is cheap. food is cheap, eating out is expensive but junk food is cheap ,electronic stuff are cheap etc. Eg Nissan Rogue AWD 2013 model is around $27k while gas is around $1.15/L, 10 pcs KFC plus medium fries is less than $21. Working and pay taxes,health care is taken care off. No need to buy expensive private insurance etc etc
My advise. if you thinking of migration, don't be sentimental. Cross the bridge and burn it
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I wonder, is it easy to get to Canada these days?
I only have like less than 1 year working experience. sad.gif
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post Nov 13 2012, 08:10 AM

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depends on u actually, no matter where u are if u fail to live, u will still fail. i've met many ppl like ts, usually they're the one that are introvert. interviewing them shows that. (im not saying ts). sure, they can become dentist, engineers etc but if they still lack of competence, thats ur own problem.

furthermore, their policy on foreigner has been changed, HR's giving priority to locals in this recession. in USA alone, many ivy league grads struggling to get jobs.

just my 2cents, if u feel unsure, why dont u go there for 2-3 months and mix with them, so u'll sure what you should do. smile.gif
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post Nov 13 2012, 10:07 AM

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Excuse me, since when TARC got offer Degree?
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post Nov 14 2012, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(Mazdasaga @ Oct 10 2012, 01:51 AM)

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you SHOULD go to Taiwan,

open some road-side stalk,

jual choo chiong fun or hotdog

live there awhile, if dont like there weather,

can move back to China mainland.
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post Nov 14 2012, 01:16 PM

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TS is only 22 - your real life hasn't even begun yet.

Take it from me, I'm in the process of migrating to Oz, got my PR a few years ago, saved up loads in AUD and have a friends place to stay until I get a job - btw, I have 8 years working experience in a Oil & Gas company.

First of all, where are you going to migrate to? Oz and NZ is impossible for you b/c of new SkillSelect program - you have to have highly skilled work experience and be INVITED to apply for visa.

In OZ = no visa, no work.

Does TS have enough money saved up just to keep you running for few months w/o a job?
Does TS has relatives to stay whever you are going?

If mati2 wanna migrate, then look for job in SG then. You still would prob need some working experience.
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post Nov 14 2012, 01:42 PM

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Go for it. I kinda want to as well but I know my limitations so I'm compromising and just making my life here as "foreign" as I can if that makes any sense. Hate your friends, make new ones from DIFFERENT places. Hate your govt, well you won't like it in other countries as well because you're not a citizen of said country. Plus it costs a bomb to migrate.

But, go for it anyway. Work for a while in another country. If you like it, stay smile.gif If you don't then come back with a whole new experience.
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post Nov 14 2012, 03:28 PM

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Well, the first thing you need, is money. Lots of money. Starting a new life in foreign country is not easy. You need rent, food, deposits, this and that.
and the most important thing, a job. And getting one decent one wont be that easy.
But i think the most important thing is that whether that country you are migrating to have a demand on people like you. For example, lots of American moved to Korea to be English teachers because Korea have a large demand of native English speakers.

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post Nov 14 2012, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(Mazdasaga @ Oct 10 2012, 02:51 AM)
Im 22 now and 5 more months to complete my degree in TARC.

Im bored with my social life here, indeed, the government aswell... I feel like put down everything here and leave for another country and have a restart of my life. Making new friends, new environment, and find my ownself and so on.

For those who migrate, i know is not easy to let go your home country, but still u made it right?? I wanna ask about how's life migrating to other country, how ur heart feels towards leaving ur family which will only meet them once a while. How how and how.

Please give me some opinion and advice, i would really cherish every single of you. =)
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I tell you ah, migration is not easy also. Even in other country also kena discrimination.

Like I got one friend who migrated there. In malaysia, he is a big time manager earning a cool RM15k a month. Migrated to australia, they don't even count his malaysian work experience, pay him AUD45k a year. Some more he has to pay for rental AUD3k a month for a studio apartment (1 room) with his wife. At work place, the aussie lady boss scold him like hell. Damn stress. Then only the aussies get promoted but the asian PRs still work in low runk jobs. After 2 years, my friend came back to malaysia to stay for one year because his aussie dream is in shambles. He say after this one year, he will go back and try again.
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post Nov 15 2012, 01:06 AM

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Why u bored of social life here? Social life in Malaysia is one of the most happening.

You go overseas at most OZ, NZ, Canada, UK all these place you go to bed at 9pm one u like?



QUOTE(Mazdasaga @ Oct 10 2012, 01:51 AM)
Im 22 now and 5 more months to complete my degree in TARC.

Im bored with my social life here, indeed, the government aswell... I feel like put down everything here and leave for another country and have a restart of my life. Making new friends, new environment, and find my ownself and so on.

For those who migrate, i know is not easy to let go your home country, but still u made it right?? I wanna ask about how's life migrating to other country, how ur heart feels towards leaving ur family which will only meet them once a while. How how and how.

Please give me some opinion and advice, i would really cherish every single of you. =)
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Added on November 15, 2012, 1:09 amif they can't stand people ignore him blah blah blah in Malaysia, how you think he will fair in overseas? Maybe the harsh treatment he'll get there will make him change? Or maybe destroy him? Fight or Fly.


QUOTE(benjie88 @ Oct 24 2012, 11:21 AM)
If you go other countries, like Europe or other western country this will happen... I miss the food over Malaysia especially rice and the warm weather.... Plus u only 22 years old and still studying in TARC, come on I also kena b4 the problem that you are facing when I was in college... Ppl dislike bla bla bla, ignore them tats all.... Dun giv a shit about them... Try to  work in M'sia then slowly build up ur financial and life... Then only u do wat u wanna do.... Btw I am from TARC also... XD
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Added on November 15, 2012, 1:09 amMost people migrate because they get paid better. All about money. At least for Malaysians.



QUOTE(EarendurFefalas @ Oct 10 2012, 02:23 AM)
Most people move into another country because of social injustice (read it on some graph fact) and second followed by working offshore.

If you hate Malaysia so much maybe can start the 2nd choice. Try to work in a different country (but I dont think this will be easy too >.<)
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QUOTE(Alvin330000421 @ Nov 14 2012, 11:44 PM)
I tell you ah, migration is not easy also. Even in other country also kena discrimination.

Like I got one friend who migrated there. In malaysia, he is a big time manager earning a cool RM15k a month. Migrated to australia, they don't even count his malaysian work experience, pay him AUD45k a year. Some more he has to pay for rental AUD3k a month for a studio apartment (1 room) with his wife. At work place, the aussie lady boss scold him like hell. Damn stress. Then only the aussies get promoted but the asian PRs still work in low runk jobs. After 2 years, my friend came back to malaysia to stay for one year because his aussie dream is in shambles. He say after this one year, he will go back and try again.
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Your friend situation is very common. Almost everyone I know that migrated to Aus and NZ also will go thru something similar. A few of them are lucky and get good jobs with good social circles but not all are able to.

Those who migrate will always mingle around with Malaysians even when they are overseas. Racism is everywhere, cannot avoid it.
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Agreed. Not all people are able to adapt and adjust. However, if there is a wil there is a way. I have met mgirants who came to NZ as rags, living in caravan, but they worked hard and made it and became successful. I even met Malaysian who came here illegally and worked so hard now he is his own boss as a contractor. Have overseas holiday every year to Europe, US etc. His children received good educations.

At least, there are no barriers for you to succeed, no quotas for you to jump. It is a level playing field. It is up to you whether you are determined to make it happened for yourself. Remember the fittest survives, no matter where you are.

The greatest risk in life is not taking one.
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post Nov 16 2012, 05:05 PM

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why TS so quiet ...

i want to see his response.
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post Nov 17 2012, 02:36 AM

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QUOTE(syafiqkhalid @ Nov 16 2012, 05:05 PM)
why TS so quiet ...

i want to see his response.
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Haha, im actually keep an eyehere, really thank you all for giving me advice and tell me some happenings, im really appriciate on all of your response =)
But from a post from papajahats,i think he needs a really change in attitude. Anyway, im still eager to see more and more advice =)

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post Nov 17 2012, 03:43 AM

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Hi TS,

If you are my neighbour son, i would encourage you to try your luck
(at least he parent can now have a room for store)

I had once think the same sfter i grad. Its all a worthless crappy teenage thought for a quick solution over the life u see as boring.

When i was a teenager, i had a habit of abandoning the stuff im doing if i felt bored, too hard, not interesting. I was a lousy crappy student, but thank god i got some brain. I always pass at border line. I got into a depression phase, and have to take some medicne to get out from that #%&%## period.
During at that time i was thinking to quot from my degree. Lucky, i force myself and manage to get the scroll.

I start my first job, after few months, i hop to ahother job. After less than 2years, i felt working under people is boring. I quit and tried to sell insurance.

Then after 2 years, felt bored, then join back being an employee.i got married already before i join this company.

I travel quite afew places. And i would say the age, mariage and seeing other people especially in a country like india, indonesia where people are so desperate to earn a living, it make me really think everytime i have a thought to resign.
I am 5years being employed now.

But what i would sharw to you is the thought i had everytime i am thinking of leaving the thing i had just because i thought it's boring.

Just because i feel stressed with the thing i am going through, i am finding or creating a reason to sort of give myself the strength to explore something new eventhough. I dont care if its a dirty job, shitty job or what so ever, as long i can get out from the trouble i am facing st that time.

Thats really not how a man should face his life. When i lookback, i hve done the same so many time, it doesnt make me any good.
Marriage does make me think more wise before makinga bold move, seeimg other people who are unfortunate does also help and also u hv to involve with this society,it make u feel very much fortunate and love what u have now.

There are few woman who havecertificate to become teacher in indonesia, but they choose to come to malaysia and become a house maid. Theycome from middle income family,but just because they thought malaysia is a better place than theirs, they take that job and migrate.

If u are thinking to migrate, and just grab whatever job u could find, then thats a really really not a wise move. If u want for a job that can pay you well, now is also not a good time. Next year is going to be a tough financial year. Unemployment rate will escalate when the economy growth is going down. U can read the country forecast, u can see where they are heading.

U might end up sleeping on the street unemployed. But if u are willing to take the job with small pay, u might be able toget a job.
Same like in malaysia., those indonesian can hv a jib in construction or plantation or factory bcos the local is not interesred. But u are immigran in their country, nobody know you. U dont haveto feel shame to work as agarbage collector.

If u dare to work as a garbage collector, i would recommend you to work in malaysia. I just love malaysia. Owh the food is just awesome

Thats just an exaggerate example. But yeah,if u feel that you are still youmg anddont mindto waste your next 5 years for this valuable experiene, then why not. It might work for you.
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Take it from me it isn't easy. There will be days when you just drop to your knees, swear at the Almighty and cry your heart out. Some days will get so hard you just want to lay in bed. And there will be many of those days.

I'm not sure you're the type that has commitment. But if you can be the type that sees things through, that takes a step forward regardless of adversity and a very thick skull. You'll do just fine here. Or anywhere else for that matter. Hell, if you have that mean streak that tell you to never give up, you could be dropped into Congo and come out a millionaire in 5 years.

If you want to migrate, be sure you have the attitude.

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