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 Migrate to oversea, Asking those who migrated (opinion)

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munkeyflo
post Oct 10 2012, 09:12 AM

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Have you travel to other countries before? If not, try travelling around the world - backpacker style. Or go for those work and travel programs, before deciding to migrate to another country.

To migrate to another country, you require some financial background, either that or you have to graduate from that country to be able to find a proper job easier. And even if you migrate, most of the time, the Asians will mix around with the Asians only, in fact, Malaysian will mix around with Malaysians only, maybe a few friends from other races but the main group of friends are still Malaysians.

And always remember the grass isn't always greener on the other side.
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post Nov 15 2012, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(Alvin330000421 @ Nov 14 2012, 11:44 PM)
I tell you ah, migration is not easy also. Even in other country also kena discrimination.

Like I got one friend who migrated there. In malaysia, he is a big time manager earning a cool RM15k a month. Migrated to australia, they don't even count his malaysian work experience, pay him AUD45k a year. Some more he has to pay for rental AUD3k a month for a studio apartment (1 room) with his wife. At work place, the aussie lady boss scold him like hell. Damn stress. Then only the aussies get promoted but the asian PRs still work in low runk jobs. After 2 years, my friend came back to malaysia to stay for one year because his aussie dream is in shambles. He say after this one year, he will go back and try again.
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Your friend situation is very common. Almost everyone I know that migrated to Aus and NZ also will go thru something similar. A few of them are lucky and get good jobs with good social circles but not all are able to.

Those who migrate will always mingle around with Malaysians even when they are overseas. Racism is everywhere, cannot avoid it.
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post Nov 18 2012, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(youloke @ Nov 17 2012, 09:54 PM)
well, as for my opinion, if u holds tarc degree, yes most of the places recognize the certificate and it shouldnt be a problem for u getting a job overseas(what matter is how much the job pays u?). For me, im going to UK on January to get my degree for one year..I been there for holiday, even been to china, australia. Main problem im facing, is with food, well u think in overseas u can have rice?or u think u can have the kind of taste u eat here?NO..in UK, people eat fast foods, even if u eat their chinatown rice, u will feel awkwardly different. In China, yes they eat rice, but the taste totally different, it doesnt suit us at all what more to say about Australia?How about weather?Went to UK 9 day holiday my skin dry like hell..yes u can adapt overtime. but malaysia will always be the place that u were born and raise n ur root are here. I hate how to government treat us, but i love my country. THis is where i born.
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Actually, in Australia and NZ - most people can't find a job even with very good education qualification. The most common reason is because they "do not have local experience". Even senior ppl that migrate there have a hard time finding jobs. It may be easier if you have an Australian or NZ qualification but then again, I also know ppl who already has PR there, lived there and graduated there yet can't find jobs there. Believe our fellow member ineser here also experience the same thing.

As for food, I've been traveling to many parts of the world and I can say that food is not really a big problem at all. Almost everywhere you'll find a "China Town" no matter how small it is. Could even find Malaysian Satay in some small town in Europe. If you go to Australia, you see Malaysians almost everywhere and restaurants that sell all sorts of Asian food everywhere. The supermarket overseas do sell rice, of course more expensive but still got. In NZ (and I'm sure many other countries as well), there are huge chain supermarkets run by Chinese that sell all sorts of Chinese and Asian stuff even frozen pandan leaf, durian and so on. You wanna make ba zhang, just go to the shop and they can bring out all the ingredients you need to make it for you. Of course we will always miss Malaysian food but to many, it's not a problem at all. smile.gif

Weather definitely will be changes. Can one adapt to a 4 season country? How bout snow? It's a hassle when the country has snow too.

I disagree with your other points but I agree with your last. I still prefer to live in Malaysia. wink.gif
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post Nov 18 2012, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(larrykiwi @ Nov 18 2012, 03:35 PM)
different people have different experience. The key thing to job search is positive attitude. I have a migrant friend who was a GM level, has no NZ experience, he found job within 2 months. He found his job through networking not through applying jobs in the internet, recruitment agency or newspaper.

Another migrant friend who moved over about 3 months, also a very senior IT personnel, no NZ experience, not NZ graduate, though he hasn't got a job, he had very good interviews with big companies, and he is very positive. I am very confident he is about to get a contract job for at least NZ$75 an hour, the recruitment agency just confirmed verbally last friday.

So you see, whatever you do is about your attitude. No one owes you a living,  you have to have a very positive outlook. If you are negative, this will reflect on your expression and body language when you go for interview.

Migration is a big decision, and it is not for everyone. If you have decided this is the move for you, by hooks or by crooks, you have to make it happened for you.

Learn from the best, ignored the rest. Learn from those who had succeeded and benchmark against them.
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Yes different people will definitely have different experiences. There are those who are lucky and get good jobs like you and your other friends but not everyone is able to get a decent job. I'm not saying that getting a job overseas is impossible, it's just not as easy as some people think it is.

Again, migration is not for everyone and if TS or anyone else in this matter, plans to migrate, they should be aware of the possible situations that they may face but still hope for the best. The last thing one will want to experience is to sell off everything in Malaysia, go overseas, can't find a job for months/years and is not living a comfortable life as they imagine it to be. They should be prepared and make sure that they have enough savings for their expenses if they can't find a job immediately after moving there.

 

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